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A Poll to Gauge Members' Success w/ Lime

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Well we're not talking about NaOH (lye), but sodium carbonate is often found to be a poor substitute for lye. Assuming SWIY meant Ca(OH)2 (lime):

Sodium carbonate is generally considered to not be strong enough to help break down plant material, but with cebil having such a high percentage of actives and with such a soft and easy to pulverize structure, it is ideal for drytek extraction using sodium carbonate. Not to say it doesn't work, but the texture and absorbancy of material mixed well with lime makes it ideal for this sort of use with an NPS like limonene. Lime is also a stronger base, despite not being incredibly soluble in water. SWIM only uses sodium carbonate in conversion from fumarate to freebase.

Or perhaps SWIY means sodium carbonate in place of lye, rather than lime in place of lye? The same as above still pertains, but it's important to mention that neither can directly replace the use of lye. To be used effectively, household bases are not used in solution as with lye.
 
logos2012 said:
amor_fati said:
Limtek Extraction - DMT-Nexus Wiki
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Thanks! That answered all of the green guys questions.
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Glad to help! So SWIY was successful? The comment seemed to correspond with a new vote of success on the poll. Suppose that's good enough!


From the all or nothing nature of the votes so far, SWIM would have to assume that SWIYs are either getting the feel for it or are just not quite grasping the few specifics unique to limtek. SWIM would imagine there's just somewhat of a barrier between the thinking behind wet-teks and the thinking behind limtek that makes the transition a bit difficult. Once that barrier is transcended though, a whole new world seems to open up. Give it a try, there's practically no way to botch an extraction permanently, so what is there to lose?
 
Thanks for clarifying things amor_fati.

Perhaps talks of NaOH may not pertain to this theread,
Now one question has arisen.
Is it possible to use NaOH in place of Ca(OH)2 in limtek.
so that one could save the amount of NaOH,
like instead of following { bark: lye :water = 1:1:15 }ratio,
one may be able to use 1:1/15 :1 ratio..?

If this is possible, one-time purchase of NaOH lasts much longer,
and since NaOH has higer solubility in water, it looks better than Ca(OH)2.
 
mombreast said:
Thanks for clarifying things amor_fati.

Perhaps talks of NaOH may not pertain to this theread,
Now one question has arisen.
Is it possible to use NaOH in place of Ca(OH)2 in limtek.
so that one could save the amount of NaOH,
like instead of following { bark: lye :water = 1:1:15 }ratio,
one may be able to use 1:1/15 :1 ratio..?

If this is possible, one-time purchase of NaOH lasts much longer,
and since NaOH has higer solubility in water, it looks better than Ca(OH)2.
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Do not try this! It is very dangerous to work with high concentrations of lye. Limtek is named as such because it is only suitable for lime. The main purpose is to reduce hazards, and substituting lye would completely overturn this. Lime is strong enough, lye too strong and will result in a runny, corrosive, toxic mess.
 
amor_fati said:
Glad to help! So SWIY was successful? The comment seemed to correspond with a new vote of success on the poll. Suppose that's good enough!


From the all or nothing nature of the votes so far, SWIM would have to assume that SWIYs are either getting the feel for it or are just not quite grasping the few specifics unique to limtek. SWIM would imagine there's just somewhat of a barrier between the thinking behind wet-teks and the thinking behind limtek that makes the transition a bit difficult. Once that barrier is transcended though, a whole new world seems to open up. Give it a try, there's practically no way to botch an extraction permanently, so what is there to lose?
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The green entity hasn't tried yet. He would like to try with Chacruna but was wondering how would be the best way to go about it with lime. Any ideas?
 
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