A new discovery

[Ice House]

I was sitting back in my recliner yesterday enjoying the companionship of a most beautiful entity. She was very beautiful, Bright neon orange with very detailed circuitry that lined her entier body, like grid lines that made very intricate paterns all over her. She was soooo friendly and when she moved her body changed and morphed.

Enough of the description because it doesnt really matter so much how she was made and how she looked. We have all seen these entieis before.

As I was reclined and relaxing eyes closed, for what ever reason I squinted or closed my eyes really hard. BAM! the color scheme changed immediately from bright orange to purple. It suprised me. when I relaxed my face the color whent back to bright orange. I started experimenting and I would purse my lips or crincle my nose smile really big bite down and flex my jaww. What I discovered is that if I contorted my face and held it colors and textures would change. I learned that I just needed to create tension with my facial muscles and the entire color scheme would change instantly, when I would relax those facial muscles the original colors or patterns would change back. The one movement that changed things the most was attempting to wiggle my ears, I would get dark greens and deep dark blues. Bearing down on your diafragm causes this to happen also.

Has anyone else experienced this? It was wonderful.

 

[Kittenkat]

I get this quite often, ever since I started using changa, but had not really connected it until I read this. I have massive yawning bouts after about 5 mins or so, which also cause my eyes to tear up so badly its almost as if I'm crying. I end up rubbing my eyes for another 5 mins trying to get the distracting tears away. For me though when I'm yawning, squeezing my eyes and opening my mouth wide the colors get incredibly bright and warm with reds, oranges, and yellows. When I rub them they tend to go to cooler colors, blues and purples.

I have not experimented creating tension with other parts of my face/body though. Sounds interesting, I just might play around with it in the near future. ^_^

 

[Ice House]

I have vaped DMT and smoked changa several times a day for the last couple of days. I am just amazed at how well I can change, not just the colors of my experience but I can also change or break through multiple layers of the experience.

I stumbled upon this purely by accident and the experience of controlling my journey through creating facial tension is absoluttely amazing. I am dumbfounded!

For me it puts into question what the DMT experience is all about and how it really works. I am not at the mercy of the molecule. I have an enormous ammount of control over the colors and textures and the entities for that matter.

I have discovered that I can make an entity disapear simply by creatin tension in both of my lower cheek bones and my eyebrows.

I have done enough experimenting now that I believe with enough experimentation and documentation I can completely map out the effects that I want to have?

If I forcefully squint my eyes and smile freakeshly hard I can accelerate through layers of hyperspace effectively changing the color and landscape around me.

I am at a loss of words to describe what it is I am doing, It is incredible..

There must be more people out there that have discovered this control?

INCREDIBLE!

 

[۩]

Hey Ice House,

I have always felt that our consciousness is a direct projection of our bodies, and our entire bodies act as our brains, so to speak.

I have also observed that every single bodily function has a direct reaction to hyperspace. Whether it is emotions, what we have eaten, questions, bodily movements, mudras, jaw and tongue position, facial expressions, vocalizations, meditative techniques, heart rate, all of this and then some in my humble opinion dramatically alters what hyperspace is.

Now that you have become more sensitive to these things there is just about an infinite amount of things to explore!

 

[smokerx]

This is indeed very interesting Ice. I have noticed this also. I found out about this when I was about to have hard experience. I felt something was wrong and started to panic but then I realized I need to just let go and I started to smile. As soon as I started to smile all changed suddenly to very nice experience. I know the smile did this change. I have repeated this every time I knew I was gonna have bad trip and it always worked.

Really good you brought this up I am sure many members here have similar experience but just did not realize its them controlling the trip.

Now here is the point : all this control apply to smaller doses. Once you take a big one I do not think you will have any control over this. Once you gone you gone there is not body any more. So in my experience what I do I always go into it with big smile on my face (before vaping)

Id like to see my self,laughing with pipe in my mouth lol. I have to record it one day

 

[۩]

I've recorded a few trips, which I eventually deleted. It really helped me get an alternate perspective on the experience. I recommend it, just don't put it on youtube please.

 

[Electric Kool-Aid]

This stuff you all are talking about puts new levels (of control) to the experience.

Silly ideas:
Try cross-eyed! Tongue flipped, curled up or in a tube shape. Bite your lip or cause pain and see what happens!
Dress up funny looking and see if entities laugh at you.

 

[smokerx]

I've recorded a few trips, which I eventually deleted. It really helped me get an alternate perspective on the experience. I recommend it, just don't put it on youtube please.

Good to know it helped you thanks for that and no worries no youtube it will be only for me and my beautiful wife.

 

[smokerx]

This stuff you all are talking about puts new levels (of control) to the experience.

we may be up to something here. will see if more members confirm similar experience

Silly ideas:
Try cross-eyed! Tongue flipped, curled up or in a tube shape. Bite your lip or cause pain and see what happens!
Dress up funny looking and see if entities laugh at you.

because you came up with these bright ideas you are being promoted to nexus tester to try it out and report back to us

 

[Felnik]

I was waiting for someone to bring this up . In my last few intense journeys
It seems like I was shown something .

Try this , flair your nostrils as wide as you can and pull downand back into your mind .

It's something , not sure what it is yet.
Try it next time your one on one with an entity.

I can put myself in an altered state without anything doing this now .
Add harmala and its even more intense.

During my encounters it seemed a deep part of my sinuses was being stimulated almost as if to wake up some kind of latent ability within myself . Check it out for yourself .

 

[۩]

My favorite is total relaxation in full lotus and closing my eyes, moving my eyes upward so they are looking up through the top of my head. Feels like my "energy" rises and sometimes causes out of body experiences simply with this trigger.

 

[Ice House]

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one experiencing this.

I used to think I understood how, physiologically, the DMT experience worked. This new discovery, for me, changes this.

I dont mean to sound stupid but, are our facial muscles some how wired to receptor sites in out brain? do we have receptor sites in our facial tissue and when we constrict them it somehow changes the chemicaal flow or electrical current going to our brain?

Now here is the point : all this control apply to smaller doses. Once you take a big one I do not think you will have any control over this. Once you gone you gone there is not body any more. So in my experience what I do I always go into it with big smile on my face (before vaping)

I agree with this statement, but only with the highest doses. I have been working my GVG overtime to try and get a handle on this. For me it works like this-

If I take a mega dosse that takes me to a level that I experience amnesia, this technique of facial spacial manipulation doesnt work.

Low to moderate levels it works great.

Higher levels where I break through, here is the catch, If I know or if I remember that I am on DMT then I usually can remember to FSM or facial spacial manipulation.

Normally I am always aware that I am on DMT during a voyage. I find myself beginning to do this FSM right out of the gate. I believe that pretty soon the higher doses wont be an issue.

This new technique is really changing the way I voyage in a remarkable way.

WoW! Its got me wanting to vape more and more every day just to see where I can navigate to.

I am finding these layers that I move through when I tension a muscle or muscle group. If I do it quick there is an acceleration through the layers and I can see the layers wiz by. If I add this tension slowly I move through the layers slowly. If I go through a layer that looks interesting I can stop there and investigate. I can even relax the muscles and go back to a layer I moved through.

This is also teacching me how to isolate individual muscles in my face.

What has me the most curious is how the circuitry or wiring is with this.

Why does this happen?

 

[DeMaTron]

I experimented with this a little last night on some maintained threshold doses. I noticed the more your eyes are squinted the darker the colors, the less or more stretched the brighter. I've also noticed more tension seemed to accelerate the visuals. I'm just not sure particular muscles are doing different things or if theyre all doing the same thing because smiling/frowning/ect. all still seems to make my eyes either stretch or squint and increase/decrease tension. But I definitely noticed that I was more aware of how to put focus on certain parts of my head like the pineal gland and try to apply pressure and seemed to have an effect.

 

[Ice House]

I'm just not sure particular muscles are doing different things or if theyre all doing the same thing because smiling/frowning/ect. all still seems to make my eyes either stretch or squint and increase/decrease tension.

interesting observation. I will test this furtherina day or two. I am positive I get different effects from say contracting the muscles in my forehed or attempting to wiggle my ears or overexagerating a smile or a frown. You are correct in saying that all of these movements have an effect on the eyes. I am positive the change in effect isnt because more or less light getting through the eye lids because I am not only getting a change in color I'm getting changes in patters, textures, and I can even make entities disapear.

It would be interesting to be able to stimulate different facial muscles with electricity or maybe massage while in hyperspace. I think I could get Mrs Ice House to do this for me.

 

[vardlokkur]

This is a concept I think I also have intuitively utilized. It's almost a magickal concept that I've come across in Chaos Magick studies that basically speculates that in the way that emotions have chemical basis, one can similarly change their chemical balance through willed emotion. Through personal experience and experimentation I find this easiest through facial expression. Basically if I want to try and will myself to be happy, I force myself to smile, and lift my brows. Tryptamines have always exacerbated this tendency, and it is much easier for me to use this "backwards" method. In fact, if I do NOT become conscious of this connection, I can unwittingly propel myself into a state of paranoia, fear, or vacuity by having a sort of body language that may subconsciously mirror these emotions.

There are some indications of this being true, as snarls, growls, etc and other movements of the upper-lip area seem to trigger parasympathetic response, which could possibly explain their presence in defensive posturing as an animal is trying to steady their fight or flight response which could cause tremors/shakes due to rapid adrenaline production. Alternately, it could be why we feel a rush of endorphins when kissing? I may be getting a bit TOO speculative, but there's no harm in simply considering.

 

[Kazoo...]

You may find some interest in the research of Paul Ekman, a psychologist who has been a pioneer in the study of emotions and their relation to facial expressions. He developed the "Facial Action Coding System" (FACS) which is a system to taxonomize human facial expressions.

 

[endlessness]

I agree, also if you force your eyes tighter closed, there is also a change in the DMT realm... It is very interesting to explore, and it would be wonderful if anybody could come up with the patterns (move muscle X, such or such colors appear, or dark entities dissapear, or whatever).

BUT.... This only works to a certain extent IME.. I mean, past a certain level, I dont even remember i'm a human, much less that I have facial muscles to move But yeah in a significant number of experiences this can be played around with.

Not only facial muscles though, I think there's a lot one can do, using the voice (humming, etc) can also have a big effect.. Some people do that spontaneously, sometimes even its like the beings are trying to ask you to do that (just remembered terrence mckenna also mentioned something similar I think?).

I had a friend who would keep rolling around in bed during his trip and he said he moved through hyperspace as he did that.

So can we find patterns, or is it very unique to each experience or person?

 

[iomegaman72]

I had extensive control over my visions on my LSD-pharma trip... My eyelids were actually tired and worn out the next day because I had been pressing them so hard against my eyes the entire time. I couldn't figure it out when it was happening, I know the muscle actions that give way to the visions getting larger and grander but I have no idea what is actually causing it. I tried pressing my fingers against my eyes, but no effect. I tried closing my eyes tightly, but no effect. Only when I close my eyelids and press inwards on my eyes did any changes happen. I have noticed a couple of times before on only LSD that my facial expressions have sometimes affected visions in a wonderful manner. With the LSD-pharma it was like I was stuck in pure trance states with all my muscles clinched in the same position for minutes at a time. When a vision receded I realized my eyelids had become lax, so being the ever vigilant student I am I continued to tense them again It happened for a good 12 hours for who knows how many lengths at a time--at first I found it very hard to keep the muscles tensed for longer than a few moments but eventually my body just held the positions on its own.

Glad to see other people experience this wonder

 

[daedaloops]

Ah, found the thread. Thank you for this idea, I had so much fun experimenting with it last night. I'll just copy the relevant part from my trip report:

At one point I was trying out what I read in another thread about moving your face muscles while in hyperspace, it is incredible. It feels like you are the whole universe and you're changing into different forms with different colors and feelings. Even the slightest movements affect this, and each muscle that is contracted is sending out a song that is resonating across the universe. So finally I was just making the craziest faces, and trying out what forms and songs they make. Later I just started to laugh how that would look to an outsider, they would probably just drag me to a mental hospital. But in that state, it doesn't matter. You can be as crazy as you want and it feels so good and natural.

 

[joedirt]

I dont mean to sound stupid but, are our facial muscles some how wired to receptor sites in out brain? do we have receptor sites in our facial tissue and when we constrict them it somehow changes the chemicaal flow or electrical current going to our brain?

Not stupid at all. Technically yes you do. All of your bodies nerves essentially either send/receive messages to/from your brain. Your whole body is totally connected.

Ever try Yoga on Psychedelics? Wow. By the end of the routine your entire body is buzzing like the sound you hear on blast off. Totally charged. I have no idea what to do with this energy. It feels AWESOME though.