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Spock's Brain

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This morning I sat down alone and smoked (for me) a huge hit of white powder crystals. The amount was about the size of 4-5 peas squashed together. I don't have a scale. The smoke was thick and heavy, my plan going in was to make it a 2 hitter, but... that didn't work out as planned, about 70% in I was like, "OH SHIT...," I smoked the whole amount in one hit. After 30 seconds or so, I rolled off the couch onto the floor. I found myself getting "pulled away from the 3-D world." It was as if the physical dimensions that we normally understand had formed several flat panels, or criss cross symetrical planes, and they were intersecting me. I was floating within them, above the floor, above my body. And then another inexplicable vector opens up, and I start getting pulled towards it, technologicaly melting,shifting, floating into like a "4th spatial dimension." First I'm floating on a geometrical lattice work of 3D, and then I'm getting pulled away with it into the 4D.?.?... And then that's it... I return from this peak of the experience, and have a longer than previous coming down ride with feeling normal, but then time distortion, and more waves of post trip tripping. I go outside, and I'm like... "OH SHIT!," and then I throw up, and then I run to the toilet, and I throw up some more. "4D motion sickness?" And I think to myself, "OK, that's nothing to toy with!" And I feel like I've been clean purged. IS THIS GETTING CLOSE TO A BREAKTHRU?
 
wow ! .. you're trying hard .>! puking aside, look at what you got ... Isn't that it..!? ... expecting something else..?... just a suggestion, try to not 'try' so hard next time, go for the same one-lungful' dose ... and do a syrian rue seed extract ... that'll loosen your 3 dimemsional fabric !~
 
I've gotten some syrian rue seeds, but I havn't quite decided what to do with them yet. On the evening following the above episode, I awoke in bed and was alarmed, as I had felt that I had just again re-emerged from that "4-D space," like I had been smoking DMT in my dreams... I laid face down in bed and yelled out "OH SHIT!!!" Thanks for your great comment EKB... :)
 
Nope, good news: that's not breakthrough material. Breakthrough feels like you are traveling 1000 miles an hour through space time. I'd also say characteristics involve the feeling you are being shown or taught something and that you are witnessing something most humans perhaps were not 'meant to'. Breakthrough literally means holy crap, i've broken through to the other side of The Truth. At least that's my take on it.

Without even asking what you are using the fact smoke is thick but no hyperspace leads me to believe you are burning the spice too soon, with the flame.

Swim never broke through until he got a round glass bulb pipe in which the flame cannot touch the spice, only heat it slowly... even then he ensures the flame is away from the bulb. The smoke is very very thin... not a big cloud like he used to get... but a slow thin stream for 20+ seconds. It really makes a huge difference I cannot stress it enough, swim can use 1/2 of what he used to but reach 10x the distance.
 
Yeh, I never thought it was, but perhaps headed in that direction... but tell me more about smoking it, and how you do it. I do use a glass bulb, were the fire cannot touch it. Then I put the lighter right under it. Does it make a difference if I go slow? Why? I want to try a smaller amount and then heat it as gradually as possible and draw it in as slowly as possible to test what you say, as opposed to an explosion of vapor.
 
that actually sounds like a breakthrough to me. Any nonphysical non space or
actually just anything beyond the typical crysanthemum pattern, and or elf room I would consider hyperspace.

that means closed eye all immersive experiences beyond your typical googley-eyed idiots slowly dancing.

sorry guys, your not idiots. I love you really.
 
p.s I wouldn't consern yourself with what is a breakthrough and what isn't a breakthrough.

if it was good for you? Great! if it wasn't? do it again.

hehe, even the elves are fun. Holy shit even the smell is fun :D haha, just smoke it for the flavour! lolol
 
p.s I actually find it is more about intent. How hard you toke determines how far you go, like a rubber band. above a certain amount, (pea sized, maybe a big pea or a kidney bean) makes no difference.
 
shamans who have taken enough ayahuasca don't need to take it after enough uses anymore. they can talk with the spirits all the time whenever they want to. in the western world somebody like that would be probably called schizophrenic or crazy. -if only they knew.. in my opinion every psychiatrist should have had a DMT and salvia breakthru at least once. just to see what the mind is capable of.
 
Seriously! That's a fantastic suggestion and it would help them understand so much better. It's incredible and impossible to fully explain to another human being what you witnessed and experienced, and they will have some doubts. Like you said cheech, it's incredible what the mind is capable of. It'd be like if I took a bath, and someone tried to convince me later that there was no water so my bath was imaginary! How could it have been? I experienced the bath every way I possibly could, and to top it all of, I'm clean! Haha.

One thing that makes me want to go back, is that I was transported completely, into a different room. I barely got a look around before reality meltdown, but it was absolutely real. It wasn't psychedelic yet. I still had my usual frame of mind for a few seconds, it was an entirely alien room that I can't even describe or really remember well. Then I sort of melted into hyperspace. I use the word melted because there isn't a word to describe it, but that comes close. Turning from solid to a liquid, in a way, almost. Sigh. Impossible to explain.

I'd describe a breakthrough as having an entirely out of body experience, with sensations felt by at least all 5 senses. Maybe it opens a 6th sense that we haven't evolved enough to comprehend, because it's so much more than just the 5 senses. I truly envy you guys that can stay in reality when you're dreaming.
 
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Yeh, I never thought it was, but perhaps headed in that direction... but tell me more about smoking it, and how you do it. I do use a glass bulb, were the fire cannot touch it. Then I put the lighter right under it. Does it make a difference if I go slow? Why? I want to try a smaller amount and then heat it as gradually as possible and draw it in as slowly as possible to test what you say, as opposed to an explosion of vapor.
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putting the lighter right under it you are likely burning it.. is the residue left in the bulb black?
i find slow and steady to be the best with base-type pipes. I never get closer than an inch away from the flame and I only bring it that close once it really starts to vape.
that said, I found the lightbulb method to have too much surface area to vape it well without burning it. finding a proper basepipe improved my experiencs exponentially.
 
This pipes got some black residue in it. On other occasions I've discovered that I've vaporized it and left completely clean glass. I wonder what happens if you heat it to much, as opposed to "just enough." On some occasions I've felt a melting, falling backwards sensation. Other times it's like "electric waves" transformation of time-space consciessness.
 
that said, I found the lightbulb method to have too much surface area to vape it well without burning it. finding a proper basepipe improved my experiencs exponentially.
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SWIM uses a small lightbulb (1 inch diameter) and find it works quite well.
 
make a machine
for real
swim used to smoke it in a light bulb
a shooter (crack pipe )
till one night i just made one
you will get there every time
there real easy to make aswell
still havent tried a bong yet but ima going to next
 
swim thinks the best way to breaktrough is a water bong. Swim loves smokin it out of a bong on top of some herb. a couple of huge rips andim in awhole new world. swim tried a light bulb once and nothing happend really. dont knowwhatwent wrong. loaded about 100mg and heated it up. took like 4 super harsh hits.nothing happend really slight buzz at most. though maybe it was a bad batch or something so swim then loaded just a little in a bong about 25mg and took one rip and tripped way harder. maybe swim needs a reall shooter. the lightbulb still has abunch of spice in it.so ya by the way think whats left in it can be scraped and recrystalized?
 
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