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A shroom expereince

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brilliantlydim

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I was planning to take some mushrooms for a while, and the window of opportunity finally presented itself. I have been slowly working my dose up, and was going to take 4.8g but when measuring it out I realized that I wasn't in a great mindset for the trip. I ended up measuring out just over 2.5g grams, an amount I knew I could handle if things turned dark.

Now I'm whether it happened because I was expecting it, or expected it because it was coming, or a combination of them both, my trip was the darkest of any that I have had.

I kept having visions of pools of bodies of people, reaching out to grab me. I would see an image of a beautiful woman, and then watch her face turn into a laughing devilish face. I got a very dark vibe the whole time. I just laid in the dark in my room letting everything come and go through me.

At one point a black infinite pool that could be described like an ocean of oil, was hovering right above me in front of my face. I had this thought beckoning me to stick my head into it, and I would then know everything. I'm not sure if was infinite knowledge, or a specific knowledge that was offered, but it was something far greater than I could currently fathom.

I sat there, with it in front of me contemplating if it was right. If it was a trick. If it was lure to do something wrong. Now when thinking back to it, my contemplations about the good and evil of technology come up. For some reason it makes me think about the story of adam and eve and the tree of knowledge and its fruit.

I was unable to make a decision to stick my head in or not, at which point my dog came running into the room and licking me, which completely snapped me back to "reality" After that I remember thinking that that I should have just stuck my head in, that information does not have morality and I could not do something "bad" by acquiring knowledge.

It seems during my psychedelic trips that I have a reoccurring scenario manifesting itself in different ways. I am brought to a point where if I go further I will be "crossing" some sort of line, level, barrier etc. But I encounter a hesitance and sometimes a fear to do so, in which point I am backed away from that point.

I know that with a large enough dose I can force myself to "breakthrough" barrier, but I know that I also could have done it if I didn't hold my self back at the doses that have already been at.
 
Thank you for sharing your experience with us! :d

The theme you experienced seems to be quite common among psychonauts. The theme being that a substance will mentally/emotionally push you to an edge where you do not feel comfortable and you have to decide whether to back away or dive right in. Through all my readings and experience it seems it is always best to dive into the experience. Ann Shulgin describes a similar theme when talking about dealing with your "beast" ego. The general idea is that you will remain scared and timid until you fully immerse yourself and overcome whatever it is your are afraid of. That being said it is FAR easier said than done. Take your time and take things slowly.
(I will try and find the specific Shulgin quote and post it)

As for the overall negative feeling, it sounds like you did that to yourself. Being paranoid of having negative feelings and thinking about it often can end up putting you in that mindset. I have seen many of my friends do this to themselves and it does not look fun. The best advice I have for that is to meditate and really center yourself before and experience so your mind is mostly empty.

Hopefully this was somewhat helpful and thanks again for sharing your experience. It is always awesome to read similar experiences and see things that most of us have in common! :thumb_up:
 
Thank you Leithen, it was surely helpful.

I don't have any person IRL I can bounce these experiences off of or at least any that would have any kind of understanding, so the nexus is really great in this respect (as well as others).

I am working my self closer and closer to diving in. I realize that at some point it is no loner preparation but procrastination (most likely already).

Thank you again, I wish the best to you In The new year.
 
I've had similar experiences in really rare cases. From another thread:

I've had a couple really dark trips on strong drugs. Once I tripped for three days on LSD (unintended) and towards the end really had to constantly battle to keep my mind focused, otherwise it could feel it start to be overrun by some really twisted visions of gore and brutality. It was quite challenging to maintain focus, calmness, control while the trip felt like it was just never going to end. I don't think I was working through any trauma per se, but definitely mentally battling something very dark.

There's been one similar experience when combining a bunch of different psychedelics and tripping super hard. Walking through a crowded campsite in the darkness I could start to sense this really dark energy in my periphery. Like, if I chose to focus on it or let it take over it could result in some dark and murderous type stuff. I was fully in control, but I could sense it there.

It's very scary, not knowing what would happen or what you'd be capable of if you were to let yourself go and allow the darkness to take over.
 
Tuesday's Gone said:
ehud said:
I have been slowly working my dose up, and was going to take 4.8g but when measuring it out I realized that I wasn't in a great mindset for the trip. I ended up measuring out just over 2.5g grams, an amount I knew I could handle if things turned dark.

For sure if you don't feel in a great mindset for the trip, taking a lower dose is better than taking what you intended to take. The following is just my opinion... I think in that situation, not tripping at all and waiting for another day when you'll feel better is much safer than merely lowering the dose. There's no rush. No matter how much you're cautious with psychedelics, you can't ever be 100% sure that you won't have a bad trip but why take unnecessary risks ?

I hope this doesn't sound too preachy. Feel free to ignore my advice and do as you please. It's just that I don't like hearing about people having unpleasant experiences (sometimes with consequences) when it could easily have been avoided.

Definitely not taking it as preachy and I totally get what you are saying.

My setting was right, and although I said I wasn't in a great mindset for the trip, I wasn't really in a bad one either. I just felt as though I didn't want to tackle a new all time high dose in anything less than a fully optimal mindset. My windows of opportunity to work with shrooms are not all that often, so I hate to waste one. I also feel like not all my trips will be or should be fun or "easy", so although I would like them to be I am accepting that they won't be.

Although the trip was dark, I wouldn't say that it was actually bad. It had a dark theme to it, but it was never at a point that I couldn't handle. I was very interested in what I would see next the entire time. I didn't like what I was seeing, but looked at it all like I was seeing it for a reason and just kept myself open letting it flow through.

I didn't think about it for a while, but now a few months later it is popping up in my mind so there must be something there for me to work with.
 
fluidfocus said:
I've had similar experiences in really rare cases. From another thread:

I've had a couple really dark trips on strong drugs. Once I tripped for three days on LSD (unintended) and towards the end really had to constantly battle to keep my mind focused, otherwise it could feel it start to be overrun by some really twisted visions of gore and brutality. It was quite challenging to maintain focus, calmness, control while the trip felt like it was just never going to end. I don't think I was working through any trauma per se, but definitely mentally battling something very dark.

There's been one similar experience when combining a bunch of different psychedelics and tripping super hard. Walking through a crowded campsite in the darkness I could start to sense this really dark energy in my periphery. Like, if I chose to focus on it or let it take over it could result in some dark and murderous type stuff. I was fully in control, but I could sense it there.

It's very scary, not knowing what would happen or what you'd be capable of if you were to let yourself go and allow the darkness to take over.

I never have feared of succumbing to evil if that's what you are talking about?
 
Sometimes a large dose is actually easier then a small one with mushrooms... When you know you cannot resist the mushrooms you instead commit to them fully and you commit to your experience fully. It is much harder being on the fence then it is being "all in." It's like battling yourself when you dont commit sometimes - maybe not trusting yourself fully and resisting your best interests because of fears.....

A larger dose isnt always easier, but sometimes is. Sometimes you just gotta go for it - but I am sure that will happen when you are ready.

Often times the most difficult mushroom journeys are the ones which taught me the most, and sometimes taking them in a "less then optimal mind set" taught me a lot about turning that mind set around and really digging deep into my inner strength.
 
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