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ACRB Extraction Mystery (No yield)

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mdtraveler

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Hello all. Happy to be here.


An extraction was performed on 125g of ground/powdered ACRB. The Cyb/Earthwalker hybrid A/B Salt method was used and the procedure was followed exactly. All reagents were in the proper proportions, and pH was also measured where applicable just to be sure. HCL was used for acidifying the bark, and pure NaOH was used for basifying. Hot naphtha was used for the pulls, and the extraction vessel was heated in a water bath during all phases of the extraction. Everything went very smoothly, and the were no real problems to speak of....except one: No DMT has been obtained from this extraction. None. Zero. No "goo", no dirty powder, nothing. So I'm all ears for opinions on just where the hell the product is hiding. I have no real means of determining the quality of the bark, but it was obtained from what seemed to be a reputable business with many very positive reviews.

I've only done a couple of hot naphtha pulls on the post extraction cleanup step, but I went ahead and evaporated those pulls just to see how things were looking. After finding nothing to speak of in the evap dish, I decided to go ahead and evaporate the naphtha used for the pulls on the basified bark. (The solvent that was removed from the cleanup step after the DMT would have movd into the acidic aqueous layer.) No DMT (or anything else) showed up in the dish after the naphtha was finished evaporating, so the goods aren't there either. So the DMT is either still in the aqueous phase of the cleanup/defat/mini A/B or it's still in the bark, or it was never there to begin with.

The only part of the performed procedure that didn't exactly seem to match the written guide was that the aqueous phase of the cleanup A/B didn't turn milky/cloudy when the base was added, like the pictures in the writeup. Both the aqueous phase and the NPS were crystal clear. No plant fats or oils, bark particulates, or other contaminates were visible. I even shook the shit out of the 1L RBF I was using for the cleanup A/B to see if I could create an emulsion. I couldn't even do that. Perfect phase separation within 60 seconds. That, in and of itself, is unusual in my experience, so I checked the pH of the aqueous phase again to be sure, and it was between 13-14. So more than enough NaOH was used for the cleanup A/B.

I'm all out of ideas and things to try so I'm very open to any and all suggestions.

Thanks in advance.
 
mdtraveler said:
The remaining bark yielded absolutely zilch. No fats, oils, goo or anything else. It almost seems like this bark had previously been stripped of everything with alcohol or something.
More bark from a different supplier should be here in the near future. Hopefully it will be better.

I've seen psychotria from online vendors come in with a sickly looking gray coloration to it, and it was completely inactive. I think they had boiled this stuff and then dried the leaves out before passing it on to the consumer, just a guess but having seen boiled fresh leaves before, they took on a similar appearance. Wouldn't surprise me if the same thing was going on with some of the bark.
 
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