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Are " entities " in the DMT real or just a drug trip illusion?

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pelican burger

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I know this question is impossible to get a definitive answer on, But it's a subject i still find utterly fascinating and am curious. And I'd love to hear your guys thoughts on the subject.

I've had at least 100 DMT trips, Luckily most of them were break through trips.

From the get go my very first trip and trips involved seeing and being communicated too by entities - What would happen is they would be talking amongst themselves and i would be overhearing their conversations. Every now and then they'd look at me and examine me and be strangely curious as to how i ended up in the DMT realm.

What's amazing is that entities seem like living sentient beings that exist outside our reality in another dimension.

After certain trips I've been convinced that the entities are real sentient intelligent curious beings, As time has gone by and I'd have more experience in the DMT realm, I'd walk away feeling as though perhaps certain entities are just illusions conjured up by the subconscious mind.

At this point, I honestly don't know what to think.

I definitely believe in life after death, And with entities - I can't say in certainty that they are just non significant hallucinations and nothing else.

What are your guys thoughts ?

Ever since i was a little kid the concept of alternate realities and dimensions was utterly fascinating to me - Which is one reason why i love DMT so much.

Oh, And another curious tidbit for you guys. Ever since i was a young child and before i could form fully articulated thoughts and before i could speak.

Even though my family was non religious, I used to pray and call out and ask primal questions to the universe.

( it would happen when I'd be scared and traumatized from domestic violence in the home )

Anyways, I'm definitely not looking to convert anybody - I just think some people might find this interesting.

But when i was super young and I'd pray ( and when i say pray, It was more just me thinking in my head and asking primal questions concerning life and the existence i was experiencing ) .

But something that would happen is after I'd pray, I'd get some response from something i have always assumed was God.

I'd basically get told " Don't be scared, We knew each other before you were born here in this reality and existence. Before this current life you are experiencing, You weren't scared or confused, You were already a fully formed being "

During these moments, I would feel a celestial magical feeling calm come over my body.

It would feel as though golden electricity was in the air and my body was vibrating and in tune with it.

The reason why I'm bringing this up is because when i first started using DMT, The feeling and afterglow I'd feel was extremely reminiscent of the feeling I'd get praying to God as a child and hearing a reassuring reply.

Just to be clear, I don't mind if people are atheists or think I'm silly for ever believing in some type of God. - I have researched about religion a lot and am very aware that some feel as that it's only purpose is to manipulate and control mankind, And that many wars have been fought in the name of religion.

Personally i feel as though discounting it all together would be throwing the baby out with the bath water. ( But anyways, I'm not looking for a debate or to convert anyone ) .

It's just extremely cool to me how familiar and safe DMT trips can feel like.

And after my first ever DMT trip, The next day when i woke up my mind was flooded with images and memories of dreams I'd had when i was a kid.

( some believe that DMT gets released in our brains when we sleep, So that could explain why i was able to remember all my childhood dreams. )

Okay, So entities was the main point of this post. I won't go into depth with it hear but i also find the Nazi vrill society and their experiments with hallucinogenic drugs like DMT to be an utterly fascinating intriguing part of history.

The black sun and lore surrounding it is also something i find super interesting.

And just to close with, I've been an aspiring artist all my life - A musician and painter, I write poems and have written short stories and stuff. But after i first tried DMT, My creativity and inspiration went up a trillion %

Us humans are a lucky bunch, We are all given amazing brains - And i honestly believe that DMT is way way way more than just a drug to trip too. Definitely not a party drug.

It's been a miracle in my life and if anyone is undecided on whether they should try it or not then my answer would be a emphatic yes !! Especially if you've ever suffered from anxiety or clinical depression. ( maybe if you have schizophrenia or other extreme mental illnesses then it might not be for you. I could be wrong but it's just a personal hunch.

Death by amazement is something every person needs to experience at least once before they die. And i love how doctors are now using DMT and psyolocybim mushrooms on cancer patients and stuff.

It's an amazing time to be alive that's for sure ^_^
 
I just read the title (im about to read the full thing) but imho that question is squashed with the following: Define real

Ok ok, i dont have as much as experience as you but after i smoked 5-meo-dmt what my world and reality was, was shattered into thousands of pieces realizing that the concept "real" and "reality" was infinit , the place i went on my 2 breakthroughs felt as real as this reality but more pure and the time i had a sort of breakthrough on marijuana and met someone somewhere, that someone felt present, in any way and form you'd call real.
So in my opinion us humans arent capable of truly define real because we dong even know what we are, so if we dont know what we are, why would we be able to define and assure someone's o somethings else existence

Pd: English isnt my first language and i usally get carried away while writing, if theres any question o something to clarify just ask away lol
 
Well yes, I pointed out that it's kind of an impossible question to answer.

I think the most concise way to word it would be.

During DMT trips, Do people just have drug induced trips or do we access another dimension.

Are entities sentient and self aware or are they just our subconscious projecting these entities to help guide and cope us through our DMT trips ?

Because if our brains can conjure up entities as a way to guide us through our trips, Then damn, The human brain is even more amazing than i thought.

Another way to say it more clearly would be " when you have a DMT trip and see and talk to entities, Once your trip is over, Do the entities you saw still exist in their own realm of existence or do they just cease to exist once the DMT trip is over ? "

And if entities are nothing more than drug induced illusions and nothing more, And if entities really are just our minds hallucinating imaginary non existent beings to help guide us through the trip, Then it's a frickin amazing coincidence that the human brain seems readily prepared for consuming one of the worlds strongest physcadelic substances.

I imagine that many people who believe in alien life outside of earth would believe wholeheartedly that entities we see during DMT trips are real in the sense that they exist whether we are able to see them or not or whether we exist or not.

Again, I'm not set out on finding and hearing a conclusive answer, I'm just genuinely curious what other DMT users have to say regarding this interesting subject.

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My theory might be kind of dumb for some people but from my experience with the entitie i encountered i think they are real and not only that, the so called ghosts i saw as a child where in a way similar to the entitie i saw, and now that im writing this i realize i acted in a similar way when i was in that other realm. I wanted to see "it" and touch something to validate the existence of what i was living, same as these so called ghosts they use to want to see me,touch me or something else.
Maybe they are other beings under the effect of something similar to our psychedelics.
 
You know about schrodingers cat being dead and alive at the very same moment? Maybe the entities are a bit like that cat. As in, both real as well as not real.
 
What you perceive as reality is just your current story.
There is more to existence/being than just materialistic world.

When you take psychedelics, you either stimulate, alter or/and shut off brain regions
Which help your true self perceive this reality as baseline.

Just my theory :)
 
I know I'll lose some respect for saying this, But i grew up as a Christian.

And with DMT, When i first tried it, It heavily reminded me of the feeling I'd get when I'd be a little kid praying under my bed when my parents were fighting.

I'd get filled with a golden electricity ( perhaps in timesbof extreme emotional trauma the human brain releases DMT or other chemicals to help us as a self defense mechanism. )

I remember as a kid praying and I'd close my eyes and see visuals and stuff.

( i mention that because someone in the thread mentioned about entities possibly being ghosts )

And funnily enough, During my first DMT trip. I remember waking up on a beach on mars at some point. I'd keep getting blasted with 2001 a space oddysea waves of colour and light ( intense doesn't come close to describing it )

But during the waves i heard a voice calling out, I remember thinking " i know that voice !! "

Then i met and saw my mum who passed away about 4 months earlier.

She told me she was safe and happy and pain free and that i just need to try my best to be the best version of myself possible and that i need to make each day better than the past. If i did that then life would work out fine.


--- Sorry I've gone somewhat off topic, But the person talking about ghosts made me wanna mention my story.

And thanks for all the links and comments guys,I appreciate your input.

Cheers ✌🐧
 
pelican burger said:
I know I'll lose some respect for saying this, But i grew up as a Christian.

And with DMT, When i first tried it, It heavily reminded me of the feeling I'd get when I'd be a little kid praying under my bed when my parents were fighting.

I'd get filled with a golden electricity ( perhaps in timesbof extreme emotional trauma the human brain releases DMT or other chemicals to help us as a self defense mechanism. )

I remember as a kid praying and I'd close my eyes and see visuals and stuff.

( i mention that because someone in the thread mentioned about entities possibly being ghosts )

And funnily enough, During my first DMT trip. I remember waking up on a beach on mars at some point. I'd keep getting blasted with 2001 a space oddysea waves of colour and light ( intense doesn't come close to describing it )

But during the waves i heard a voice calling out, I remember thinking " i know that voice !! "

Then i met and saw my mum who passed away about 4 months earlier.

She told me she was safe and happy and pain free and that i just need to try my best to be the best version of myself possible and that i need to make each day better than the past. If i did that then life would work out fine.


--- Sorry I've gone somewhat off topic, But the person talking about ghosts made me wanna mention my story.

And thanks for all the links and comments guys,I appreciate your input.

Cheers ✌🐧
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You don't lose anybody's respect. At least not mine.

And i can totally see why you wanted to share this story.
 
Do people exist outside of yourself or inside yourself? Both of you co-dependently arise together. In other words you are a like a mirror reflecting him and he is like a mirror reflecting you. Its the same for entities you would meet in other realms.
 
I saw a room with white tile floors. It was like a spaceship and there was a circle window looking out at dark space. The female wearing a pink one piece space suit lied in the fetal position in the right far end corner of the room. She had a pink mask but I still felt she was female. As soon as I appeared she sensed me and woke up startled and agitated and stared at me. It cut to another scene... Whatever that was about the trip never resolved it for me.

Based on this vision I often time speculate that like Shroedingers cat, I am here and at somewhere else at the same time, and that me entering that state wakes up the entity which is like my guardian angel or something. And its sort of not planned for me to be there yet.

At other times I am greeted by crowds.

The question is; What is it? What in god's name is it?

I have faith that a wholistic understanding of life, love, and all arts and sciences, may render an insecently seeking brain capable of a breakthrough which could lead to an understanding of what the hell is going on in these trips.

I am sure this endeavour can be acomplished given that much harder feats have been acomplished already (i,e. Davinci's drawings, Mars Rover, Discovery of penicilin.)

But for the moment no one has yet expressed an understading of these entity contact visions in a manner which is conclusive.

But is it possible to one day know it conclusivley? Thats the question. And its up to each one of us to meet the challenge of the question head on and discover for oneself if it is possible, and then come back to tell the story to all us curious travelers.
 
dragonrider said:
pelican burger said:
I know I'll lose some respect for saying this, But i grew up as a Christian.

And with DMT, When i first tried it, It heavily reminded me of the feeling I'd get when I'd be a little kid praying under my bed when my parents were fighting.

I'd get filled with a golden electricity ( perhaps in timesbof extreme emotional trauma the human brain releases DMT or other chemicals to help us as a self defense mechanism. )

I remember as a kid praying and I'd close my eyes and see visuals and stuff.

( i mention that because someone in the thread mentioned about entities possibly being ghosts )

And funnily enough, During my first DMT trip. I remember waking up on a beach on mars at some point. I'd keep getting blasted with 2001 a space oddysea waves of colour and light ( intense doesn't come close to describing it )

But during the waves i heard a voice calling out, I remember thinking " i know that voice !! "

Then i met and saw my mum who passed away about 4 months earlier.

She told me she was safe and happy and pain free and that i just need to try my best to be the best version of myself possible and that i need to make each day better than the past. If i did that then life would work out fine.


--- Sorry I've gone somewhat off topic, But the person talking about ghosts made me wanna mention my story.

And thanks for all the links and comments guys,I appreciate your input.

Cheers ✌🐧
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You don't lose anybody's respect. At least not mine.

And i can totally see why you wanted to share this story.
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Thanks buddy, I know it's a somewhat unpopular opinion, But I'm still a Christian. ( i don't really like bringing it up cos i know a lot of people think all religion is just in place to brainwash and manipulate and control the public ) .

But yh, Thank you.

And i hope anyone on the fence on whether they try DMT or not, That they could see my story and see how beautiful and beneficial the DMT realm can be.

But yes. I can remember many occasions of praying as a child and experiencing a drug free hallucinogenic type trip.

Like i said, Maybe it was God speaking to me, Or maybe the brain can do it as a self defense mechanism to deal with being a kid around extreme domestic violence and stuff.

The main trip I'd get as a kid was a feeling as if i was at one with the entire universe - Like the universe was broken down into particles and flowing through my veins. Like a magical golden electricity.

As a child I'd only have one entity I'd speak to ( God or whatever people think it may have been ) .

After trying DMT for the first time as an adult. The next day i remembered loads of childhood dreams and repressed memories and stuff. At this point my mind and soul felt strong and capable enough to deal with it all.

I understand that many may disagree heavily - But i feel as though DMT exists for a special purpose.

After mum died it was a miracle worker, She was my best friend - And yet after that first DMT trip i felt so so much more at peace with the situation.

And regarding DMT entities - I've seen robot workers in surgical masks with bug faces, I've seen Aztec kings and Gods. I've seen robot entities scanning me doing some type of soul medical test on me.

And regarding my Christianity - I definitely don't claim to know all the answers - There could be many different realities and Alternate dimensions - And if we do live in a simulation then maybe God is just the entity who created it. Idk.

As i continue to grow and learn as a human in this existence - my opinions and beliefs become more nuanced and multifaceted and more complex and detailed day by day.

It's an amazing time to be alive that's for sure.

Maybe when we die, Perhaps Heaven is just another dimension similar to the DMT realm ?

Perhaps the DMT realm is us humans being able to break in and access the place where the simulation was created ?? .

Who knows - Thanks again for all your replies and comments. :)
 
FranLover said:
I saw a room with white tile floors. It was like a spaceship and there was a circle window looking out at dark space. The female wearing a pink one piece space suit lied in the fetal position in the right far end corner of the room. She had a pink mask but I still felt she was female. As soon as I appeared she sensed me and woke up startled and agitated and stared at me. It cut to another scene... Whatever that was about the trip never resolved it for me.

Based on this vision I often time speculate that like Shroedingers cat, I am here and at somewhere else at the same time, and that me entering that state wakes up the entity which is like my guardian angel or something. And its sort of not planned for me to be there yet.

At other times I am greeted by crowds.

The question is; What is it? What in god's name is it?

I have faith that a wholistic understanding of life, love, and all arts and sciences, may render an insecently seeking brain capable of a breakthrough which could lead to an understanding of what the hell is going on in these trips.

I am sure this endeavour can be acomplished given that much harder feats have been acomplished already (i,e. Davinci's drawings, Mars Rover, Discovery of penicilin.)

But for the moment no one has yet expressed an understading of these entity contact visions in a manner which is conclusive.

But is it possible to one day know it conclusivley? Thats the question. And its up to each one of us to meet the challenge of the question head on and discover for oneself if it is possible, and then come back to tell the story to all us curious travelers.
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Very well said.

I'm surprised that there are artists who can visually portray images of what they see on trips.

Unfortunately the images don't come close to capturing the feeling of overwhelming bliss and amazement and the intelligence that the DMT realm has to offer.

Both myself and a friend had a similar experience after taking DMT, It unlocked our creativity big time. I can't stop making music and painting and writing poems and song lyrics.

Makes me believe that many great artists in history definitely partook in DMT or other hallucinagenic drugs.
 
I've said this to friends - But it would be cool if Elon musk or Zuckerburg could invent some way to record a persons DMT trips so you could re-live them or let friends see your trips.

Impossible i know ( And i only mentioned Zuckerburg cos of his interest in VR technology )


:)
 
AcaciaConfusedYah said:
My opinion: I think it's important to learn from your own experiences and trust yourself.

Take Care!
ACY
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With DMT there's no end to the utterly unique experiences to learn and grow from.

Cheers buddy.
 
😉 :thumb_up:

It just keeps getting wacky-er. But, have some fun with it. Push some boundaries. See what happens. If it was a "mistake" - that's ok. It's hard to really say "what" is going on, but as long as you look at any mistake as an experience to learn - then yes, life AND dmt start to make a lot more sense.

Cheers to you too!! Enjoy it!

Also - don't worry about gaining or losing respect for your religious choices. If they meet your needs, fine! It's not really anyone else's business whether you choose to believe something, or not. I used to worry about losing respect for NOT being religious. Now, i don't care what someone thinks of my beliefs. Until they live my life, or in my head, then how could they know why is it that I believe what I do? All they may hear or see is the filtered external.

All of our minds are filled with wonder. Words can say so much, yet so little.
 
I don't know that there is any point in arguing whether they are real in the way we think of things being real in the material world (because even that at the end of the day is just a model our conciousness creates) but I do personally tend toward them being some kind of archetype rather than free standing beings separate from ourselves living in another dimension of reality.. the archetypes almost seem like surrender-help tools for us.

I get this feeling that the whole dmt realm is the being... and when we partake in the experience we are invited momentarily to vibrate at the same frequency as that "being".. I guess its easier for me to take that viewpoint though as I never have more than one being its always the one intelligence waiting for me on the other side and I don't really feel as if it is inhabiting another realm, I feel like it IS the realm.. in that sense I get more of a non duel feeling from hyperspace these days even though it is abundant with visual material.. there is this feeling that everything in there is just an organ of a greater body
 
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