am i doing something wrong?

[Olibaba]

Ok so i discoved dmt about 4 weeks ago and since then i have done it alot mabye had about 4 nights off over the time ive done in about 6-7g, i feel like i may be doing it too much but i am yet to have any negative effects on the contary it has had only positive effects on my day to day life.

I started off using an eagle bill vaporizer but couldnt handle the taste of spice on its own so i tried using my lotus vaporizer through a water bong, i put one brass screen with a little bit of weed then on top of that two more screens more weed dmt then a top layer of weed, this seems to stop any leaking through to the water

so my question is this firstly im sure im going to get people telling me that im abusing it could you tell me what negative effects i should expect from doing so thus giving me a reason to stop, secondly i would like to know how effective you think my vaping method is i have read good things about the vapour genie but carnt find much on the lotus although comparing them i carnt see much difference, finaly i know ive been using it alot but its my understanding that tolerence resets after about an hour but the doses im using to breakthrough are like 120mg to 180mg so i think i must be doing something wrong ive used an a/b extraction then freeze percipitated out the dmt wich comes out white im prity average build weigh around 80kg although i have been taking aniracetam, ginko and a vit b complex for about 5 months would that have any effect on dose required??

thanks for any help you guys can offer

 

[Enoon]

It could be that you are vaping it ok, but the bong has a very long pathway from where the vapor is generated to where it ends in your mouth/airways, which gives the dmt lots of surface area to condense on before it reaches you. So you may be losing some valuables on the way.

Plus, just consider the amount of air you have to suck in through the bong before the vapor can even begin to enter your mouth - half a breath will be just pure air. If you pause to exhale and inhale the vapor again you're giving the dmt more time to condense again. Even with the GVG what worked best for me was getting it a bit warm before use so the sides wouldn't catch my DMT before reaching my lungs. I used doses as low as 30mg to break through with the GVG. To warm it up I used to put it next to my old laptop ventilation where really hot air would come out. My newer netbook doesn't warm up the same way...

I don't know what other issues there could be. My advice would be to use a shorter pipe. I'm surprized you couldn't handle the taste of spice on its own - I've found the taste to be quite smoothe and subtle if not burned. Perhaps you were heating it up to much? Even through a vaporizer it can still be burned and then it's really yuck and hurts even.

As for overdoing, I couldn't say. certainly you are using a lot, but lots of people do with good results, others not so good results. Just make sure to do a reality check now and then. You know what they say, sometimes less is more - giving yourself time to integrate phases of heavy use (or even single trips) can be even more rewarding and revealing than the time during these experiences. But sometimes taking successive trips is important too, to some kind of internal process that you are working on. It's important to get a sense for when to pause and when to keep going. But when that is, only you can know for sure.

 

[Olibaba]

thanks for the speedy reply when i use the bong i take three big draws in before i empty the bong so the bong is filled with vapour but i hadnt thought about the vapour crystalizing on the glass i wil try it with a shorter bong do you think if i put the bong in the oven at say 60 degrees this would stop any of the dmt from sticking to the sides?

 

[locojuiceman]

Yeah I agree on the vapor condensing on the bong, thereby reducing the effects of it by the time it gets to your lungs. In My Dreams I use a stem. You know, those considered to be 'crack pipes'? I've had some pretty blown out experiences using it. I didn't think of it until reading this post but it's most likely due to it being such a short distance from 'Deemsters' to 'Mouth' ! Oh, and the RESIN scraped after using it for [[ In my case, a couple weeks ]] a while? It took My HEAD OFF ! I LOVED IT but, "WHOAAAA Nelly Whooooooaa "
As far as 'Abusing DMT', I suppose it CAN be abused but in my experience it was 'The Entities' in the DMT or Spiritual 'Realms' that told Me this, not someone else. They told Me to 'Do some Good With yourself before coming back here" or something like that. In short, they told me to get my attitude adjusted. I've had quite a few times where I went into it apprehensive and the 'entities' actually got in my face when I was too 'reserved' to Smile...then they'd do all kinds of silly things, gyrating and undulating, making silly faces and what-not..until I Smiled. They've made me burst out laughing at times. Thats one reason I Believe DMT to propel the Individual into 'The Spirit Dimension' [[ When taken in threshold doses that is ]] and that these experiences cannot possibly be all 'subconscious' activity...no way. Some of the experiences I cannot have POSSIBLY come up with on My own and I'm a very Creative kinda guy with high IQ so...no way is it all in 'The Mind'.
It is said that People use Drugs to 'Escape Reality'. Well, I say that 'Reality IS [[ a part of ]] Entheogen's [[ Plant 'Drugs', not pharmaceuticals ]] and they make Life more Interesting and even more Bearable. TOGETHER We COMPLIMENT 'Reality'.
Why do the starving kids in Bolivia huff glue? It takes hunger and depression away for the moment. It's an epidemic and very sad.
The Middle East has so much Opium they tame their Elephants with it and quiet their Infants...why are they so 'Trouble ridden' then? I think it's because We USE them not for the People they are but for what they HAVE: Poppies and OIL.
It's a shame because instead of BLESSING with these Plant Allies, Mankind has taken instead to CONNIVING one another, using the allies as the 'Means' towards greed and practically all the other 'Ills' of 'Civilized Society'.
What I'm saying is that I think Plant 'Drugs' were put here for Our Use. I think we are related to them in some way, since we have receptors in Our Brains which specifically interlock with plant 'molecules' and no other.
I think they are MUCH more enjoyable when used not for 'Escape' but for the Enhancement' of an already Satisfied [[ To some degree ]] Living Situation. Or, I think they 'Mirror' the 'Soul' pretty well, like, if we have deep down problems inside, they come out when we use the plant drugs. Even forcing One to either deal with it and resolve the issue or go mad trying to avoid it.
I don't know though. Life is certainly more fun WITH them than without them.
'Reality is a Greater Landscape filled with Sunbursts and Circus Acts but when giving Peanuts to The Elephants who are craving Opium, don't be surprised if they sit on you. Know what I mean?' - Me [[ A little bit of analogy there ...sorry ]]