ok so swim has been in the processes of a stb tec proccess lye/naptha. broke down in lye warming during a good 3 hours but total soak time of mhrb 16hrs then soaked in warm bath with naptha for first pull for 30-45 min rolling continuously. filtered threw in frezer. swim expects at least .1g white spice. iv only tried dmt 2 time never break through but swim wants to break through with one hit. he has an oil dome bong attachmant would it be a good idea to throw the whole point on the dabber and take one massive toke to break through.
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Jarl Von Hoother
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make sure you added enough grams of lye as grams of mimosa hostilis. and every 12 ml to mhrb gram.
Keep shaking do this as much as possible don't be impatient I know I know you want to see the crystals BUT first adding around a pint of hot naphtha and shake hard and good. I know it causes emulsions (i use a cake mixer) you can add salt and that clears up the emulsions plus DMT doing that makes DMT less soluble and it will float directly into the naphtha layer. Pull about 3 to 5 times depending on how much you're working with. Precipitate for 3 days in super cold setting in freezer the wait will REALLY pay off. and expect to find half a gram more or so. than do a simple rex if still impure.
To increase the likelyhood of a break through you might want to check into harmalas, especially B. Caapi. which you can extract in gibrans tek. if you're in for the long transiberian haul Taking mushrooms I heard works absolute wonders!!
good luck fellow brother of the spice:surprised
Sincerely Jarl Von Hoother
Keep shaking do this as much as possible don't be impatient I know I know you want to see the crystals BUT first adding around a pint of hot naphtha and shake hard and good. I know it causes emulsions (i use a cake mixer) you can add salt and that clears up the emulsions plus DMT doing that makes DMT less soluble and it will float directly into the naphtha layer. Pull about 3 to 5 times depending on how much you're working with. Precipitate for 3 days in super cold setting in freezer the wait will REALLY pay off. and expect to find half a gram more or so. than do a simple rex if still impure.
To increase the likelyhood of a break through you might want to check into harmalas, especially B. Caapi. which you can extract in gibrans tek. if you're in for the long transiberian haul Taking mushrooms I heard works absolute wonders!!
good luck fellow brother of the spice:surprised
Sincerely Jarl Von Hoother
Jarl Von Hoother
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Also it might be better to use a vapor genie or hand held vaporizer. Whatever you do DON'T let any open flame touch the spice. but yeah Harmaline or harmine alkaloids will greatly potentate the DMT experience. Results vary dramatically- for some the DMT peaks for 30 minutes to an hour by deactivating gut enzymes that metabolize (ruin) DMT. Caapi tea would be best, if not consider doing some meditation or take 100mgs and see where that gets you. Some people even Ohm vowels or mantras to change their ViBrAtIoNs. PM me and tell me how it goes!
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Why the need to do it in one hit? You will probably be better off with 1-2-3 done! In fact if you go a little easy on the first to get things primed and then hit the second hard, then... close the deal..3! There's a reason good things come in 3's 
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If you can vaporize the dab properly with that attachment, then I say 35-40mg, fill the bong up, and take it.
OR..in my opinion for a bong, look into making enhanced leaf/changa. Real easy to make and nearly fool proof. You just throw some in the bong, light it, and draw the smoke til its opaque, pull carb, and :shock: :twisted:
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...or something like that.
But seriously, changa in a bong, one hit. My strongest experience that I ever had was with a bong. Now I'm not saying that this IS the way to get the best, most intense experience...just the method I have found most effective me for.
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As oneironaut said though, you can take two massive tokes. One held for a good 15 seconds or so to get the ball rolling, then the second to fully disengage soul from body.
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OR..in my opinion for a bong, look into making enhanced leaf/changa. Real easy to make and nearly fool proof. You just throw some in the bong, light it, and draw the smoke til its opaque, pull carb, and :shock: :twisted:
:thumb_up: ...or something like that.But seriously, changa in a bong, one hit. My strongest experience that I ever had was with a bong. Now I'm not saying that this IS the way to get the best, most intense experience...just the method I have found most effective me for.
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As oneironaut said though, you can take two massive tokes. One held for a good 15 seconds or so to get the ball rolling, then the second to fully disengage soul from body.
:thumb_up:
I say your best bet is a GVG, 1 hits all you need.
But failing that then I would go for infused herb as Tattvamasi said.
I never like the 3 hit method and i think it is greatly misunderstood, there is nothing special about 3 hits, it just takes that many when your using a poor vaping devices.
Think about it like this, if it takes you 10 secs to take each hit, then you hold it for at least 10 secs, then 5 secs to catch your breath. This is repeated x3 which means by the time you lay down and close eyes it is at least 75 secs since you began the process, if you get it in 1 hit you are done in 10 secs and get an extra minute in hyperspace.
There is also a considerable difference in the effect of taking your dose in a single hit compared to 3.
But failing that then I would go for infused herb as Tattvamasi said.
I never like the 3 hit method and i think it is greatly misunderstood, there is nothing special about 3 hits, it just takes that many when your using a poor vaping devices.
Think about it like this, if it takes you 10 secs to take each hit, then you hold it for at least 10 secs, then 5 secs to catch your breath. This is repeated x3 which means by the time you lay down and close eyes it is at least 75 secs since you began the process, if you get it in 1 hit you are done in 10 secs and get an extra minute in hyperspace.
There is also a considerable difference in the effect of taking your dose in a single hit compared to 3.
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3rdI said:
:lol: Yes...yes there is.
But yeah arctuis, when you get the GVG down you could totally do it in one go and more times than not it's much smoother than taking 1 monster hit out of a bong. Although there's been several times where I lit the changa very carefully, dragging it slow and I didn't so much as cough.
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I can't speak for changa, never done it, but for a bong, seems logical enough. 3rdI, you are correct in that there is nothing magical about 3 hits, and as you pointed out, the vape device plays a big part in that. I don't have leather lungs so for me a little hit and then a big one has worked well for me, the third one probably wouldn't even be necessary with a GVG, which I have not had the pleasure of using yet...
So here's a question, which would be more effective? Taking a smaller dose (say 20-25mg) all in one hit within a few seconds or 40mg in 2 or 3 hits over the course of a minute?
If the former is more or equally as efffective, then with .1g it may make more sense to try and clear a dose in one hit afterall?? Might make it go further...
So here's a question, which would be more effective? Taking a smaller dose (say 20-25mg) all in one hit within a few seconds or 40mg in 2 or 3 hits over the course of a minute?
If the former is more or equally as efffective, then with .1g it may make more sense to try and clear a dose in one hit afterall?? Might make it go further...
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*oneironaut* said:
0.1g = 100mg
0.01g = 10mg
Got to read those scales right or get hammered hard..:d
Morning *oneironaut*, hope your well.
OK, properly vaped DMT is very very smooth, to the point where you can't even feel it as you inhale, so there is no need for leather lungs. If it is harsh at all then you are burning your DMT.
Only 1 hit is needed with a GVG, you can easily clear a full dose. I would say its possible to clear 100mg in a single hit but this is massive over kill and it would be a very bad idea.
If your after the BOOOOOOM effect you want to get it down in 1, i think taking 25mg in a single hit would be better, but I'm not 100% on that, there is a big difference between 20/25 and 40mg. The big difference in effect is between the same dosage in 1hit compared to splitting it into several hits.
With a GVG 100mg is 3/4 solid doses. But may be less with less effective vaping devices.
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OK, properly vaped DMT is very very smooth, to the point where you can't even feel it as you inhale, so there is no need for leather lungs. If it is harsh at all then you are burning your DMT.
*oneironaut* said:
Only 1 hit is needed with a GVG, you can easily clear a full dose. I would say its possible to clear 100mg in a single hit but this is massive over kill and it would be a very bad idea.
*oneironaut* said:
If your after the BOOOOOOM effect you want to get it down in 1, i think taking 25mg in a single hit would be better, but I'm not 100% on that, there is a big difference between 20/25 and 40mg. The big difference in effect is between the same dosage in 1hit compared to splitting it into several hits.
*oneironaut* said:
With a GVG 100mg is 3/4 solid doses. But may be less with less effective vaping devices.
the best thing about the GVG is the 1 hit delivery.
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cyb said:
Sorry, what I meant was that if Arctuis only had .1g that he might be better off doing smaller doses but in one hit i.e. 4x25 and make it go further DEFINITELY not .1g all in one hit. My bad.
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thanks 3rdI, I'm more than well...ur input is greatly appreciated :d no way around it, time to spring for a GVG!
Just did my first re-X so the occasion seems fit... beautiful chrystal goodness awaits. :want:
Just did my first re-X so the occasion seems fit... beautiful chrystal goodness awaits. :want:
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Arctuis, let us know how it goes/went!
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