A nice glass bong or bubbler is the best smoking device for DMT I have used.
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$150 down the drain
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SmoovPnCali
Reality is a matter of perspective...
I love my GVG
, to me it seems pretty simplistic. I have used several other apparatuses, and the GVG works the best for me. I would recommend it. :thumb_up:
, to me it seems pretty simplistic. I have used several other apparatuses, and the GVG works the best for me. I would recommend it. :thumb_up:
Im not saying that the GVG is a piece of shit. Im not saying it doesnt work, it does work. I have countless beautiful hyperspace voyages using it.
I have evolved and so has my method of administation.
I have my dosing down!
The GVG worked ok for me, but it was a bitch to get the exact same results every single time I wanted to check in.
I have mastered that now using changa and a bong or pipe.
Oh! and one more thing. I dont keep or store DMT in pure powder crystal form anymore, it feels too incriminating/risky. I extract it and I get it into an herbal form ASAP. I live in a place where weed and salvia are legal and vials full of crystaline powder raises suspicion.
I have evolved and so has my method of administation.
I have my dosing down!
The GVG worked ok for me, but it was a bitch to get the exact same results every single time I wanted to check in.
I have mastered that now using changa and a bong or pipe.
Oh! and one more thing. I dont keep or store DMT in pure powder crystal form anymore, it feels too incriminating/risky. I extract it and I get it into an herbal form ASAP. I live in a place where weed and salvia are legal and vials full of crystaline powder raises suspicion.
I think once you perfect using a good bong or bubbler you realize that it is unlikely that any method, even GVG is going to surpass that. I just cant imagine requiring anything else. If the two are even than I will pick the bong personally.
I also really REALLY dislike tiny little pipes and vapes because the vapor or smoke was always way to hot half the time when inhaled. This never happends with water filtration. This was something I hated about both salvia and DMT/changa from pieces as short as the GVG is..so I never bothered to buy a GVG..other similar vape devices I made myself from glass pieces and metal filter pads etc never worked like a good bong does for me. Also I have never heard anyone who perfected the bong method claim that the GVG was better so..
Also its complete rip off. I mean come on..thats a LOT of money for a little chunk of glass and ceramic. I understand some of you are attached to it because it works so well for you, but still I cant imagine why the thing is worth that much money. I can buy a giant glass blown bong that is infinatly more wonderful to have sitting in front of me while blast off for the same price or even less.
I also really REALLY dislike tiny little pipes and vapes because the vapor or smoke was always way to hot half the time when inhaled. This never happends with water filtration. This was something I hated about both salvia and DMT/changa from pieces as short as the GVG is..so I never bothered to buy a GVG..other similar vape devices I made myself from glass pieces and metal filter pads etc never worked like a good bong does for me. Also I have never heard anyone who perfected the bong method claim that the GVG was better so..
Also its complete rip off. I mean come on..thats a LOT of money for a little chunk of glass and ceramic. I understand some of you are attached to it because it works so well for you, but still I cant imagine why the thing is worth that much money. I can buy a giant glass blown bong that is infinatly more wonderful to have sitting in front of me while blast off for the same price or even less.
But to be fair, Jamie, you've never actually used one. So...
My guess (never having actually used it) is that this would be the best of both worlds. I imagine you could flash boil a dose of pretty much any size, get it all in one hit and that the vapor would be cool and airy - with no learning curve or misfiring whatsoever.
Has anyone given this type of rig a go? I imagine it being pretty much the perfect delivery system (for vaporizing).
My guess (never having actually used it) is that this would be the best of both worlds. I imagine you could flash boil a dose of pretty much any size, get it all in one hit and that the vapor would be cool and airy - with no learning curve or misfiring whatsoever.
Has anyone given this type of rig a go? I imagine it being pretty much the perfect delivery system (for vaporizing).
jamie said:
actually the GVG's vapor isn't hot, so thats not a problem at all with the pipe despite its small size (at least IME)
i've used both my GVG countless times for changa, and my 20" bong, and to be honest i can't really choose between them. I love em both...they're both good in their own ways. i love how the gvg i can lay down eyes closed and hit the pipe without barely moving my body while on ayahuasca or with my mind machine on will deep in meditation. its also great for bringing out into nature or to a friends house, whereas a bong 20 inch is a wee bit sketchy! Its also great since after i hit it i don't have to worry about knocking it over and breaking it. i can just leave it right in my lap and pretty much forget about it the moment i'm dont taking the hit
For me it seems the bong is better for doing yoga while taking hits from changa here and there during it, for whatever reason i'm not sure. Its definitely growing on me though and is very reliable. With the GVG despite like 7 screens and a self-made copper mesh screen i still got some leakage after heavy use. This is probably because i often like to take one or two small hits before the big one. I don't have this problem with the bong and its also nice that i can just light the changa instead of having to hold the lighter over the top for a while like with the GVG (you go through lighters fast with it). So right now i'm leaning towards the bong and have been using that
btw if anyone is getting a bong for dmt i recommend an ashcatcher like this, just incase any leaks through (and i dont fill the ashcatcher with water): http://www.mmjcomplianceservices.com/glass_pipes_clear_ashcatcher.jpg
"But to be fair, Jamie, you've never actually used one. So..."
It is still a rip off though. No way I am going to spend over $100 on that tiny hunk of glass. If it was like $50 maybe Id bother to try one..but at the price they want for it I have no desire to even try it concidering I would not even want to go farther than I can with a bong.
Uni a small glass bubbler you can easily use out in nature without raising any more suspicion really than a gvg would.
Art I have never misfired with a bong, and everyone I have spoken with who has experienced both says that it`s easier to get it all to vape fast into one hit quickly with a bong compared to GVG. I have made vape attachments myself for a bong and it worked to some degree..but still I could never get it to work the way some DMT melted into some leaf worked in the bong. If you feather it properly the DMT never burns and just vapes.
I just dont believe the hype about how the GVG is the best way possible to vape DMT. It is just one way.
I can get glass pieces that are infinatly more complex to blow and colorful than the GVG for half the price..so why the huge price increase? I just dont get it..cus there is a tiny chunk of ceramic with it?
It is still a rip off though. No way I am going to spend over $100 on that tiny hunk of glass. If it was like $50 maybe Id bother to try one..but at the price they want for it I have no desire to even try it concidering I would not even want to go farther than I can with a bong.
Uni a small glass bubbler you can easily use out in nature without raising any more suspicion really than a gvg would.
Art I have never misfired with a bong, and everyone I have spoken with who has experienced both says that it`s easier to get it all to vape fast into one hit quickly with a bong compared to GVG. I have made vape attachments myself for a bong and it worked to some degree..but still I could never get it to work the way some DMT melted into some leaf worked in the bong. If you feather it properly the DMT never burns and just vapes.
I just dont believe the hype about how the GVG is the best way possible to vape DMT. It is just one way.
I can get glass pieces that are infinatly more complex to blow and colorful than the GVG for half the price..so why the huge price increase? I just dont get it..cus there is a tiny chunk of ceramic with it?
I think you could approximate the same effect by melting DMT into the ceramic filter of the GVG (the Health Stone Glass vapor stones are the same silicon carbide foam as the GVG filter/diffuser).Uncle Knucles said:
I haven’t tried this yet, but it might be a very effective way to vaporize DMT.
Hasn’t anyone used a Health Stone glass piece for DMT?
The big draw for me there wouldn't be that you are melting the spice into the ceramic, it would be that it's a bong. I find the vapor from the GVG to be relatively smooth myself, but I can always get more massive hits from a bong, and cooling the vapor through water is always effective. Just seems like the best of both worlds to me. One day perhaps I'll plunk down the cash for a scientifical-type comparison.
No offense to you, Jamie, and your clear (yet not actually informed by personal experience) preference. I've had stellar results using both. They've both got their definite upsides.
No offense to you, Jamie, and your clear (yet not actually informed by personal experience) preference. I've had stellar results using both. They've both got their definite upsides.
spaceshuttle
Rising Star
Cant get them into Australia, but i have a classic vapor genie, the wooden on.
Anyone had any luck ordering a glass one to aus?
Anyone had any luck ordering a glass one to aus?
Ice House said:
This is my preferred technique as well. Instead of parsley, I use mint leaves.
I agree with Jamie on the pricing of the GVG though, while a good investment it would seem, that's a pretty hefty chunk of ones budget! Right now, my little $35 bong does the trick nicely!
What I like even more is I have dedicated stems for cannabis and DMT use so as to not take any accidental trips when I'm just wanting to relax with some green herb, because that has happened before and it isn't very pleasant if you're not at least somewhat prepared! :shock:
Congratulations on your new investment! I expect once perfected, you will be taking many trips to the outer reaches!
MooshyPeaches
Rising Star
Definitely a bit of a learning curve, but you won't regret the GVG (unless you drop it) GVG has worked best for me over numerous other tools of administration, if you can't afford 100$ go with a bubbler or something with the sandwich method, but if you can afford the price tag its going to be money well spent!
congrats and happy voyaging pfxtc!
congrats and happy voyaging pfxtc!
You know...for all the endless threads on the GVG and peoples problems with it, huge pictorals with vaping teks, and debates back and forth I cant believe people still think it is the supreme administration tool for dmt. Its a good tool for administering freebase but IMO freebase is no where near as surefire and easy as infused or changa and a 25dollar or homemade bong.
I always suggest to everyone who posts troubles breaking through the simpliest and most sure fire solution. Infuse, load bong, breakthrough. It really is that easy.
I challenege anyone to find a thread about somebody with proper made 1 to 1 changa and a bong that couldnt breakthrough.
I always suggest to everyone who posts troubles breaking through the simpliest and most sure fire solution. Infuse, load bong, breakthrough. It really is that easy.
I challenege anyone to find a thread about somebody with proper made 1 to 1 changa and a bong that couldnt breakthrough.
RayOfLight
Rising Star
I prefer the smooth clean hits delivered through the GVG to smoking combusted material in any kind of pipe. I think you made the right choice.
olympus mon said:
I agree with oly on this; if in the unlikely circumstances that people struggle with this method, dont forget that the ratio of DMT to leaf doesnt have to be 1 to 1. Simply make your infused leaf (or changa) in a 2 (or more) to 1 ratio.Using a scale with a 'top-heavy' prep such as this would of course be very wise. :shock:
It also helps to have a small bong as the 'dead space' will be lessened, giving a very direct delivery.
DMT freebase aside, the GVG is an excellent tool for some other substances which need vaporising (Salvia being an exception due to the very high temp the Salvinorin A needs) so it remains a handy (but not cheap) implement to have at ones disposal.
