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2g of syrian rue enough? how to do it?

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ok so SWIM was thinking of experimenting tomorrow on taking Syrian Rue with dmt crystals.. Now, the problem is, a friend gave the rue, which SWIM weighted to be only 2g.. Will it be sufficient to inhibit the MAO? or is it too little? Will it be wasting the crystals? SWIM has enough crystals, if it made a difference it wouldnt be a problem to take, say, 300mg or smt..

But since SWIM only has this rue dose, I guess he should take the crystals all at once and not wait for it to hit and then take more if it was not enough DMT, right? because being only small MAOI dose, then I guess SWIM cant afford waiting for boosting up with more DMT after since probably the MAOI will loose the effect faster..

so what do you guys think? and how should SWIM proceed to do this, if he does go ahead? Boiling rue for half an hour with some lemon acidified water, save the water, do 2 more times, discard solids and drink liquid? and then 40 mins later take the crystals all at once? how much of crystals ? (SWIM is not affraid of strong trip, and weights 70 kgs)

thanks!
 
endlessness said:
ok so SWIM was thinking of experimenting tomorrow on taking Syrian Rue with dmt crystals.. Now, the problem is, a friend gave the rue, which SWIM weighted to be only 2g.. Will it be sufficient to inhibit the MAO? or is it too little? Will it be wasting the crystals? SWIM has enough crystals, if it made a difference it wouldnt be a problem to take, say, 300mg or smt..

But since SWIM only has this rue dose, I guess he should take the crystals all at once and not wait for it to hit and then take more if it was not enough DMT, right? because being only small MAOI dose, then I guess SWIM cant afford waiting for boosting up with more DMT after since probably the MAOI will loose the effect faster..

so what do you guys think? and how should SWIM proceed to do this, if he does go ahead? Boiling rue for half an hour with some lemon acidified water, save the water, do 2 more times, discard solids and drink liquid? and then 40 mins later take the crystals all at once? how much of crystals ? (SWIM is not affraid of strong trip, and weights 70 kgs)

thanks!
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That might not be enough. I would spend the $4 and purchase an ounce or so from one of hundreds of vendors. I highly suggest making an extract via salt precipitation (It's really simple, even for the neophyte kitchen chemist like myself).

If you were to try the 2g I would suggest smoking the spice. I really don't think it will be sufficient for oral DMT consumption.
 
I did make several pharmahuasca journeys with only 1.5g of rue. It works fine, it only last an hour or two thats it. I think that for beginners who are afraid for a long lasting journey it's a perfect start.

So less rue is less time. Of course there will be a dosage at which point the MAOI aren't working anymore but with 1.5g of rue at 80kg of bodyweight it just works fine.
 
acolon_5 said:
That might not be enough. I would spend the $4 and purchase an ounce or so from one of hundreds of vendors. I highly suggest making an extract via salt precipitation (It's really simple, even for the neophyte kitchen chemist like myself).

If you were to try the 2g I would suggest smoking the spice. I really don't think it will be sufficient for oral DMT consumption.
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yeah SWIM is definitely gonna buy some more Rue soon.. The thing is, not today, and today is actually a perfect opportunity for taking it (alone in the house and all)..

SWIM has enough spice not to have to worry about it being ´wasted´..

As for your suggestion of extracting the Rue, its definitely something to be done, but I think not with just these 2gs.. Once SWIM gets some more of it, then SWIM will try making the extract via salt precip because it does seem very interesting (and once SWIM decides so, might be asking you a few questions hehe)

Your idea of smoking spice, thats not a bad idea, but SWIM still wants to finally try pharmahuasca, to see if it has same ´spiritual´ value as normal aya.. But, in the case you are right and it is too little Rue, SWIM will leave prepared a dose of DMT in the bong, if desire for it arises :)

The Traveler said:
I did make several pharmahuasca journeys with only 1.5g of rue. It works fine, it only last an hour or two thats it. I think that for beginners who are afraid for a long lasting journey it's a perfect start.

So less rue is less time. Of course there will be a dosage at which point the MAOI aren't working anymore but with 1.5g of rue at 80kg of bodyweight it just works fine.
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so 2g should be enough for a couple of hours then, thanks!


I will post back tomorrow how it went :)
 
Good luck, I'm interested in hearing your report on it.

2g of rue won't do it for me....but YMMV as with any and pretty much all substances. Feel free to ask away about the extraction. I've done it a handful of times without many problems. I've never gotten crystals, but I'm not that picky, just want something that works.

As for the same spirituality as Aya...I've NEVER found Rue to be as healing or deep as Caapi. Rue is one heck of a natural MAOI though. To me it is more playful and in-your-face...like you were dropped off in hyperspace without a guide...or like your guide brought you there and left. With Caapi it really feels like there is someone there showing you what it is all about....(can you tell I'm partial).

That being said, Rue+spice is more spiritual than smoked spice.
 
It's quite easy to take too much rue and an overdose is nasty. No scales, a couple of spliffs and not wanting to underdo it gave me one with an aya brew, didn't even make it to drinking the aya and was throwing up yellow bile about every ten mins for about 4 hours. After that time I was able to make it in from my garden to my sofa. About another 4 hours later I moved from my sofa to my bed. The next day I felt like I had flu. I did have a revelation about the nature of time though, so I guess it was worth it! Hmm...

I find 3.5g the perfect amount.
 
2g of rue is plenty.also i find the best mothode to be=blend the rue in a blender to a fine powder put in a pot with a splash of apple cider vinegar or white wine vinegar and about 750ml water and reduce to a drinkable amount.so simple yet so effective.
 
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