hello all
i wanted to write a little bit about my experiments w/ the spice over this past month.. but 1st a quick run down of me and why i have come this way..
i gave led and mescaline a go in my youth but never felt quite connected to it. it was fun and not so fun but otherwise not remarkable. and i left it at that..
2 years later i found cannabis and a beautiful relationship flourished. then several years ago i became familiar with the beast that is cluster headaches and i saw that
you could control the pain or stop it complete with psychedelic substances.. still i was held back by (what seems now) and irrational fear of these drugs..
that was until 2 months ago when i could no longer take being controlled by pain..
so here we are now - 1st month i was able to get some mushrooms and it worked like GLORY.. was able to completely rid myself of all the RXs i was on.. (( tooooooo many to list at this point ))
but alas i am in one of the 3 useless states that has a stop on ordering spores. so that was out until i could scrounge some more. then a friend introduced me to the spice..
so the 2nd month of trials revolved around 2grams of the spice. what follows is a ruff account of my trials and errors w/ dosage and pharma/changa mixes...
-- side note : through all of this i have never 'broken through' some wild rides yes .. but a full bt not once....... i am really hoping that my next trials will involve a break through as i see it it is crucial for the healing
process in my headaches -- ( this is not a guess on my part - i have exchanged info w/ other cluster heads who say that while the spice helps it does so much better at breakthrough doses then non )
on to my trials
* vaporizing - ( no harmalas 30mins till baseline , w/ harmalas 2hrs till baseline )
• everything from 10mg through to 80mg in a vaporizing pipe
at first i was thinking that my technique was at fault for no BT but after many different trials i am now relatively sure that for the devices i have my technique is good.. just ?????
i am able to get very very out there but never do i leave..
another odd note is that when moving from 60 - 80mg it seems to plateau the hits i took at 70 and 80mg were just an intense whirlwind of the geometric patterns
not discernible and w/o any of the euphoric feelings that come w/ the 60mg and bellow hits. the times i did that mg i was left with a strong feeling that i missed something
breakdown in dose
10mg - slight euphoria and moderate pain relief
20mg - same euphoria w/ very good pain relief
25mg - this is the point where the color patterns start to appear
30mg - i have seen the tunnel at this point only once and i was unable to get myself down and into the light
35mg - it is only here that any of the auditory effects begin to appear
40/50mg - strong sense of euphoria and the body buzz that begins at the early stages becomes more pronounced and stays with me longer. it is at this stage that the only discernible hallucinations take place (see my 1st post for more on that)
60mg - just crazy colors and odd writing/numbers appearing in the swirls..
70/80 - see above
also i am very free to move around my house during all this - at first i was very reluctant to move incase i broke through but as time progressed i realized i was not going to break through so i would just have fun
exploring my house and oddly enough staring in the mirror watching the drug split me in 2 (( VERY HARD to explain - not scary just really fun to watch ))
* oral w/ mao inhibition
• from 60mg through 120mg dissolved in lemon juice for 3+ hours then added to OJ for taste
1st trial was w/ a white cappi tea i brewed myself w/ 60mg of spice - 0 nada zip nothin , but i know the cappi was working due to an extended smoked spice trip taken 1.5 hours after oral ingestion
2nd - 4th trial was with extracted harmala and THH. dosed 200mg THH and 100mg spice - felt the familiar spice come up but nothing much beyond what i labeled above as a 20mg vaped experience - died out after 20mins
5th - failed mao inhibition
* enhanced leaf
• 2 trials one with 250mg spice separated into 3 smoking sessions and one quick melt one that failed miserably
with the 3 joints rolled w/ spice, mullen and peppermint w/ added harmala
AWESOME _ such great experiences though no breakthroughs.
i did convince my wife to drive me down PCH by the breach for one of the sessions - amazing smoking spice while moving at 50mph will never be forgotten and once the main bit wore off and we entered into a city
it was like we were under the water with all the buildings and roads moving and rolling. I really do recommend this be tried (AS A PASSENGER) was such a fun 2 hours
with all this info i really hope someone out there can help me a bit with the breakthrough part . I'm considering after my first extraction to just load 100mg and see where it takes me.
also for reference i have smoked spice quite a bit inside a sativa joint and for head pain control there is not much better - normally i can not smoke weed when my cluster flares as it makes it worse ( just the cluster not a migraine helps w/ migraine) but with about 60mg of spice placed strategically about 1/4 from top but never closer then 1/4 from the end it is a great pick me up for the day as well.
one last note - i have found i really enjoy smoking spice during the day. i love watching the trees march around as if preparing for war..
just my two cents
hope this helps someone or someone has some good feedback for me
i gotta be doing something wrong, right
s
i wanted to write a little bit about my experiments w/ the spice over this past month.. but 1st a quick run down of me and why i have come this way..
i gave led and mescaline a go in my youth but never felt quite connected to it. it was fun and not so fun but otherwise not remarkable. and i left it at that..
2 years later i found cannabis and a beautiful relationship flourished. then several years ago i became familiar with the beast that is cluster headaches and i saw that
you could control the pain or stop it complete with psychedelic substances.. still i was held back by (what seems now) and irrational fear of these drugs..
that was until 2 months ago when i could no longer take being controlled by pain..
so here we are now - 1st month i was able to get some mushrooms and it worked like GLORY.. was able to completely rid myself of all the RXs i was on.. (( tooooooo many to list at this point ))
but alas i am in one of the 3 useless states that has a stop on ordering spores. so that was out until i could scrounge some more. then a friend introduced me to the spice..
so the 2nd month of trials revolved around 2grams of the spice. what follows is a ruff account of my trials and errors w/ dosage and pharma/changa mixes...
-- side note : through all of this i have never 'broken through' some wild rides yes .. but a full bt not once....... i am really hoping that my next trials will involve a break through as i see it it is crucial for the healing
process in my headaches -- ( this is not a guess on my part - i have exchanged info w/ other cluster heads who say that while the spice helps it does so much better at breakthrough doses then non )
on to my trials
* vaporizing - ( no harmalas 30mins till baseline , w/ harmalas 2hrs till baseline )
• everything from 10mg through to 80mg in a vaporizing pipe
at first i was thinking that my technique was at fault for no BT but after many different trials i am now relatively sure that for the devices i have my technique is good.. just ?????
i am able to get very very out there but never do i leave..
another odd note is that when moving from 60 - 80mg it seems to plateau the hits i took at 70 and 80mg were just an intense whirlwind of the geometric patterns
not discernible and w/o any of the euphoric feelings that come w/ the 60mg and bellow hits. the times i did that mg i was left with a strong feeling that i missed something
breakdown in dose
10mg - slight euphoria and moderate pain relief
20mg - same euphoria w/ very good pain relief
25mg - this is the point where the color patterns start to appear
30mg - i have seen the tunnel at this point only once and i was unable to get myself down and into the light
35mg - it is only here that any of the auditory effects begin to appear
40/50mg - strong sense of euphoria and the body buzz that begins at the early stages becomes more pronounced and stays with me longer. it is at this stage that the only discernible hallucinations take place (see my 1st post for more on that)
60mg - just crazy colors and odd writing/numbers appearing in the swirls..
70/80 - see above
also i am very free to move around my house during all this - at first i was very reluctant to move incase i broke through but as time progressed i realized i was not going to break through so i would just have fun
exploring my house and oddly enough staring in the mirror watching the drug split me in 2 (( VERY HARD to explain - not scary just really fun to watch ))
* oral w/ mao inhibition
• from 60mg through 120mg dissolved in lemon juice for 3+ hours then added to OJ for taste
1st trial was w/ a white cappi tea i brewed myself w/ 60mg of spice - 0 nada zip nothin , but i know the cappi was working due to an extended smoked spice trip taken 1.5 hours after oral ingestion
2nd - 4th trial was with extracted harmala and THH. dosed 200mg THH and 100mg spice - felt the familiar spice come up but nothing much beyond what i labeled above as a 20mg vaped experience - died out after 20mins
5th - failed mao inhibition
* enhanced leaf
• 2 trials one with 250mg spice separated into 3 smoking sessions and one quick melt one that failed miserably
with the 3 joints rolled w/ spice, mullen and peppermint w/ added harmala
AWESOME _ such great experiences though no breakthroughs.
i did convince my wife to drive me down PCH by the breach for one of the sessions - amazing smoking spice while moving at 50mph will never be forgotten and once the main bit wore off and we entered into a city
it was like we were under the water with all the buildings and roads moving and rolling. I really do recommend this be tried (AS A PASSENGER) was such a fun 2 hours
with all this info i really hope someone out there can help me a bit with the breakthrough part . I'm considering after my first extraction to just load 100mg and see where it takes me.
also for reference i have smoked spice quite a bit inside a sativa joint and for head pain control there is not much better - normally i can not smoke weed when my cluster flares as it makes it worse ( just the cluster not a migraine helps w/ migraine) but with about 60mg of spice placed strategically about 1/4 from top but never closer then 1/4 from the end it is a great pick me up for the day as well.
one last note - i have found i really enjoy smoking spice during the day. i love watching the trees march around as if preparing for war..
just my two cents
hope this helps someone or someone has some good feedback for me
i gotta be doing something wrong, right
s
Glad it's helping with those pesky head aches though, I used to suffer from migraines as a child / teen and can fully empathise with how debilitating such things can be.
