Im really intereseted in the red man..havent taken that journey yet but I plan on it soon..I have told it can take you on incredible journeys if you take enough..buts its more of a dissociative psychedelic..I have a freind who is really into norse mythology and he assciiates this mushroom with Oden..he sadi it took him to the underworld..not sure what that really means, he didnt go into much detail.