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Dimitri-Trance

Dimitri-Trance

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Ok....This is my first post
SWIM loves dimitri and is trying to breakthrough....
The last time he took it...it was about the size of a pencil eraser(alot)....
Swim took 3 large inhalations but this trip was like no other
Swim felt paralyzed....doing hand motions to try to have mercy to the gods but swim felt like if hes veins/arm nerves had poped and he felt like he was gonna have permanent problems with hes arms....no problems were latter found tho(after 15 minutes)....
As he finished inhaling with the method of a sandwich(calea zacatechichi).....he was breathing really deep and fast....this is what scared him....the thats when he realized he felt paralyzed
Not only that but he did not breakthrough
He just witness the colors in the first stages of dimitri

Before this experience Swim took the same amount and tripped more then ever
He saw the mandala sort of a clock image but did not gave way
Still it was the strongest experience ever
A spirit told swim he had to smoke more if he wanted to see the rest of them!
I heard that 50mg was the size of a kitchen match head....Swim inhaled about 4-5 of these sizes both times and DID NOT breakthrough....
swim does not want to feel paralyzed ever again tho...
 
I don't know that I've felt paralyzed per se.Definitely felt like there was no reason to worry about heartbeat and breathing, because the body took over.I think you are not letting it all go..have no expectations and smile..It will give you what it wants to.
 
Pencil erasor size dose? Not too sure about that, you can never be sure of the density of the Spice, even form the same pull, I might still have different density spice.

Get a scale so you know exactly how much your smoking.

You also got to let go try and relax you breathing somewhat, maybe do some breathing exersize berore takeoff.
And you also want to try and just let go, nothing bad will come from this.

And remember to smile.
 
get a scale that measures at least to 0,01g .. Crystals vary in density so size is very relative

How is SWIY smoking? Maybe the no-breakthrough is due to bad smoking method

As for the bad experience, it could be several things.. Some people feel that low doses are specially negative.. Also was the set and setting good?

Also, maybe a sitter would help, because it would get rid of the preocupation that something bad is happening to you, as there would be someone there making sure you are ok (and that for example your veins arent jumping out of your body :p ), so you know that its all just in your head, remember also that DMT is physically very safe, and you can 'let go' (which is a pre-requisite for having a really good trip)
 
Swim always practices on hes breathing and tries to calm hes heart....He is always successful to calm himself down.....He did it in hes room very relaxed with some santana music....he use calea zacatechichi as ash in a bong(sandwich methoed).....He always lets go and smiles...(i dont hink this is the case)....
 
hedcase said:
Do you always use music?It can be very distracting on DMT.
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Nowt wrong with music on voyages, just be careful what you put on!

I've had some very unsettling trips where music has manipulated the experience, but it has to be said it always added to the experience in an interesting way, even if it was difficult to deal with.
 
Ouch, you smoke it with calea? I find that stuff is a really harsh smoke. Parsley should be much easier on the lungs.

I'm afraid DMT will pretty much immobilise you while you're in hyperspace. You must accept it. Surrender and project love :)
 
Irrataion on the lungs is no big deal for me...I have leather lungs..lol
Accepting it is no big deal too man....I surrender to it...then I love it....then a make a devotion to it......
 
ohayoco said:
Ouch, you smoke it with calea? I find that stuff is a really harsh smoke. Parsley should be much easier on the lungs.
Parsley dmt parsley sanwich is absolutely the way to go. If I choose to smoke its the only way I smoke. Its 100% effective and not harsh.
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Sounds like too large of a dose.

Do get yourself a scale that measures mgs .001....even a .01 is better than trying to eyeball.

White Lotus is the least harsh herb I have found, and I've tried many, many herbs.

If you are looking for gentle herbs, go with the WHITE lotus...while not as tasty as it's brother the Blue Lotus, it is so much smoother. It actually feels like you are smoking thick air.
 
It does sound like a heavy dose.....but why dident i breakthrough with that much???
Im also not looking for any herbs....Any herb will be easy for me to inhale....thats not the problem
 
In my experience 'breaking through' is just as much about comfort, willingness to proceed, and other somewhat unpredictable factors as it is about dosage. Most people don't break through their first time- but don't let it discourage you or devalue the experience. Breakthrough experiences can be the some of the most enlightening, beautiful, magnificent moments of your life- they can also be utterly terrifying.

Sometimes just taking a bath is nicer than going deep sea diving :p

As for the paralysis, it was likely psychological. DMT does have an interesting body load, and in such a state any presumptions about a physical feeling may easily manifest themselves. Just relax into it, the vibes are all good in spice-land if you let them be.

If it happens again though, maybe consider purifying your extract with a sodium carbonate wash or the like- what was the source plant for your alkaloid?
 
MHRB........I tried another vaporization method and omg it worked so beautifully and painlessly....it was about 2-3 grains of rice size dose
Its been 1 day since this method.

Today i tried the light bulb method and I cannot believe it but I broke trough man!
Its a beautiful day to be alive!!!

P.S...NO ONE SHOULD TRY THE SANDWICH METHOD!...ITS SUPER WEAK COMPARED TO A REAL VAPORIZER.
 
Dimitri-Trance said:
Ok....This is my first post
SWIM loves dimitri and is trying to breakthrough....
The last time he took it...it was about the size of a pencil eraser(alot)....
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Thats huge. Do yourself a favor and buy some scales. You will never know your breakthrough dose or safe doses without one.
 
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