NotTwo
Rising Star
A few thoughts on combining DMT and 5-MeO-DMT with meditation ...
I've smoked DMT for around two years now and have experimented with 5-MeO for the last four or five months. I basically only use these two substances as a tool to try to understand non dualism. (Understand is the wrong verb here and non dualism is just another way of saying that which is so do excuse my way of expressing that.)
I generally follow up DMT with an hour's meditation. I actually find DMT very supportive for meditation, especially as I don't follow a particular practise, I just sit in being for want of a better way to put it. DMT nearly always produces some degree of loss of self for me. As I come out of the experience I can usually say "there is no one here, there is no person" and it resonates as fully true and that will start the meditation.
My experiences with 5-MeO have been distinctly different. With a release dose - or even sub-release - there is simply the apprehending of the ground of being well beyond any personalization and beyond intellect. As one exits there may be a couple of minutes of partial understanding of the truth but after that one is almost dumped back into being a person. It's taken me a lot of sessions to start to understand how to use that post session phase. 5-MeO offers you none of the support that DMT does and it takes considerable concentration and will to follow through with something valuable in meditation.
What I'm finding now is the most useful way to use 5-MeO in conjunction with meditation is to take distinctly less that a release dose, usually around 6 or 7 mg, and then go straight into sitting. The first few minutes will be fairly startling but if you're ready to take it on from there with silent observation of everything that arises, the meditation can be extremely profound and insightful. The experience can be remarkably similar to a full release dose. You may need a top up after 30 minutes, or smoking a small amount of harmalas 20 minutes before will extend it to full hour. (I know there are reports suggesting negative effects with this combination but I've found none whatsoever when combining 15 mg of harmala with 7 mg of 5-MeO!)
Just my experiences so far. I'm still very much a novice with these experiments.
I've smoked DMT for around two years now and have experimented with 5-MeO for the last four or five months. I basically only use these two substances as a tool to try to understand non dualism. (Understand is the wrong verb here and non dualism is just another way of saying that which is so do excuse my way of expressing that.)
I generally follow up DMT with an hour's meditation. I actually find DMT very supportive for meditation, especially as I don't follow a particular practise, I just sit in being for want of a better way to put it. DMT nearly always produces some degree of loss of self for me. As I come out of the experience I can usually say "there is no one here, there is no person" and it resonates as fully true and that will start the meditation.
My experiences with 5-MeO have been distinctly different. With a release dose - or even sub-release - there is simply the apprehending of the ground of being well beyond any personalization and beyond intellect. As one exits there may be a couple of minutes of partial understanding of the truth but after that one is almost dumped back into being a person. It's taken me a lot of sessions to start to understand how to use that post session phase. 5-MeO offers you none of the support that DMT does and it takes considerable concentration and will to follow through with something valuable in meditation.
What I'm finding now is the most useful way to use 5-MeO in conjunction with meditation is to take distinctly less that a release dose, usually around 6 or 7 mg, and then go straight into sitting. The first few minutes will be fairly startling but if you're ready to take it on from there with silent observation of everything that arises, the meditation can be extremely profound and insightful. The experience can be remarkably similar to a full release dose. You may need a top up after 30 minutes, or smoking a small amount of harmalas 20 minutes before will extend it to full hour. (I know there are reports suggesting negative effects with this combination but I've found none whatsoever when combining 15 mg of harmala with 7 mg of 5-MeO!)
Just my experiences so far. I'm still very much a novice with these experiments.