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A new rap song I wrote
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DM3
why not
The voice is too quiet. You should definitely work on mastering it. The beat is okay.
My feedback is that there are better music genres than rap. I would learn how to create real music if I were you.
Don't get me wrong, I was a fan of rap for a while, but I realized how primitive it is and stopped listening to it. Rap is often too negative and stupid.
Your beat is a good example: it's too sad and doesn't support higher vibes.
Just my feedback... think about it.
My feedback is that there are better music genres than rap. I would learn how to create real music if I were you.
Don't get me wrong, I was a fan of rap for a while, but I realized how primitive it is and stopped listening to it. Rap is often too negative and stupid.
Your beat is a good example: it's too sad and doesn't support higher vibes.
Just my feedback... think about it.
DM3
why not
I mean, he asked for the feedback I provided.
It's more like comparing a fake, poorly assembled iPhone (rap) to the real one (classical music, jazz).
I just strive for quality.
Listen to classics, jazz, bossa nova... Learn how to play them. It's not simple at all, unlike talking to a beat made with just two chords or sampled on an MPC.
You shared a shallow opinion as fact.
Shows what you know about music on the whole, much less rap. Rap doesn't have the same musical priorities as the other styles you've mentioned. Makes it less tonal, not less musical. So much for your expertise.
Also, notice how you called it primitive, which has interesting parallels to how large portions of a particular demographic that rap is popular with has also been pejoratively stated about them...
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DM3
why not
Why the facepalm? Feedback should be honest and straightforward, otherwise, it won't be helpful.
Are you really gonna argue about rap being primitive? It’s a fact, it's primitive. Just listen to 'Gucci Gang' or 'C.R.E.A.M.' That stuff is just primitive nonsense.
This isn’t just an opinion. it’s a fact, dude. Spitting some silly lines over a beat is pretty basic.
The classics and jazz are built on complex harmonies, while rap is usually made with just two chords, and the lyrics are mostly garbage.
If you start calling facts opinions, you’re just trying to twist the truth.
I don’t want to keep going in circles here, it’s pointless to argue with someone who refuses to see that the grass is green and the sky is blue. Ask real music experts and professionals, composers, and they’ll back me up on what I’m saying.
Peace
Are you really gonna argue about rap being primitive? It’s a fact, it's primitive. Just listen to 'Gucci Gang' or 'C.R.E.A.M.' That stuff is just primitive nonsense.
This isn’t just an opinion. it’s a fact, dude. Spitting some silly lines over a beat is pretty basic.
The classics and jazz are built on complex harmonies, while rap is usually made with just two chords, and the lyrics are mostly garbage.
If you start calling facts opinions, you’re just trying to twist the truth.
I don’t want to keep going in circles here, it’s pointless to argue with someone who refuses to see that the grass is green and the sky is blue. Ask real music experts and professionals, composers, and they’ll back me up on what I’m saying.
Peace
Yes I am going to argue about what is simply your opinion. I don't care that other people share the same opinion it's an opinion nonetheless. There's very little that's objective about music. Its in a uniquely human sphere in reality. So not the same as the grass being green and the sky being blue.
Also, saying that certain professionals would agree with you is a fallacy called appeal to authority. Think for yourself. Learn about the many many modes of music outside the ones mentioned in this thread.
However, you picked two songs of the plethora of rap out there. Poor look. Also, raps priorities are different than that of jazz or classical. They don't care about harmony or melododic structure. They care about lyrical structure and conveying a message, often times, as well as rhyming structure and patterning. So a very different standard.
But I'll be direct with you, seeing as rap has a genesis out of impoverished black culture in the US, a population often associated with being "primitive," "stupid," and "negative" I find your OPINION low-key racist.
Your only warning.
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ommani
Titanium Teammate
I think this post is “sad and doesn’t support higher vibes”…
The topic of hip-hop, including the overlapping duality of thug/trap rap and boom-bap/independent/conscious hip-hop is a nuanced one…
The rapper Murs breaks it down, at length, in his podcast Best Rapper in L.A. , which I wholeheartedly recommend to any hip-hop heads out there…
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You're free to hold this opinion of yours, but to state it as a fact is not the way to go about it. You're comparing two genres of music, and by extension - two forms of art. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. If you prefer jazz and classical over rap, then all the power to you. But to paint the people who enjoy rap as primitive and stupid is a horrible, holier-than-thou take that won't get you far beyond appearing marginally absurd in this type of discourse.
There are incredible rap artists out there, such as my favorite - Aesop Rock -
You're not required to like it. You are, however, required to maintain a civil attitude and not belittle people for liking art you don't.
Animistic
Titanium Teammate
Tbh if one calls rap primitive I think their sense of music is fairly primitive. Rap is much more about vocal rhythm crossed with poetry than classical/jazz music. Like sure Jazz is super technical but go rap a freestyle that not only has good rhythm but also delivers a message creatively and coherently. Sure, a lot of rap is about topics which arent glamorous (despite the rappers best attempts at making it so) but some of them have so much soul when they rap. There's also quite conscious rap and I'd say even say Kendrick Lamar, being a world famous rapper, is helping turn the tide from rapping about drugs, dollars and debauchery.
As for the rap in question, I'd love to hear more of your vocals, I'm not sure if it's possible to turn it up? I can't comment on the lyrics too much because even turned right up I can't really hear them too well. I can hear the underlying cadence/flow and I think the flow sounds good.
How long you been rapping for?
As for the rap in question, I'd love to hear more of your vocals, I'm not sure if it's possible to turn it up? I can't comment on the lyrics too much because even turned right up I can't really hear them too well. I can hear the underlying cadence/flow and I think the flow sounds good.
How long you been rapping for?
hugfortysix
Established member
I don't think that is a good idea to post feedback if you are not a fan of rap. You won't be qualified to give an unbiassed opinion....
The Sofa Traveler
Traveling without moving
Yes, and the eminent jazz label Blue Note was not mistaken when they released in 1993 artists like Guru or US3.
About @swish 's track , as others said before, voice definitely must be mixed more prominently. Beat is cool
Guru - Jazzmataz
US3 - Hand On The Torch
I could also add to the Blue Note jazz/rap list :
Erik Truffaz - The Dawn
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All day long. All I ever want is a dark creepy forest and uk grime.
Swish.. thanks for sharing your music. I liked it!
There will always be haters. Keep doing your thing.
There will always be haters. Keep doing your thing.
hugfortysix
Established member
Yes i agree with others about the voice needing to bought up in the mix. Have you produced it on headphones? From a creative perspective , maybe i would take the melody that the tune fades out with and introduce it a bit more in the parts before.
As far as calling rap primitive goes, i wouldn't go that far but a lot of it does have a prime-evil, dirty rock and roll ,grab you by the balls kind of vibe. Which is very pleasing. But i guess calling it primitive could imply an idea that it lacks intelligence or subtlety. There are good and crappy examples in all musical genres but then we are entering the realms of the subjective and the complex journeys that we have all taken to develop our tastes.
If we are all posting rap tunes ,i'll stick one in...
WUGAZI
As far as calling rap primitive goes, i wouldn't go that far but a lot of it does have a prime-evil, dirty rock and roll ,grab you by the balls kind of vibe. Which is very pleasing. But i guess calling it primitive could imply an idea that it lacks intelligence or subtlety. There are good and crappy examples in all musical genres but then we are entering the realms of the subjective and the complex journeys that we have all taken to develop our tastes.
If we are all posting rap tunes ,i'll stick one in...
WUGAZI
ommani
Titanium Teammate
Furthermore, Blue Note gave the producer, Madlib, free reign to create an instrumental hip-hop album using samples from Blue Note records, called Shades of Blue…Yes, and the eminent jazz label Blue Note was not mistaken when they released in 1993 artists like Guru or US3.
About @swish 's track , as others said before, voice definitely must be mixed more prominently. Beat is cool
Guru - Jazzmataz
US3 - Hand On The Torch
I could also add to the Blue Note jazz/rap list :
Erik Truffaz - The Dawn
swish
Esteemed member
Thanks for the replies!
I have been rapping for one year give or take. It's also a freestyle rap.
I'm no good at mixing rap vocals so generally I do my raps clean, just with reverb. It's why I keep the volume down on the vocals because if it's too loud I feel there are certain nuances. Thanks for the tips!
I have been rapping for one year give or take. It's also a freestyle rap.
I'm no good at mixing rap vocals so generally I do my raps clean, just with reverb. It's why I keep the volume down on the vocals because if it's too loud I feel there are certain nuances. Thanks for the tips!