A Call for Nexians with Perfect Pitch

[Global]

We often lament about not being able to take back anything concrete from hyperspace. The visuals are too complex for most anyone to accurately recreate, the emotions cannot be shared, and hyperspace seems to be pretty strict about its "no recording policy." For the majority of us, the audio would tend to fall in this category too, but not necessarily so.

One of the elements of the DMT experience that I experience, and that seems to be somewhat commonplace amongst travelers here is the perception of the 8-16 bit pitches. Some describe them as the "Nintendo" sounds. To me it literally sounds like 8 bit pitches in a MIDI step-sequencer. Rhythm can be ambiguous and overlapping in hyperspace, but I have experienced the linear pitches in running 32nd notes or something of the like on numerous occasions. In a sense, pitch is one of the few pieces of objective information that is perceivable. It brings me much regret and frustration that I am unable myself to transcribe a sequence because I do not have perfect pitch. I can pick isolated pitches out of the air with relative ease (i.e. if I hear an F# by itself, I am likely to recognize it as F#, but if it was B-F#-C-Eb....I would be unlikely to catch the F#). Fumbling about an instrument while those sequences are running, so I can see how the notes line up, as I would when transcribing in real life, would most likely just derail the experience instantly.

For this reason, I am making a call for Nexians with perfect pitch to come forth, and let yourselves be known here in this thread. I wish to put you on a mission to aurally decode a pitch sequence heard in hyperspace. Afterward, we can put those pitches in an actual step-sequencer and see how they match up. Just imagine the possibilities of having an accurate sequence at our disposal. It would be curious if you for example left the sequence running as you entered hyperspace...would you end up back in the same location where you had first heard the sequence? Could it be a way of predictably conjuring certain scenes? It's all very intriguing to me. Of course I would want nothing better than to be able to play back the sequences that I myself hear personally, but that is shaping up to be an impossible task for me, and as such, I seek to recruit other more capable Nexians. As a final remark, I would like to encourage honesty. If your ear is not up to the challenge, then please avoid spreading misinformation. I cannot stress enough that this is one of the few pieces of raw data that we can extract from hyperspace. If you've got the ear, I want to hear from you! ᕕ(⌐■_■)ᕗ ♪♬

[edit]: Eight Step Sequencer Example

 

[Felnik]

Good relative pitch is something you can improve with practice.

Practice singing a basic scale and learn to recognize intervals.
Work from the root of the scale. sing root to major second root to major 3rd root to perfect fourth continue to octave. Eventually adding the odd ones for example minor 3rd
Minor 2nd diminished 5th ( b5) etc.

You'd be surprised what you'll be able to hear with practice.

It's been a long time since I've had a trip myself with musical pitches but I remember what your describing.

 

[Psybin]

Good relative pitch is something you can improve with practice.

Practice singing a basic scale and learn to recognize intervals.
Work from the root of the scale. sing root to major second root to major 3rd root to perfect fourth continue to octave. Eventually adding the odd ones for example minor 3rd
Minor 2nd diminished 5th ( b5) etc.

You'd be surprised what you'll be able to hear with practice.

It's been a long time since I've had a trip myself with musical pitches but I remember what your describing.

Yes, but relative pitch means nothing if you have no absolute pitch as a reference. I think the point of the OP was that someone with perfect pitch (which is actually something you are born with) could observe and record the absolute pitches heard in their trip.

 

[Felnik]

I know what perfect pitch is and I also know that if you can hear and recognize intervals the key is irrelevant . It's very possible to assemble a series of pitches without perfect pitch . I clearly understand what op is suggesting.

 

[Global]

I continue to seek to refine my relative pitch every day, but alas, it would be in the remote future that I would be up to the task to bring back the sequences myself. I have no doubt that someone with great relative pitch could do what I am asking, but I suppose I called for those with perfect pitch because the task should be relatively effortless on their part, and their accuracy and judgment would be more trustworthy when ensuring that the information is being properly transcribed. Perhaps their ear may note a distinguished tuning system that one with relative pitch could be unsure of if the intervals are virtually the same (i.e. A-440 tuning vs. A-442). With relative pitch, how do you check your results for sure? Do you interrupt the sequence attempting to play it on an instrument? Do you rely on your memory? You trust your memory as you are coming out of a DMT vision?

 

[TGO]

I know what perfect pitch is and I also know that if you can hear and recognize intervals the key is irrelevant.

Lately, I have been experimenting with playing my favorite tunes in as many keys as possible (it is a great musical exercise). That being said, if you were able to distinguish what the intervals were in the hyperspace sequence/pitches you could transcribe it into any and all of the musical keys.

If playing the original "hyper-sequence" would, in theory, bring you back to that same slice of hyperspace what would happen if you took the same sequence and transcribed it to every key?

My relative pitch is decent but nowhere near perfect so pulling notes out of hyperspace and back into this reality for accurate transcribing is proving to be difficult for me as well. Interrupting the sequence may be necessary. Perhaps trying to sing along with the sequence would help it adhere to our memory as we drift out of hyperspace and back into our physical bodies.

This is very interesting, Global! I plan to experiment with this more in the not-so-distant future.

 

[Global]

If playing the original "hyper-sequence" would, in theory, bring you back to that same slice of hyperspace what would happen if you took the same sequence and transcribed it to every key?

That would be the next step after seeing how hyperspace reacts to the original sequence. My guess is that it would be altered somehow. I base this guess off of an experience where I played guitar chords while immersed in hyperspace. Different chords and different keys would trigger the transformation to certain sets of geometries. To this effect, I believe that establishing the original key is relevant.

My relative pitch is decent but nowhere near perfect so pulling notes out of hyperspace and back into this reality for accurate transcribing is proving to be difficult for me as well. Interrupting the sequence may be necessary. Perhaps trying to sing along with the sequence would help it adhere to our memory as we drift out of hyperspace and back into our physical bodies.

The sequences are too fast to be singable (for me anyway). Perhaps with a tape recorder, picking out pitches out of sequence may aid in the matter. I don't know.

 

[Felnik]

Yes you could try recording a session and try to sing the pitches your hearing . Check it out after. There are things you can glean from a given pitch cycle even if you can't get every single note initially . Things like what mode is in?
Is it minor or major ?
Is it a 12 tone row ?
Is it repeating itself or is it an every changing
Series of tones with no repeat?
I'd there form , different sections ?
What's super strange to me considering we are theoretically organic beings is why does the music sound electronic in nature?

 

[Global]

All of this could be tried, and everyone should be free to experiment how they like, but for the purpose of this thread, I want to avoid a debate in how it is feasible to do this task with relative pitch, and leave the thread open as an area for those Nexians with perfect pitch to come forward (and eventually share their results).

 

[Global]

I'm not certain that the temperament is the same, though I leave that judgment to someone with perfect pitch to make. If it is in an odd temperament, then approximations can be made. At least to the extent that I perceive the pitches, it sounds like they are coming in my ears, and they move intervallically. This might be just the way that I perceive the sounds, but in my most recent DMT experience, my encounter with an entity confirmed that I don't perceive the sounds omnidirectionally, as the closer it moved to me, the greater the volume was. It was not approaching me head on, and I could hear it more in my left ear than my right. I am positive that the concept of pitch is intrinsically tied to the sounds I perceive.

 

[Hiyo Quicksilver]

what makes one certain the sounds perceived are derived from displacement defined by pitch ranges?
if the dmt microtonality is omnidirectional then it's not your ears sensing the sound but rather an infrasonic and ultrasonic 'internal' standing wave, making pitch somewhat irrelevant because the interference pattern heard would never be repeatably identical but rather a function of current amplitude. this also makes temperament difficult to notate.

From a more intuitive standpoint, this is true as well... I had perfect pitch when I was younger, and still have a sharp enough sense of pitch that I don't need to use tuners. "perfect pitch" is a multidisciplinary endeavor that usually relies on talent. The subjective nature of sound makes certain that there are some intimacies of the process that can't really be taught, but it can be learned...
More common is perfect intonation, which is the ability to tune perfectly to the nearest desired note of a chromatic scale (but not necessarily the ability to attain any note of that scale by ear). This is much more common among all musicians and especially guitarists, oboe/bassoonists, violinists and trombone players... Perfect pitch is rather rare and is not really any more helpful than good intonation.
Either ability is only marginally useful in such an application; carrier waves don't obey the rules of western music, and stay neatly within the lines of the chromatic scale tuned to 440 Hz.

What you're looking for is a savant; Somebody who can accurately replicate an exact frequency or multiple frequencies, possibly in oscillation, through all of the sensory distortion that often accompanies the carrier wave, remember the pitch perfectly or take physical note of it while tripping, then compare his replicated tone to his initial estimate while under the influence, and make sure they all match up... Even then, I don't think it would really be fully objective at that point, do you?

If you can find somebody who can stay that present-minded through such bizarre circumstances, I imagine the possibilities are endless.

 

[Global]

Perhaps it is unwise to discriminate, and I should ask for all of those who have a strong sense of pitch. You say I am looking for a savant, but I don't think this is the case. I have a number of musician friends who I think would otherwise be up for the task were it not for the case that they won't smoke DMT

 

[Hiyo Quicksilver]

I have a number of musician friends who I think would otherwise be up for the task were it not for the case that they won't smoke DMT

Some "friends". Pshhh..

(I jest)

Getting high and grooving down may, per usual, be the best option! \m/>.<\m/