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ACRB acid phase layer separation-to filter or not to filter?

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Haven't done this in a while, having just done simple a/b's, and I've tried to find the answer but I'm not seeing it, so I'd appreciate someone with experience doing ATB on ACRB what the best thing to do next is.

although i did find this classic bit:
moyshekapoyre wrote:
For the folks getting "who the f--- do you think you are?"... That is probably the most excellent question that could ever be asked. Shame on mimosa for not asking Acacia's question. Perhaps Johnthis is why Jesus Christ and the Baptist like Acacia resin...

Indeed, who the *@#$ do you think you are? You think you are the thinker of the thoughts that arise? The seer of the visions seen? Where does the thinker reside? Above the thoughts? Does the so-called thinker even know what the next thought will be? If you look, you'll see there's no thinker anywhere thinking. Thoughts arising self-aware, sights seen but no seer. This is "seeing things as they are," which is the only way to be liberated from samsara. All phenomena are dependently originated.

blessings,
nobody


Three boils were done with 80 grams powdered ACRB (bottom of a kilo bag of shredded bark) 2000ml water each with +-400 ml 5% vinegar until each was reduced on simmer to 250ml approx, about two hours each, all three combined and reduced to a total of 250 resulting in thick red syrup. Only three because roommate started complaining about the smell :?

After letting this cool, phases began separating that look different than just particles and I'm wondering what they are. The top is transparent, the bottom black and there are at least two grey layers on addition to the main one. Too much 'gar? No salt added or anything, just water, bark and vinegar.

Should i filter, decant, or base it all from here? My thinking is to just add base solution, because there are probably alkaloids in the solids? I plan on doing a mini a/b on naphtha pulls and maybe further xylene pulls while the whole soup is warm, after having let it base for 24 hours.

Nevermind the fetus hand in the jar and don't ask questions about it, it's irrelevant...:?:
 

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I would base it and that will probably fix things to a uniform inky black with beautiful maroon tint. I didn't have any such issue with my recent acrb extraction in case you were wondering. Look forward to your results!!
 
Yeah, i think it'll be okay.😁

Added 80g lye dissolved in about 250ml water, let sit for a few and added 100ml nps, shook like heck and stirred a few times. Using a baster so there's still a good bit of nps in soup.

But the last time i saw clouding like that straight out of warm soup was with an ACRB extract that yielded over 3%, something i didn't think was possible at the time.

After playing with MHRB to compare it to ACRB, I'll choose the latter for these stellar results, even if they are less predictable.

Thanks for the inspiration/recommendation on this, it was a good move, you know who!:!:
 

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One note I will put out there is your 3% yield probably consisted of a lot of oils. Without a defat step, acrb yields can seem puzzlingly high. After reading the full spectrum thread recently, I decided to skip the defat on my last extraction. I got so much oily goo on the bottom of my dish, any crystals were gobbled up by it when I scraped it up. Which is fine, I wanted a full spec, but my yield has been insane so far. Way higher than last time with same batch of bark and a defat step. So keep this in mind when making a blend, you may want to increase the spice amount to compensate for the oils. I made a 1.2:1 blend because of this.
 
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