anyone know a good kratom extract tek?

[ohayoco]

Like if you were drinking it in the park in the autumn and one of your mates crumbled up a dead leaf into it when you weren't looking!

 

[Dwhitty76]

It happens all the time, thats what friends are for.

 

[SoCal]

SWIM has been reading up on kratom. It seems most people drink it as a tea, but how about just putting the powder in capsules and ingesting it that way...would that do the trick?

Also, SWIM is not much of a tea drinker. He's curious how you go about making the tea? Do you need to get empty teabags or is there a contraption made for this that makes life easier?

 

[reflexion]

SWIM has been reading up on kratom. It seems most people drink it as a tea, but how about just putting the powder in capsules and ingesting it that way...would that do the trick?

yeah, but it would take longer to take effect compared to a tea.

Also, SWIM is not much of a tea drinker. He's curious how you go about making the tea?

just simmer or steep the powdered leaves in hot water, then strain and drink..maybe add some sweetener.

Do you need to get empty teabags or is there a contraption made for this that makes life easier?

french press

 

[exjordanary]

i love kratom. i use it daily, but i use capsules. i have tried all extracts, and find they are all a waste of money. many people try the extracts and assume that kratom is useless. many people try to smoke it and find it is useless. i tried smoking it when i first got interested. did nothing. my advice is go with regular grade powdered "indo" kratom ( a quarter kilo for 50 - 75 bucks on ebay ) and get a little capsule machine (10 on ebay) with some 00 capsules (1000 of them for 10 bucks). i take 5-8 grams at a time, sometimes with a little diphenhydramine before hand. very opiate like. just like taking a some hydrocodone. a 00 capsule holds 600 mg of material. i take 8 or 9 capsules about twice a day usual doseage. i have been using it for about 6 months now no adverse reactions whatsoever.

Actually, i have a very bad back (4 bulging discs, bad scoliosis) and this works WONDERS for my pain. i have more energy, and i look forward to more things, instead of dreading them because of pain and fatigue. i have tried the major suppliers (IAS BBB KTB, etc.) and find that regular indo kratom powdered on ebay from "exjordanary" is by far best bang for your buck. like i said extracts, resins, smoking, etc generally does not work nearly as good, unless you have a confirmed good quality source for the "resin pies" these are full spectrum with my understanding.

also if you do some research you will find that kratom contains several other alkaloids that have anti-inflammatory, anti-oxidant, and many many other properties. It is my opinion that reports of health problems linked to kratom are from extracts, which maybe have toxic residues or something else in them. reports for health with plain leaf powdered are almost non-existent, even prolonged daily use for decades.

edit: however if you must find some sort of extract, go for 7-OHM. it may be the only one "worth it" it is 7-hydroxymitragynine. this is that morphine-like alkaloid. but, price per dose will end up being far more than finding some prescription pain pills that will work just as good and cost less. i have also heard that this alkaloid is very difficult to isolate, and is not water soluble.

HEY, THIS IS "EXJORDANARY", THANKS FOR THE COMPLIMENT!!!

NO SPAMMING PLEASE

 

[skunkjar]

Well, I guess my first post should be about something I actually know about. I know about kratom, I have been researching it since 2002. The best way to start is bali, it's cheap and works well. It is this skunk's opinion that the pricier varieties don't justify the extra cost, and most "extracts" arent worth the solvents they are made with (excluding alkaloid enhanced leaf products). I'd start at 2g leaf and work up from there. After over a year of daily use of bali and alkaloid enhanced leaf blends, I still get good effects from 5g bali. I wouldn't bother with tea either it seems that some of the alkaloids don't make it in to solution. The best way is to just eat it. I like to mix it with peanut butter because it is easier for me to swallow balls of peanut butter/kratom powder than to just gulp down hydrophobic leaf powder. It is almost like extended release when consumed in peanut butter. There is a cocoa extract that goes VERY well with a dose of kratom... There is an amazing vendor who carries many custom alkaloid enhanced kratom blends, and he has good prices on MHRB too... On the subject of alkaloids, couldn't an A/B -> wash or STB tek make a reasonably pure product from M. speciosa? Not a chemist, so I'm askin'. PM me if you want the vendor.

 

[USEit~r~loseIT]

:!: let me say first that i only post when i can say something new,
1 kratom is truly misunderstood
2 stay away from kratom if you dont want your opiate problems to come back
3 kratom is not a coca cola replacement, ie; best used once weekly

that being said i used kratom every day in 2008 and took detailed observations on all the diffrent strains and modes of admistration.

as for strains, like its been said, dont waste money at a head shop, by online
and only buy if the sellar describes (regardless of strain; thai, malay, bali, meang da,) that his/her kratom is sustianable harvested form-OLDER trees, perferbly the oldest on the planet, only a few sites even mention that, and that the leaves are hand seleceted.

and heres my fave tek- beats everything
step 1. boil water- 4 cups
step 2. once boiling reduce from rolling boil to bubbling boil,
step 3. add 5 grams thia, or seven grams bali for one good dose (this will be a good one)
step 4. add one shot glass full of concentrated lemon, like for mixed drinks,
step 5. once your 4 cups is one cup, filter the kratom out, cheese cloth is best, and drink

this tek gives the full effects with out taking a full does, a truly opiate does is like 14 gms for me, and often times i puke trying to eat that much

my best experinces with kratom started about noon, with one dose, and then a second, once i knew i wouldnt puke, and continuing with the third once the second was adiquitly down, an by now one should be ready to lye down, and perpare....to find out why think kratom is mis under stood, seems to me salvia and kratom must have gone to the same prep-school, word to the wise

 

[USEit~r~loseIT]

i forgot, the lemon juice is the key, other wise, i agree with the other post that the tea is pretty limp dick and taste terrible,
citic acid works well to, but you need the acid to coax the magic out,
my tex taste terrible, btw, but is so effective,

 

[fuckyourmother]

goin get raped!

 

[arimane]

Didn't want to bump an old topic, but better this than open a new one, I guess.

I have much kratom wich I don't use, since I keep it like really occasional material (used twice in a year or so). I feel that keeping it there to do nothing is a waste, so I thought to play a bit with it.

Do you think a double acetone wash-separation-acetone evapping would leave me with something active?
Or I should do an A/B with DCM, as phlux does?
Don't really like to mess around with DCM.


Thanks for eventually replying

Ari

 

[Phlux-]

do a stb using naptha - and do a good many pulls - low seeming yeild - staunch product.

 

[Phantastica]

do a stb using naptha - and do a good many pulls - low seeming yeild - staunch product.

can u answer a few quick questions:
1. what bases can be used?
2. what ph?
3. what do u do after the naptha pull? evap? clean?
4. how do u purify?
5. would xylene/limo be more efficient?
thanks

 

[Phlux-]

1 : iv used caustic soda - slowly tho - maybe try sodium carbonate first - do some pulls then go to lye and do more pulls
2 : so varying ph as above
3 : evap
4 : try wash with minimal ice cold benzine maybe ?
5 : try xylene - i think i tried that with fasa to crash out fumarates - i could be wrong tho.

 

[Phantastica]

^^awesome thanks:d