jamie said:
bufotenine and 5meoDMT are definatly not the same. For as much as you hear people claiming to dislike 5meoDMT, far more people IMO are going to dislike bufotenine. They are like complete opposites on the tryptamine scale..bufotneine is largely just visuals/visions lacking any relevant mental effects and tons of nausea and toxic feeling constriction. It is not very useful for doing healing or therapeutic work IMO. 5meoDMT is described as much less visual than DMT but extremely mentally psychedelic. WIth 5meoDMT you get ego death I guess( I never tried it)..but with bufotenine(which I have worked with extensively) I cant ever imagine having true ego death..even the really high breakthrough style doses you just have really detailed visions but the body load feels so toxic and there is none of that divine psychological/spiritual connection to the visions like I experience with DMT,psilocybin etc...you just feel sort of like you have sleep deprivation like your all fuzzy mentally.
I DID have 3 amazingly fantasmagoric experiences on snuff made from Yopo(A.Peregrina) seeds.
Not sure if I can say it's got healing potential or not: I only did it 3 times, but each time was amazingly visionairy, allowing me to see many humanoid spirits/beings all around me. Children running around me playing, a man on a piano stool in white tuxido pants, a blond european woman wearing her hair in a long braided tail seemingly from the past(1500 -1800)..etc The difference was that I saw these spirits in the Physical world, as if Hyperspace overlapped with this physical reality to produce a hybrid reality.
The last of my 3 Yopo sessions ended in a breakthrough into a forrest like place(in hyperspace I suppose) with some sort of festivity going on. I first entered a tunnel that made a Y-split: One way was safely back to physical reality & the other way was straight down the rabbit whole. You know: a blue pill, red pill moment. Needless to say I chose the equivalent of "red pill" in that scenario. I broke through into a non-physical realm. Seemingly a festival in an open spot in the forest.
Lots of stands and tents and people wearing party hats who are desperately trying to grasp my attention as I entered their scene. When I did give them my focussed attention they cheered and got me to dance with them.
Sounds like Yopo defenitely has potential to heal, but I can't say wether that is attributable to Yopo's 5-MeO-DMT content, it's NN,DMT content, it's Bufotenin content or
the combination of the 3. Yopo is known to contain all 3; Mostly Bufo, but also 5-MeO in lesser amounts and NN,DMT in trace amounts. I read that Yopo seeds' Bufotenin content can
be as high as 12% so most effects are likely attributable to Bufotenin. Perhaps there is something altered about Bufotnin when the pulverised Yopo is mixed with water & edible lime.
But Sonoran Dessert toad venom containing 15% 5-MeO-DMT? Well FOOOOK me, that's a high percentage! Defenitely sounds worthwhile, especially when you know how much more potent 5-MeO-DMT is than NN,DMT. An active dose of 5-MeO-DMT is...what... 10 miligrams? I thought I remember reading that 5-MeO is more potent than NN, though I'm not sure.
Well anyways, Bufo Alvarius toads seem the way to go. The gentle milking you described seems fine to the toad. I'm guessing the toad can't exude alot of venom before it's glands are empty and need to refill, so it'll be a matter of patience and often milking.
Is the biosynthetic pathway by which Bufo toads metabolise nutrients in their diet into the 5-MeO-DMT in their Venom known? If so I guess you could optimise our toad's diet for it to produce Venom with significantly higher percentages of 5-MeO-DMT. Fascinating toad.