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machine elves and forum trolls.

Swim and others in his group have talked about how choice and freewill seem to be a theme in some of the deeper journeys. It can be quite like being thrown into the churning vortex, and physically you must yeild to the drug or fall down trying, but to say there is no control whatsoever is false in my experience.

Seems like you have a bit of a negative view about cultures outside your bubble, so wont even go into the positive/negative monopolar thing.

Realer than I am still in debate, but as real as, sure. Relead me to one of my favorate ponderings, used to use dreams as the compotition but dimitri provides yet another petri dish. If I can not tell which is realer, what does that say about what I consider reality? I think one of the most wonderful 'truths' about our current place in the universe is we can not truely be sure of anything.

Seems to me the oppisite in most cases. Most reports of aftereffects Ive read/heard claim marked antidepressive and calming effects for several days after, and a great sense of self/sapien/world/universe for a while after. Not in every case of course but in majoratity in my experience.

Smoking a low dose can be somewhat managable, but I agree an effective dose is overwelming, but thats one of the more intresting novelties, there is something more powerful than you and it's an innocent looking white powder.

Many things contributed to the cultures of early america, more likely the sacrifieces were a device of control, perhaps the cerimonies were influenced by plants containing DMT, as well as the many other psychotropics they consumed, but claiming DMT is the cause is like saying the kykeon directly lead to the formation of the United States.

We do have a few threads on the health effects and dangers of DMT. heh had to have an i told you so.

I am sure most here, before and after, poured over books articles journals and many many experience reports. Who doesnt love those train wrecks. Thats why the word evangelical was thrown about, the tone of the message. Many here would be happy to read your experiences or thoughs, but we did not come here for a dare meeting.

Being devoured dismembered or consumed, has been wrapped up in mysticism since before it was recorded, many would say it is tied to the endowment of mystic or shamanic knowledge, but again the bubble.

As others have extended you have my sympathy, but really seems like you are projecting onto a substance.

We dont know what a lot of things we injest really do, just as we dont know how the body, let alone the brain, really works in detail. risk assesment.

Thats a poor analagy, how this one what about people whom are filled with the holy ghost of christian mythos, could be evil.

Yes and LSD causes chromosome damage. Sorry while someone my have the experience of having their DNA manipulated while under the effects of dimitri, I dont see the report proving it happened in our realm any time soon.

Are you sure its blue, or is that just what a photonic/chemo/electric chain event is telling you, and was that really what it was telling you before you assigned blue to it.

Poisons arent bad, toxic to the sapien system perhaps.

<blockquote data-quote="lucious" data-source="post: 3220583" data-attributes="member: 309">machine elves and forum trolls.Swim and others in his group have talked about how choice and freewill seem to be a theme in some of the deeper journeys. It can be quite like being thrown into the churning vortex, and physically you must yeild to the drug or fall down trying, but to say there is no control whatsoever is false in my experience.Seems like you have a bit of a negative view about cultures outside your bubble, so wont even go into the positive/negative monopolar thing.Realer than I am still in debate, but as real as, sure. Relead me to one of my favorate ponderings, used to use dreams as the compotition but dimitri provides yet another petri dish. If I can not tell which is realer, what does that say about what I consider reality? I think one of the most wonderful &#039;truths&#039; about our current place in the universe is we can not truely be sure of anything.Seems to me the oppisite in most cases. Most reports of aftereffects Ive read/heard claim marked antidepressive and calming effects for several days after, and a great sense of self/sapien/world/universe for a while after. Not in every case of course but in majoratity in my experience.Smoking a low dose can be somewhat managable, but I agree an effective dose is overwelming, but thats one of the more intresting novelties, there is something more powerful than you and it&#039;s an innocent looking white powder.Many things contributed to the cultures of early america, more likely the sacrifieces were a device of control, perhaps the cerimonies were influenced by plants containing DMT, as well as the many other psychotropics they consumed, but claiming DMT is the cause is like saying the kykeon directly lead to the formation of the United States.We do have a few threads on the health effects and dangers of DMT. heh had to have an i told you so.I am sure most here, before and after, poured over books articles journals and many many experience reports. Who doesnt love those train wrecks. Thats why the word evangelical was thrown about, the tone of the message. Many here would be happy to read your experiences or thoughs, but we did not come here for a dare meeting.Being devoured dismembered or consumed, has been wrapped up in mysticism since before it was recorded, many would say it is tied to the endowment of mystic or shamanic knowledge, but again the bubble.As others have extended you have my sympathy, but really seems like you are projecting onto a substance.We dont know what a lot of things we injest really do, just as we dont know how the body, let alone the brain, really works in detail. risk assesment.Thats a poor analagy, how this one what about people whom are filled with the holy ghost of christian mythos, could be evil.Yes and LSD causes chromosome damage. Sorry while someone my have the experience of having their DNA manipulated while under the effects of dimitri, I dont see the report proving it happened in our realm any time soon.Are you sure its blue, or is that just what a photonic/chemo/electric chain event is telling you, and was that really what it was telling you before you assigned blue to it. Poisons arent bad, toxic to the sapien system perhaps.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="lucious, post: 3220583, member: 309"] machine elves and forum trolls. Swim and others in his group have talked about how choice and freewill seem to be a theme in some of the deeper journeys. It can be quite like being thrown into the churning vortex, and physically you must yeild to the drug or fall down trying, but to say there is no control whatsoever is false in my experience. Seems like you have a bit of a negative view about cultures outside your bubble, so wont even go into the positive/negative monopolar thing. Realer than I am still in debate, but as real as, sure. Relead me to one of my favorate ponderings, used to use dreams as the compotition but dimitri provides yet another petri dish. If I can not tell which is realer, what does that say about what I consider reality? I think one of the most wonderful 'truths' about our current place in the universe is we can not truely be sure of anything. Seems to me the oppisite in most cases. Most reports of aftereffects Ive read/heard claim marked antidepressive and calming effects for several days after, and a great sense of self/sapien/world/universe for a while after. Not in every case of course but in majoratity in my experience. Smoking a low dose can be somewhat managable, but I agree an effective dose is overwelming, but thats one of the more intresting novelties, there is something more powerful than you and it's an innocent looking white powder. Many things contributed to the cultures of early america, more likely the sacrifieces were a device of control, perhaps the cerimonies were influenced by plants containing DMT, as well as the many other psychotropics they consumed, but claiming DMT is the cause is like saying the kykeon directly lead to the formation of the United States. We do have a few threads on the health effects and dangers of DMT. heh had to have an i told you so. I am sure most here, before and after, poured over books articles journals and many many experience reports. Who doesnt love those train wrecks. Thats why the word evangelical was thrown about, the tone of the message. Many here would be happy to read your experiences or thoughs, but we did not come here for a dare meeting. Being devoured dismembered or consumed, has been wrapped up in mysticism since before it was recorded, many would say it is tied to the endowment of mystic or shamanic knowledge, but again the bubble. As others have extended you have my sympathy, but really seems like you are projecting onto a substance. We dont know what a lot of things we injest really do, just as we dont know how the body, let alone the brain, really works in detail. risk assesment. Thats a poor analagy, how this one what about people whom are filled with the holy ghost of christian mythos, could be evil. Yes and LSD causes chromosome damage. Sorry while someone my have the experience of having their DNA manipulated while under the effects of dimitri, I dont see the report proving it happened in our realm any time soon. Are you sure its blue, or is that just what a photonic/chemo/electric chain event is telling you, and was that really what it was telling you before you assigned blue to it. Poisons arent bad, toxic to the sapien system perhaps. [/QUOTE]