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Alkaloids distribution in recrystallization layers

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Noisy

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A question came to my mind concerning recrystallization.

I performed this on A/B extraction on MHRB with naphta. The resulting crystals were disposed in three layers:
- The largest one, on top, was made of translucent crystals, like little spines, and had no smell at all
- The second one, below, was lightly yellow, crystals were bigger and had this typical "chemical flower" smell
- The last one was orange, a little bit oily and had a very strong smell.

There was a 4th layer, only oily, which was discarded.

Here are my questions: does really pure DMT crystals have a smell? Is this smell related to others alkaloids, precipitating faster than DMT?
 
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I thought it was principally made of vegetal oils, since I haven't defated before to basify. I nevertheless discarded the oily residue after having performed 4 recrystallizations, in order to pull as much alkaloids as possible. The oily residue was very limited in quantity, perhaps between 50 and 100mg, I didn't weight it. I asked myself afterward if it wasn't some kind of jim-jam but since I only used naphta, I tought it was impossible :oops: . Was it?
 
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So, there are some strange results I would like to share with you, in order to have your opinion...

I gave, today, a test to a sample of the 2 top layers (crystal clear and yellow):

- With 20mg of the yellow stuff, inhaled in one toke with GVG, I had a very pleasant experience, undeniably, psychedelic, although not a breakthrough. I felt merged with a kind of loving power, seeing how, when we act in agreement with it, we contribute to improve well-being of our social environement at large. This lasted 5 minutes, perhaps a little bit more, with a warm afterglow of 20 to 25 minutes. In short, something typical, for me at least, in this range of dosage.

- 3 hours later, I inhaled 25mg of the crystal clear layer and was very surprised to stay with eyes open, seated, with only few effects (nevertheless I felt them quite clearly) and for a very short period (perhaps 5 to 8 minutes, with almost no afterglow).

The set and setting were the same for these two experiences. The time interval between the two tokes allow me to think tolerance isn't involved in the light effect of the second toke... I will try to vaporise it first next time to see if it replicates this curious thing.

Please feel free to give your opinions/experiences if this is something you are familiar with!

Thanks
 
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Noisy said:
I thought it was principally made of vegetal oils, since I haven't defated before to basify. I nevertheless discarded the oily residue after having performed 4 recrystallizations, in order to pull as much alkaloids as possible. The oily residue was very limited in quantity, perhaps between 50 and 100mg, I didn't weight it. I asked myself afterward if it wasn't some kind of jim-jam but since I only used naphta, I tought it was impossible :oops: . Was it?
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There was likely a lot of potential in that goo, but we've all made similar mistakes - in the future, save anything that comes out of your evaporation containers except for anything irrevocably contaminated.

Most stuff can be cleaned further if the consistency is not desirable, but there are many alkaloids in MHRB, and the oil likely contains a very different proportion of some compared to the crystal.
 
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I've never worked with MHRB, but from my exp the goo makes for a longer trip.

Now I'm curious about this, as the layers you describe are exactly what I get from evapping an ACRB extraction. Possibly you had acacia that had somehow been mistaken somewhere along the line as MHRB?
 
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I've never worked with MHRB, but from my exp the goo makes for a longer trip.

Now I'm curious about this, as the layers you describe are exactly what I get from evapping an ACRB extraction. Possibly you had acacia that had somehow been mistaken somewhere along the line as MHRB?
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I doubt this was ACRB. Never done an extraction on Acacia but without defating, there was really few oil (as I said, perhaps 100mg compared to 2g of cristal clear spice and about half a gram of coloured spice). Nevertheless, I will give Acacia a try when I will be in need to reload my spice supply (certainly in one or two years:lol: ). The wider alkaloids spectrum intrigues me!
 
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