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a brush with the divine, then eternal torment

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General_Knowledge

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Hi Guys,

So i recently had an amazing experience on LSD in December 2015 which led me to both profound insight as well as a healthy rush of fear.

Edited TLDR version of why i am here...

Having this experience has made me realise there is so much more to life and consciousness that i was blind too before, im not a Buddhist but the concept of rebirth and meditation and enlightenment are now subjects i want to seriously look into as well as things such as lucid dreaming, astral projection, chakras, the third eye, different types energy and spirituality as well as different realms of assistance are all real possibilities for me now and i would very much like to be a part of a community that also believes in these similar topics.

A little back story and basically my trip report...

Approximately 6 months prior to this experience i began testing the waters with LSD and meditation in order to better understand myself and improve my creativity, for the purpose of this essay i will focus primarily on the LSD side of things...

Began my journey in gradual increments, slowly working my way up from 1 tab (150mcg) per fortnight/month for about 2 months, then on that rotating fortnightly/monthly cycle depending on what life events were occuring at the time, i worked my way up from 150, 300, 450, 600mcg.

The reason i kept on climbing up this dose range until 600mcg was due to the fact i wasn't experiencing hallucinations of any kind, OEV or CEV, just intense physical feelings and the occasional spurt of colour/s. This was until around November and early December when i was becoming more serious with my meditating both in life and during the days i would set aside to trip where i would experience what i would later discover to be the infamous "chrysanthemum" that is often mentioned during DMT experiences. i would notice this beautiful spinning red orb that seems to have a glowing yellow light emanating from within that would produce mild feelings of euphoria when i tried to "pierce" inside through mental focus.

Come late Decemember im at home alone unfortunately but nevertheless with a good set and setting, i injest 600mcg and put on some pink floyd and wait to see what happens, its at this point i have my first trip. i feel this rushing sensation coming towards me and i immediately get lifted upwards and i hear a voice telling me that i have to let go, which i manage to do and im catapulted first from my body, then from the earth, then into the galaxy, then i feel all form fall away in what i might describe as ego death? at this point i am presented with the chrysanthemum and am able to pierce it straight away, once inside there is a display of the most most beautiful, otherworldly, other dimension explosion of light colour and motion that is absolutely breathtaking. i spend some time around this space as the colours morph and change and seem to defy belief.

its at this stage when i hear the voice again tell me to let go even further which takes a little bit of focus but i manage, at which point the chrysanthemum seems to "peel away?" into what i believe its called "the dome" in which i see this place that feels distinctly closed in yet safe and secure, i see a beautiful green field with a blue sky above and a kind of "city" towards the left hand side, the colors of the green and blue have this artificially beautiful hue about them that seems impossible to reproduce in the material reality as we know it. i then see the Buddha appear as two downward bursts of pure white light and i get the feeling this is some kind of special place, like the garden of eden, or some kind of higher plane of existence.

As this feeling arises a thought pops up that this MUST be what one sees at the point of death, it felt like the most glorious thing one will ever see while connected to the material plane. Its at this point that i wonder who made all this and for a split second i transcend this magical place and am staring directly at what i immediately thought must be god, the collective unconscious, the creator, whatever name you want to give it, and i felt like a part of this wonderful thing yet somehow separate, like a piece separated from the whole. At this point im taken back to the dome area and moved further along "inside" where im see this kind of room and as i enter i hear a loud cheering sound and i see both familiar and unfamiliar faces and it feels like each one of them is personally welcoming me and congratulating me for making it this far. i then progress further and see the DNA strand clear as day, all in blue but with one tiny dot in red (meaning unknown!?).

The journey starts to wind down at this point and again the voice returns and we have a small exchange of dialogue and the summed up message i receive is that life on the material plane is here for us all to enjoy and to experience in its fullest, im then returned to my body and a kind of "rift" closes in the sky (back to normal vision now) and i see this waving goodbye and then the most intense burst of love and acceptance i have EVER felt, like a feeling one oneness with the universe unlike anything i have ever felt before.

and this is where things turn ugly.....

wanting more of what i just experienced, i try to mentally focus on the images i saw and return to that place and this is where i feel my "soul" get captured and grabbed by something dark and evil, however unlike previously i still feel distinctly "within" my physical body, however i have absolutely no control at all, like im in the passenger seat on a car travelling down the highway to hell...i see this glowing blueish light with yellow and red backgrounds and i immediately get the feeling "you've done it this time, fucked up real good" as this thing just torments me with all these feelings on control and punishment and hatred and anger and so forth. i then see reality crumble all around me and i see this red tunnel that feels like it has the eternity of previous souls just waiting there to see me go through this same experience they have all gone through, it all feels like a sick and twisted game that has no end.

There is much more to it, but i feel like i've covered the main points and its probably time i got to the introductory side of things as opposed to the trip report.

Looking back at it all its without a doubt the most wonderful yet terrifying thing i have ever experienced but as time has passed and ive had time to integrate these feelings ive identified the thoughts behind the bad side of the trip and am working through those parts of myself in the hopes of being able to experience such magic again, which brings me to these forums.


Thanks for reading and sorry for the terrible grammar, lots of feelings rushing to the surface having finally had the chance to share my experience

Much love
 
Hi General Knowledge,

I have never partaken of LSD, but I must say some elements you describe are extremely familiar to me from my last few visits to hyperspace:

General_Knowledge said:
... i then progress further and see the DNA strand clear as day, all in blue but with one tiny dot in red (meaning unknown!?).

Of late, my time in the most deep parts has been in a very blue place with twisting strands - I feel stupid because I only just realised when trying to describe them in more depth that they were very much like flattened double helix's which from a lot of related art I think are not uncommon.

General_Knowledge said:
...wanting more of what i just experienced, i try to mentally focus on the images i saw and return to that place and this is where i feel my "soul" get captured and grabbed by something dark and evil, however unlike previously i still feel distinctly "within" my physical body, however i have absolutely no control at all, like im in the passenger seat on a car travelling down the highway to hell...

My last 3 exits have had VERY similar imagery. I kind of want to say hell like, but I have no fear for my safety in hyperspace - although the first time I saw this I thought I had angered something, or that something was trying really hard to scare me. So I faced it down, looked it in the eyes and opened up all of my curiosity.

Now curiosity I have realised is probably quite aggressive in hyperspace. When you get curious about something you really drill into it. I am sure when entities are curious about us it is often interpreted as aggression/ brain surgery. But anyway, the first time it left me feeling a bit off. The next time I saw it, it was because I was looking for the creator of the experience I had just had, and pulled it out of the edge of the "dome". I had a real good look and tried to pin down what it was.

Having googled a lot of images looking for the same feel the closest images I found turned out to be these. Mahakala, who although a wrathful entity, is an extremely positive and useful figure. Intended to keep us on track and protect the teachings. Interestingly often also thought to be synonymous to Siva, with its feminine aspect in Mahakali. Just wondered if any of this feels familiar.

For others, are there any good threads on working with entities? I seem to be going through some lessons (from them) on ettiquette (mainly on how to be interactive without being too aggressive) and wondered if this is a subject any of you more researched members may already know exists here.
 
hey upwaysidedown

thanks for the positive reply,

thats spot on what it feels like, my initial impression was fear however after a lenghy period of integration (continuous) ive began to lock down the reasons behind why these feelings arose.

its now a process of overcoming the fear and looking within myself at the negative aspects i have been ignoring and work on the source of those feelings.
 
I wish I had some useful advice for dealing with fear. I used to be terrified as a kid, scared of groups of older kids, literally petrified at night (particularly after reading whitley Strieber's Communion).

Over time it feels like I just burnt out all my fear. Especially after facing the alienness of DMT - my fear of the unknown just seemed so silly. Now I worry that I am perhaps so emotionally aloof as to not let myself feel it.

Or perhaps I have just not been threatened by such things that I see, and time will tell if one of these things will scare me.

I had a number of "lessons" where I was shown images of decay and misshapen things. This after a number of lessons showing purity of form and beauty. At first I wondered if it could be some sign of displeasure, had I done something wrong? But it soon made sense through synchronicity that I was being shown that all of creation is divine, not just the pretty trees, flowers and sacred geometry - but everything: even that discarded garbage bag with its rotting contents spilled on a dirty street.

How could I then see anything as being "wrong", "unnatural" or scary - they are just expressions of underlying truths, part of the available range of experience and expression. What colours could we have in our life if there was only one shade of perfect.

How can you feel and appreciate absolute love and safety if you do not feel fear and despair. So which one of us has the issue? Perhaps I should just throw myself to the storm of experiences and allow myself to be tossed around into fear and also to ecstasy rather than standing still against the storm in a place of inner calm, just an observer. Not sure that I now know how.
 
My fear arises from the concept of the soul, i felt so powerless under the "grip" of this dark entity, it just left me with such an overwhelming sense of powerlessness in the spiritual realm.

The approach im taking now is to face fear head on, both through the obtaining of new experience and whatever learning about the world/universe we leave in; to observe the true law of nature or the cosmic law that seems to govern life.

Also through the process of critical thinking, i believe my fear is both physical and mental of which the physical i have come to terms with the same cannot be said for the mental. Pushing myself towards new and difficult methods of thinking with the goal of remaining equanimous and using sound judgement to work through any situations of fear that arise, as opposed to being overwhelmed and plunged further into fear.

Living a life of balance seems to be important, exploring all methods of overcoming fear and appreciating the beauty within and narrowing down the methods based on directly observed benefits.
 
Hey GK, thanks for sharing your experience :)

LSD is incredible isn't it? Your description was thoroughly fascinating and it gave me chills, trying to remember the feelings you describe. I think each individuals experience of meeting god face to face is similar in the fact that they all resemble a universal oneness. Peoples' perception of god can be portrayed with limitless symbols and archetypes but when you experience it there are no words to describe it. We can try by calling it clear or white light, the Void, Krsna, Allah, God or any infinite number and combination of words and mathematical language known on this earth yet we still cannot describe what "it" is. You have to meet it, feel it, experience it; then you just know that it runs through everything and it doesn't matter what you call it :)

I believe that every entity you come into contact with (or person, animal, being, moment in life that occurs) was placed there, exactly in that moment, for you to learn something. Whether it is blissful or harrowing, dark or light, seemingly significant or not, inexplicable or flat out strange, it is there because you have placed it there for yourself. Synchronicity to me means a higher, more evolved version of myself (or my spirit), chose every instant in this life for me to learn an ultimate lesson; as well as share this eternal love within myself with others. We are meant to enjoy this physical life, and to help others enjoy it. The spirits are hungry for a physical body because it is such a gift to be a human being. Bodies are in high demand! I think entities are just as interested in us as we are in them.

I too have been confronting fear not only in altered states of consciousness but in everyday life and decision making. Lately I have been affirming to myself that fear wants you to fail. You feel fear creep in and your mind starts racing about "why you shouldn't do this" or "is it going to work" or "is it good enough". In reality you are fully capable of doing whatever it is you are trying to do but your ego tries to hold you back. I often times experience this right before a changa ceremony and then feel extreme relief after I plunge in. As in ceremony, so in life when I am trying to make an important decision or i have a nerve-racking meeting to attend. The fear builds up beforehand and then as soon as I plunge in it dissipates. Fear appears strong but it is in fact weak, and oftentimes holds reward and progress behind it. Make fear your friend.

upwaysidedown:

Having googled a lot of images looking for the same feel the closest images I found turned out to be these. Mahakala, who although a wrathful entity, is an extremely positive and useful figure. Intended to keep us on track and protect the teachings. Interestingly often also thought to be synonymous to Siva, with its feminine aspect in Mahakali. Just wondered if any of this feels familiar.

Thankyou for posting this. I have come across Siva a few times in hyperspace but before I have also (unknowingly until now) encountered Mahakala. He came to me in a vaped DMT experience during a transitional period in my life where I knew I should be changing my ways but I continued down a destructive path. At the time I was terrified as he came very close to my face and poked me with his claws all over my chest and insidiously smiled until he was quantum-close to me. Upon reflection I know now that he was there to help me destroy my old patterns and begin anew, as does Siva's appearance when he comes.

I believe that when you are visited by entities, spirits, aliens, fairies, angels, or demons they are in fact a representation of the all encompassing "god" -- i.e. you and everyone us being One -- that is being shown to you for an exact purpose at that exact moment in time, that you will learn from it and progress in your life toward true happiness and love.

Sorry if I sound a little out there :roll: Your post inspired me today. Welcome to the Nexus, happy and safe travels friend :d

Peace!
-SM
 
Hi SM,

thanks for the reply!

I've definately seen the benefit of fear through these last months of intense integration, which has led me to the jungles of Peru in search of mother Ayahauasca to the complete silence of a 10 day mediation course.

Both have taught me a range of very important lessons, one of which is that fear is present within us and will always be there within us, however it is up to us to look inside and discover that fear is not the only force lying within.

What i have finally learnt is that if you recognise that fear is apart of you and not something to shy away from then you loose that aversion and gain the ability to look deeper within yourself. This is where love comes in, once you manage to look past the vice like grip that fear claims to have upon you it becomes clear that love is the governing force of being and when you directly see and feel that deep, loving side of you then the fear just melts away.

Furthermore i believe that fear is related to, if not the ego itself, the part of us that clings to indivduality and importance and being the centre of everything in this field of experience. This self-image gets quickly blown away the more one experiences love and the universality of love and this is an important step to overcome when humanity progresses towards greater peace and happiness.

Apologies for the hippy rant at the end, love keeps shining through :d
 
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