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advice for UK residents: Use Coleman fuel

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MalargueZiggy

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Can't remember who it was that first suggested this on here, but having previously used an assortment of sub quality lighter fuels because of the lack of decent naphtha in the UK, I am now officially advising all to use Coleman fuel.

My fictional alter-ego has just reported some lovely white crystals, with very satisfactory yield percentage using it.

Easily obtainable from Blacks, an outdoor shop.

Anyway, just thought I'd throw that out there, in case anyone is struggling as my alter-ego used to for a decent source in the UK.
 
A foaf's aunt just did an evap test for some Coleman fuel after reading this (she's very altruistic, she worries about you).

It left a really obvious turquoise residue. It didn't show up much done in the middle of a china saucer (you know the little indent that holds the cup in place), just a tint there, but when a little is evapped in a small coffee cup there's loads of the waxy turquoise stuff left over. even as the solvent evaps, it's obviously blue when it gets concentrated. On a black china plate, dark waxy contour lines are obvious after evap.

She repeated her experiment, this time with crockery washed by hand with Ecover then rinsed with clean water ,rather than from the washing machine, in case the machine was responsible for the residue. The same residue happened again. Definitely from the fuel.

Surely this is not good? It looks like there's a lot of this turquise stuff in there. A bad batch, or an impurity that only shows up when you evap more than a driblle of the stuff? Anyone chemists know what it is? And if it's dangerous? :/
 
Turquoise residue? Hmmm.. SWIM can't spot this on white crockery, SWIM used the standard fuel found in Blacks. Could be it be an aromatic content? What SWIM has read suggests that Coleman is very pure.

Out of interest, what does your friend's aunt use for naphtha?
 
She's not going to use it. Coleman fuel bought from Cotswold outdoor shop, £6 for 500ml. It says on the back 'petroleum spirit- UN 1268' (just in case it's the wrong stuff).

It could always be a bad batch, or maybe they've changed what they put in it recently, but it might be worth you retesting it in a teacup with a larger amount. She doesn't have any alternatives to suggest. She's going to test out 'Bartoline Premium Low Odour White Spirit' from B&Q next, which has been mentioned elsewhere.
 
endlessness said:
well, DONT USE IT then... no way anybody should use some turquoise-residue-leaving solvent

or any residue at all

What if you dont even evaporate it? I just freeze precipitate, then recrystalize. This always leaves me with nice fluffy off whitish crystals. I always like to melt it down tho (thanks for advice Acolon!) The color changes a little when you melt it down, but I find it makes it much more manageable.
 
ohayoco said:
A foaf's aunt just did an evap test for some Coleman fuel after reading this (she's very altruistic, she worries about you).

It left a really obvious turquoise residue. It didn't show up much done in the middle of a china saucer (you know the little indent that holds the cup in place), just a tint there, but when a little is evapped in a small coffee cup there's loads of the waxy turquoise stuff left over. even as the solvent evaps, it's obviously blue when it gets concentrated. On a black china plate, dark waxy contour lines are obvious after evap.

She repeated her experiment, this time with crockery washed by hand with Ecover then rinsed with clean water ,rather than from the washing machine, in case the machine was responsible for the residue. The same residue happened again. Definitely from the fuel.

Surely this is not good? It looks like there's a lot of this turquise stuff in there. A bad batch, or an impurity that only shows up when you evap more than a driblle of the stuff? Anyone chemists know what it is? And if it's dangerous? :/

Some lads get this shit from BLACKS outdoor shop and performed stb and went out with very messy spice.

KUSHMASTER said:
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What if you dont even evaporate it? I just freeze precipitate, then recrystalize. This always leaves me with nice fluffy off whitish crystals. I always like to melt it down tho (thanks for advice Acolon!) The color changes a little when you melt it down, but I find it makes it much more manageable.

Even after double freeze precipitation, ended up with yellowish taint on the spice. Fellas vomited after smoking evaporated yellow goo and felt a bit nauseous after smoking double precipitate.

benzyme said:
the date of the doc is irrelevant
look up CAS#s when searching for these things. this Coleman fuel is 100% light aliphatics naptha, C5-C9
Well not a this one, pal

SWIM is under the impression that someone's aunt used something like Drano Professional in the basification, blueish powdered crystals (NOT 100% lye)[/quote]
benzyme said:
Very slightly blue (or greenish) taint of spice extracts (whilst in C.F solution), were observed by those lads.

ohayoco said:
She's not going to use it. Coleman fuel bought from Cotswold outdoor shop, £6 for 500ml. It says on the back 'petroleum spirit- UN 1268' (just in case it's the wrong stuff).
Yeah blody Coleman`s. ILPT performed just basic water extraction on itish and some white (plastic like) stuff was formed on interface C.F./water

ohayoco said:
It could always be a bad batch, or maybe they've changed what they put in it recently, but it might be worth you retesting it in a teacup with a larger amount. She doesn't have any alternatives to suggest. She's going to test out 'Bartoline Premium Low Odour White Spirit' from B&Q next, which has been mentioned elsewhere.

PLEASE DON`T . ILPT heard about good results with freeze prec. but the stuff must stink shitty :( and one cannot evaporate it properly

SWAN was recently tested. (no residue ) EXCELLENT STUFF it is. VERY good solvent and ILPT has huge suspicion it contain dash of aromates (either benzene or toulene or some other derivates ) which is good cuz they pull a tiny bit of " jungle " compound " YUM ":d

He used it first time in little batch (10 g) a/b. He has the idea of a/b after he received gift from parrot.Just before he entered this forum idea of stb :idea: appeared in his head too. He firstly entered forum because was curious with which solvent, extraction could succeed (just like you). Lighter fuel was great idea and he was left with very powerful material. He wiped the smear (he was impatient and used heat so spice were molten )
with some dried herb. This have been smoked in regular pipe and one hit send him to the other reality 😉 After he came back offered hit to his flatmate who was amazed too.

SWAN IS EXTRA REFINED this most likely mean redestillated (or other way purified) petroleum fraction. IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE but there is no point to be tight. It MUST not leave any residue otherwise it will shorten the lifetime of (sometimes expensive) lighters like zippo etc..
ILPT got his batch from the Somerfield retail chain.

Newport ( from the of-licences (paki shops)) is not recommended , cuz it is cheap crap (but cleaner then C.F. )
 
BTW. caustic soda, soda crystals and citric acid from WILKINSONS / 10 % vinegar (made of Poland)from paki shop / SWAN from Somerfield /litmus paper from e-bay / good MHBR (CHECK suppliers section ) and a bit of work and you become very happy bitch. :lol:
 
"Even after double freeze precipitation, ended up with yellowish taint on the spice. Fellas vomited after smoking evaporated yellow goo and felt a bit nauseous after smoking double precipitate."

Unlucky mate. For the record, my foaf's aunt has never had anything except very nice white blow your head off bundles of fun from using Coleman fuel. Even the first couple of extracts were fine, although thinking back probably generally a bit harsh coz of the Sodium Hydroxide but still perfectly smokeable.

Did you wash your product?

Had been tempted towards Swan, but had heard that lighter fuel is generally impure....? E.G Ronsonol is attacked all over the shop.

Whatever works I guess.
 
slym said:
Did you wash your product?
I HAVEN`T DONE ANYTHING I just writing what I heard in my mind and my dreams,pal.:twisted:

So those lads use ammonia from boots diluted with distilled water and washed trice with this solution .
slym said:
Unlucky mate. For the record, my foaf's aunt has never had anything except very nice white blow your head off bundles of fun from using Coleman fuel.
look at the pic.
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This is not WHITE but it`s clearer because it form crystals. Lads got only white or yellowish prec. as tiny particles but NOT A CRYSTALS

WHITE doesn`t mean CLEAN Dimitri should be colourless not a white. The yellow taint from above is either N-oxide or jungle comp. Dirty solvent hardly get you nice crystals. People calling crystals everything nowadays even resin on buds, idiots.:lol:
 
slym said:
"Even after double freeze precipitation, ended up with yellowish taint on the spice. Fellas vomited after smoking evaporated yellow goo and felt a bit nauseous after smoking double precipitate."

Unlucky mate. For the record, my foaf's aunt has never had anything except very nice white blow your head off bundles of fun from using Coleman fuel. Even the first couple of extracts were fine, although thinking back probably generally a bit harsh coz of the Sodium Hydroxide but still perfectly smokeable.

Same with my FOAF. Never had any problems at all.
 
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