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blig-blug's Ayahuasca experience log

I know, in any case it would be a minute amount and very diluted, as it was the case this time. Although now that I think about it, I don't even know if what remains is calcium hydroxide, it may have reacted with some other stuff in the tincture. I have tried bicarbonate and, for whatever reason, it doesn't seem to help with the heartburn induced by these brews (it helps for normal heartburn). I do have an antacid containing bicarbonate, sodium alginate, and calcium carbonate. I may try that instead, I haven't tried it yet. It warns about it preventing the absorption of certain substances, I don't know if it will apply to these substances. I will try that first, thanks for the heads up.
Probably a combination of calcium hydroxide, calcium tannate, calcium carbonate, and calcium bicarbonate. They're poorly soluble in water and alcohol except for the bicarbonate, but likely not much of it forms anyway, depending on how much carbon dioxide absorbs into solution. The alkaloids being in freebase form might also help.
 
I know, in any case it would be a minute amount and very diluted, as it was the case this time. Although now that I think about it, I don't even know if what remains is calcium hydroxide, it may have reacted with some other stuff in the tincture. I have tried bicarbonate and, for whatever reason, it doesn't seem to help with the heartburn induced by these brews (it helps for normal heartburn). I do have an antacid containing bicarbonate, sodium alginate, and calcium carbonate. I may try that instead, I haven't tried it yet. It warns about it preventing the absorption of certain substances, I don't know if it will apply to these substances. I will try that first, thanks for the heads up.
One potential problem from using carbonates or bicarbonates is with the carbon dioxide that they produce also being acidic, as well as the gas pressure alone being irritating. Indeed, CO2 itself is bioactive in various ways. It would be silly if it upregulated HCl production in the stomach (not saying that it does, I haven't looked into this yet).
Probably a combination of calcium hydroxide, calcium tannate, calcium carbonate, and calcium bicarbonate. They're poorly soluble in water and alcohol except for the bicarbonate, but likely not much of it forms anyway, depending on how much carbon dioxide absorbs into solution. The alkaloids being in freebase form might also help.
Calcium tannate precipitates as completely insoluble in 40% ethanol, as does calcium carbonate - while calcium hydroxide and the bicarbonate won't coexist in solution, reacting as they do to produce just calcium carbonate. There may be some dissolved excess of calcium hydroxide from the tannin precipitation, but most of the alkalinity will be a result of the freebase alkaloids, as you rightly also point out. It's an interesting side-effect to have serendipitously devised a treatment for heartburn.
 
most of the alkalinity will be a result of the freebase alkaloids
What surprises me is that I very often have that heartburn from just DMT and harmalas freebase (not dissolved into any juice), if I don't have limonene. So I wonder what else could be at play here. Maybe it's some other substance from mimosa.

It's an interesting side-effect to have serendipitously devised a treatment for heartburn.
Can't wait to see it come up in a bogus patent!
 
What surprises me is that I very often have that heartburn from just DMT and harmalas freebase (not dissolved into any juice), if I don't have limonene. So I wonder what else could be at play here. Maybe it's some other substance from mimosa.
That's what I've been pondering too - best might be to get a sample analysed because there's surely something else besides DMT in there.

Can't wait to see it come up in a bogus patent!
This exact thought crossed my mind the moment I'd posted as well. I hereby claim prior art :p
 
Calcium tannate precipitates as completely insoluble in 40% ethanol, as does calcium carbonate - while calcium hydroxide and the bicarbonate won't coexist in solution, reacting as they do to produce just calcium carbonate. There may be some dissolved excess of calcium hydroxide from the tannin precipitation, but most of the alkalinity will be a result of the freebase alkaloids, as you rightly also point out. It's an interesting side-effect to have serendipitously devised a treatment for heartburn.
I tried including all the possibilities in the basket just like those bogus patents :b
There is still the case of fine particles of any of the molecules remaining suspended in solution. I've had curious results and various precipitates and stubborn cloudiness during my 2 changa from TnT tek attempts. I really should post about it before I forget the details.
 
I tried including all the possibilities in the basket just like those bogus patents :b
There is still the case of fine particles of any of the molecules remaining suspended in solution. I've had curious results and various precipitates and stubborn cloudiness during my 2 changa from TnT tek attempts. I really should post about it before I forget the details.
Ah, fair point - I did mean to point out that I was referring to a thoroughly clarified tincture. If your efforts were persistently cloudy that would make your suggestion entirely valid, awart from the calcium bicarbonate, perhaps.

If you're planning to share your results, I should clearly hurry up and post the TnT tincture workspace thread.

Btw, freezing may help to clear things up more - I'm not sure why some of you are experiencing difficulties with turbidity like that, so having a look at all the details may help with troubleshooting.
 
XXVI log update:

Dose:
T+00:00 -> 230mg harmala freebase from rue
T+00:30 -> tincture equivalent to 5g mimosa
T+02:00 -> tincture equivalent to 2.5g mimosa + ? g rue
At night, fasted for 48 hours.

After the initial dose of mimosa tincture started having effect, I went to lay down. There were colorful flashes of light, but at first not much more seemed to be going on, so I opened my eyes and started looking at the fire burning behind the (very blackened) glass of the wood stove. After a while, I was surprised to see one of the logs turn into a severed human head, seen from behind. It seemed to be from a young man in his 20s, with a short haircut. I could see part of the right ear and cheek. It was very realistic, it looked identical to reality, but I knew it wasn't. Still, it was eerie, so I soon closed my eyes.

Not too long before I had the harmalas, @Pandora asked if anyone had been feeling a feminine presence in hyperspace more often lately. So likely influenced by that, I saw many women this time. Most often, they were forming in a line, side to side, and moving forwards. Sometimes it was just from the shoulders up, facing me, and advancing towards me. Other times it was the full body, in those cases they were advancing to one side, with an athletic demeanor, sometimes even marching.

At other points I saw my hands stretched forwards as I glided through some kind of tunnel. There were also symmetric trees floating in a grid, and I flew over something resembling a gigantic peyote button. Towards the end of this first dose, looking at the fire I could see a (very small) tiger red like the flames slowly walking and moving, this one was not realistic.

My thoughts were quite introspective, and I got some good insights. The most important was that, despite having improved in almost all aspects in my life and being now able to have a stable life doing what I need to do, I still feel as if I were in some kind of crisis and needed to turn around my whole life. There is no need to turn around my whole life anymore. There is still much to improve but I can't pretend to do it all at once (and then basically set myself up for failure). I decided to approach the areas that I want to improve following an "exposure to good" idea: instead of focusing in some absolute end state, I will (and already am) focus on maximizing my "exposure" to that which leads towards where I want to go. For example, with the coming of winter weather and without access to a gym it's more difficult for me to do exercise, and I do less than it would be good for me to. Instead of having some strict goals that I may fail, I'll just take whatever opportunity to do some exercise, and thus "expose" myself to something that leads to maintaining my health and strength.

This first dose was in retrospective quite rich in experience, but in the moment it seemed to not have been much. I redosed with the tincture from last time that has an unknown amount of harmalas. Almost immediately after it reached my stomach, I could feel some pains and bloating appeared. It slowly started to develop into heartburn. With the help of some antacid I was able to prevent it from becoming too bad, but this throws a wrench into the hypothesis that the tincture was preventing heartburn. It's still possible that it makes it less likely even if it doesn't prevent it completely in every situation. But I'm not sure why this happens to me. I think maybe my intestines weren't fully empty despite my 48h fast, something supported by my bowel movements the next day.

As always when I have stomach pains, it was much more challenging. I think the amount of harmalas plus the harmalas I already had may have been very high: I fell into a trance and I can't remember almost anything of it. As I momentarily came out of trance, I was very disoriented and couldn't remember at first where I was or almost anything, and before I could remember much I was plunged into another trance. These trances were like a very intense internal conversation of which I can't remember its contents (I think even in the moment I couldn't remember the last 10 seconds of it), I don't think there were any visuals, what I remember is darkness. Towards the end I started being able to stay out of trance for longer stretches of time, I almost felt normal at some points, but then fell back again into a trance. This last part was marked by strong feelings of nostalgia and sadness. I think they are just related to a feeling of sadness about the passage of time. The day before I had been having similar feelings when seeing the sun set, so it didn't come out of nowhere.

The redose lasted 2 hours of very strong trances, and an extra hour where I was out of it for longer and longer stretches of time. I then went to bed, still with stomach pains and feelings of sickness. I had some bizarre dreams (the police detained me, then I went to sue them and somehow it came to light that I was pre-diabetic, and started wondering how that could be possible) and felt very tired the next day, but my mood was much improved. I'm still tired two days after it.

I'm not sure if those trances were from the harmalas only, or from the mimosa. It's true in my experience that mimosa often tends to be "dreamy", but this was not even dreamy, or at least not that I can remember. To figure this out, next time I'm going to have a higher dose of mimosa tincture but a lower dose of harmalas.

After that, I think I'm going to put the tincture to rest for a while and continue with my exploration of caapi and chalipanga.
 
After a while, I was surprised to see one of the logs turn into a severed human head, seen from behind. It seemed to be from a young man in his 20s, with a short haircut. I could see part of the right ear and cheek. It was very realistic, it looked identical to reality, but I knew it wasn't. Still, it was eerie, so I soon closed my eyes.
Ouch, mimosa can get very dark. I only had one batch that was more or less fine to work with; otherwise, it got witchy on me a number of times. Actually, I drank some mimosa a few months ago and decided that was it. I do not trust this plant and would never leave it unattended.
Almost immediately after it reached my stomach, I could feel some pains and bloating appeared. It slowly started to develop into heartburn. With the help of some antacid I was able to prevent it from becoming too bad, but this throws a wrench into the hypothesis that the tincture was preventing heartburn. It's still possible that it makes it less likely even if it doesn't prevent it completely in every situation. But I'm not sure why this happens to me. I think maybe my intestines weren't fully empty despite my 48h fast, something supported by my bowel movements the next day.
Most likely some stomach issues. I experimented with cleaning intestines before the ceremony with fiber. My conclusion is that the system needs to be relatively clean, but there is no need to overthink it. You can make some rue tea and drink it by itself in the evenings. Rue can fix lots of bodily ailments and is a good stand-alone medicine.
I think the amount of harmalas plus the harmalas I already had may have been very high: I fell into a trance and I can't remember almost anything of it.
Most likely that is the case. With too much harmalas, my short-term memory gets fried, and I go into a trance state easily. Mimosa helped too, for sure. I got into the no-man's zone with it quite a few times. Like I said before, I lost trust in it and would never consume a dose of harmalas where I cannot see what it is doing. When unattended, it could get witchy, and I do not like taking on energies that were not vetted by me.
After that, I think I'm going to put the tincture to rest for a while and continue with my exploration of caapi and chalipanga.
That is the way, honestly. You can try making rue tea after some work with caapi. Rue tea could be made very clean, almost like extracted harmalas, but with a full profile.
Chaliponga might get wild, but it is much more trustworthy than mimosa or even acacia.

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mimosa can get very dark. I only had one batch that was more or less fine to work with; otherwise, it got witchy on me a number of times.
In what ways does mimosa get dark and witchy? Does it give you visions of death and decay or something? Do you have to fight off shadow people? (I have to ask – I've been thinking about what you've said for the past day or two...)
 
In what ways does mimosa get dark and witchy? Does it give you visions of death and decay or something? Do you have to fight off shadow people? (I have to ask – I've been thinking about what you've said for the past day or two...)
Firstly, I'm talking about an oral brew from mimosa. Extracted dmt may be cleaner, although I believe you can't fully escape the energy of the plant. My last experience with mimosa tea was just a few months ago, so it's still fresh in my mind. Basically, the vibe is witchy. You see lots of horrific visions: skulls, blades, spikes, morbid creatures, or just dangerous animals. It'd be fine with me because I've seen my share of dark stuff, and it's hard to scare me easily. The biggest issue is the tricky character of mimosa and no trust in it. Like if I stopped paying attention, it'd flood my inner vision with these witchy images and feelings. Sadly, it stays in you even after the session. You'd get quite a baggage to clear later on; and in your day-to-day life, it'd manifest as extra aggression, hate, and a harsh attitude. You never know where mimosa would lead you, and it could easily be some 9th circle of hell.

A true light source (like chacruna) might seem difficult at the beginning, but it has a well-thought-out healing program, and you feel trust in it. Healing always ends in some kind of release or relief - very unlike mimosa. I'd consider mimosa brew a bootcamp to strengthen your focus, willpower, and build courage. Some batches are better, but that dark, spiky character is always lurking behind the scenes. It's a protective plant, and I used it for just that. It'll clear witchcraft, curses, or any possible psychic attack on you. Still, it's not an everyday, light plant for healing and inner exploration. That's just my perspective, but I hope others would be extra careful with mimosa and other barks. I have just as long a story about why no one should work with Acacia long-term, even considering its lovely presence and the joyful experience it gives.

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Have you shared this anywhere around here before? Sounds like it'd be a good read…
Nope. It's a hard story to formulate and tell. I've worked with Acacia the most and the longest (10+ years). My last few times were quite insane (somewhere around 30g of a very strong tea). I didn't go all the way with Acacia, but I went as far as I could. It healed my depression and rekindled my faith. I love Acacia from the bottom of my heart, but I'll never touch it again. Maybe I'll get some inspiration to write about it.

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Nope. It's a hard story to formulate and tell. I've worked with Acacia the most and the longest (10+ years). My last few times were quite insane (somewhere around 30g of a very strong tea). I didn't go all the way with Acacia, but I went as far as I could. It healed my depression and rekindled my faith. I love Acacia from the bottom of my heart, but I'll never touch it again. Maybe I'll get some inspiration to write about it.

Well, if the inspiration strikes you, I'm sure that many here, myself included, would be interested in reading.

It sounds like Acacia had a profoundly healing effect on you, so it's notable for you to say that you'll never touch it again, which naturally makes me curious about the arc of your experience with it.

30g of Acacia seems like an extremely "heroic dose" - if that wasn't "all the way," it makes me wonder what going "all the way" would mean.

In a different thread, I saw that you referred to the heart-opening quality of Acacia as being "artificial," which is a view that is difficult for me to accept.

Do you mean to say that the heart-opening effects of Acacia are "artificial" while those of other admixture plants are "natural," or are you saying that all heart-opening effects elicited by psychedelics are unnatural, somehow?

I'm curious what differentiates an "artificial" from a "natural" heart-opening experience, from your perspective.

If the basic nature of the heart-mind is one of open-heartedness, isn't anything that reveals that quality just illuminating the self-arising nature of what is inherently present?

What about developmental practices, like metta and tonglen? These practices are traditionally done with the aim of developing compassion and lovingkindness, while psychedelics seem to uncover the fundamental ground from which these qualities arise.

From my perspective, uncovering a quality of open-heartedness is no less natural than developing such a quality, which ties in with the value of integration as a vital component of working with psychedelics in an intentional way.
 
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It's a hard story to formulate and tell. I've worked with Acacia the most and the longest (10+ years).
I'd also love to hear your insights, as I've just started making friends with it these past few months. So far, I've found that every tree and/or tree part (phyllodes vs twigs vs branch bark vs root bark) has its own unique character, with the underlying characteristic of playful curiosity.
 
Acacia is the love of my life, so everything I say is very biased and personal. I'll give it a try to describe my path with this power plant.

To give some context first, I came to plant work with severe depression and everyday suicidal thoughts. It's not like I didn't have some questions about spirituality and life, but my main aim was healing, no matter what I imagined at the time. Liberty caps scared me after 20–30 sessions, and I somehow found rue and the world of Ayahuasca analogs.

When it comes to Acacia, I only worked with dry barks from Hawaii and Taiwan. The Hawaiian one was a bit more cartoonish and dmt-dominant, I'd say. However, it quickly disappeared from the European market, and Acacia from Taiwan became the main variety for me. Right here, you can see the apparent limitations, but I had no better medicine or understanding back then.

So let's start with the fun part. Unlike Mimosa, Acacia is all about love, joy, and divinity. I never had any trust issues with this plant. Occasionally, you can get some unclean batch even with Acacia, but it was mostly stuff from the US. I never felt any energetic pollution from Taiwan, and it's much more sustainable there because they have lots of fallen trees each year. I think a big part of a healthy spiritual scene on the island comes from Acacia and its vibe, but that's just my speculation.

Acacia is all about the Heart, warmth, and light. It was very welcome in dark Scandinavian winters. Whatever troubles you before the sessions dissolve in joy bordering on euphoria. You can easily reach euphoric states with Acacia, and they consume you. I had a big smile on my face most of the nights. Back then, I just listened to music all night, basking in the light. So, in retrospect, through constant exposure to Rue and Acacia, my system started to rebalance itself and move in a more positive direction. I have lots of negativity from my upbringing/childhood, and without touching anything directly, it changed the main mood of it all. I feel like Syrian Rue is the main culprit who did most of the heavy lifting, but without some light from Acacia, it'd be impossible. It's a safe plant to use, and my normal dose was over 5g for many years. You still can have some side effects like shaking on the come-up, tachycardia, or overstimulation, but it's generally safe.

And the most juicy part is that Acacia connects you to heavenly realms, divinity, Gods, and Goddesses. It's all about transcending our humanity and reaching beyond. This plant told me to sing and connected me to Ram, for which I'll be forever grateful. I still remember that ceremony, when I could feel and see a big sun in the middle of my chest. Singing praise to God just made it pour out light and consume me in a devotional frenzy. I've repeated that experience many more times at different levels of absorption.

What's bad about it, then?
Acacia is not about humans or humanity at all. Some plants are better at working with us apes than others. Basically, Acacia lacks any depth. It's a transcendental candy that you want to suck on as an addict. It takes you right to heaven without any consideration for your life or what you're going through. Sure, Rue can still give you some guidance even via Acacia, but it becomes severely blocked. You can ask more about it from @dithyramb, who has extensive experience working with Rue (most likely more experience than anyone else on the forum).

I'm curious what differentiates an "artificial" from a "natural" heart-opening experience, from your perspective.
Acacia's heart-opening is a closed mind space, even if it's a divine one. We humans are all about humanity, suffering, and our little human interactions. Going beyond that strips us from our life mission. Maybe you can reach God that way, but you'd need to leave your body behind. That's what I felt in my later years: no matter how hard I tried to reach the end of the Acacia tunnel, I couldn't succeed because my humanity and body were in the way.

Every plant has its own portal into the astral realm, and Acacia has its own coloring and filters. To go to the end, you need to fully surrender to the plant. I felt that full surrender would mean the end of my human existence, and said my goodbyes to Acacia.

I'd also love to hear your insights, as I've just started making friends with it these past few months. So far, I've found that every tree and/or tree part (phyllodes vs twigs vs branch bark vs root bark) has its own unique character, with the underlying characteristic of playful curiosity.
Your inquiry holds the answer to all my years with this plant. Basically, you need to work with live plants, and you need to use test every part of it. It's kind of obvious if you consider Acacia a plant spirit. In order to know it fully, you need to try every bit and piece of it. Medicine work is kind of shamanic, as we all well know, and it's all about building a relationship with our chosen plant. I fully believe that Acacia has sufficient depth if you work with the whole plant. It should be much healthier, because with time you'd ingest different energies that Acacia has and adapt your body to them. Acacia is a life-long commitment and could get as deep as any other power plant.

How does 30g of Acacia feel?
Awesome, actually. It was all about devotion, love, opening, and transcendence once again. At the peak of it, I just felt an open space without any borders that stretched far beyond the constraints of the room I was in. I was starting to feel the tremendous joy of that moment, and right then I blacked out. An unknown time later, I found myself very confused in a different room. It took some time to get my bearings and return to the ceremony place. My ceremony room was semi-trashed. Nothing major, but some action happened there. I have no recollection of it to this day. As my focus is on presence and awareness, I never repeated the experiment again. By the way, I came to learn later on that the openness and spaciousness I felt is available with other plants at higher doses. It could be even more open than what Acacia showed me. However, it opened the door, and for that I'm forever grateful.

That was the absolute maximum of my writing ability and covers less than 10%, but I can't give you more. Just ask some specific questions, and I'll try to answer.
We've seemingly captured the thread in the last few posts. Seriously, @blig-blug has started a movement of sorts, and this thread is breaking records and holding lots of good info.

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30g of Acacia seems like an extremely "heroic dose" - if that wasn't "all the way," it makes me wonder what going "all the way" would entail.
All the way would be a total immersion in the Acacia tunnel, but one needs to leave the body behind. If I were in nature by myself, I'd go even deeper.
It seems like I'm a risky individual 😆
In a different thread, I saw that you referred to the heart-opening quality of Acacia as being "artificial," which is a view that is difficult for me to accept.

Do you mean to say that the heart-opening effects of Acacia are "artificial" while those of other admixture plants are "natural," or are you saying that all heart-opening effects elicited by psychedelics are unnatural, somehow?

I'm curious what differentiates an "artificial" from a "natural" heart-opening experience, from your perspective.
Lack of depth and human-orientation makes it artificial. Maybe it's not the best word, but it kind of gives an idea. Don't get me wrong, Acacia can open doors that most people don't know exist. It opened my Heart a lot, but its opening lacks the fullness of human experience. We're even more than what Acacia shows us.
If the basic nature of the heart-mind is one of open-heartedness, isn't anything that reveals that quality just illuminating the self-arising nature of what is inherently present?

What about developmental practices, like metta and tonglen? These practices are traditionally done with the aim of developing compassion and lovingkindness, while psychedelics seem to uncover the fundamental ground from which these qualities arise.

From my perspective, uncovering a quality of open-heartedness is no less natural than developing such a quality, which ties in with the value of integration as a vital component of working with psychedelics in an intentional way.
True. I'll repeat once again that our human experience goes very deep. All these psychedelic states just show the unlimited capability of our ordinary mind. They're all like different lenses in a telescope or camera. You can see something extraordinary, but in the end, it is you who are seeing. The mystery is you, not just some state.
God dwells in your heart.

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Thank you for your insights @northape. You've helped to confirm that I'm on the right path.

I've yet to take my extracts orally, but I would agree with you that for the most part, AC lacks humanity – or heavy, psychological analysis and insights – as I often have encounters with curious, friendly spirits. I've gotten most of my inner work and healing out of the way, so I really enjoy this! My reason for working with these trees, as well as being here on the Nexus, is to explore beyond the boundries of my common waking state. If I could board an interstellar ship, I would – but this is the only real option I have...

On that note, I had a rather interesting, extended session last night after sublingual pre-dosing with a rue Manske salt extract. 20mg of harmalas + 30mg of root bark extract turned out to be a head-ful of ideas and insights similar to very, very strong cannabis. Unfortunately, I cannot remember any specifics since it was late at night, and I entered a borderline dream state where I was only half awake. This surprised me: visuals were mild and dream-like at best, while the internal dialog was 9 out of 10 in terms of making cognitive connections and realizations about what I'm currently going through in life. It was also extremely sedative and auditory, with lots of weird flanging sound effects.

To contrast this experience – 45 minutes later, when I came out of it – I inhaled 35mg of branch bark extract that was very light on the body and mind, and included a dream-like encounter with a girlish spirit that wrapped her legs around me and didn't want to let go. She let me know that she wanted to "come back" with me and follow me around. Since I was waiting on @northape 's reply, and was unsure if I could trust an acacia nymph, I politely let told her "No thanks." (I just realized how weird this sounds; I'd only tell this story to fellow Nexians and a handful of close friends.)
 
@northape and @TheGreenPhantom , have you tried pharmahuasca with only DMT? If so, how would you compare it to Acacia? What you describe sounds similar to only DMT to me, but I haven't tried Acacia.

I must also say that to me it's surprising to hear that other people have such consistency in the character of their experiences. While I do perceive clear differences in effect between e.g. Mimosa, Chalipanga, and just DMT, the character and contents of my experiences vary a lot from one time to the next. Sometimes it's clearly dependent on set and setting and other times I'm unsure why, but they tend to be very different.

I'm way less experienced than many of you with brews, so the reason may be that I don't have enough experience to recognize the features that are common beyond the more incidental ones. Are your experiences really this consistent in character depending on plants, or is it based on retrospective evaluation after a lot of experience?
 
She let me know that she wanted to "come back" with me and follow me around. Since I was waiting on @northape 's reply, and was unsure if I could trust an acacia nymph, I politely let told her "No thanks." (I just realized how weird this sounds; I'd only tell this story to fellow Nexians and a handful of close friends.)
I'm always wary of any entity that tries to force its help on me. The real helpers demand nothing, and they just do their job. Rue incense, Agua de Florida, and setting a clear boundary before any ceremony are part of my practice for many years now. Spirits seldom bother me nowadays, and my work is mostly about healing my own local psyche.
@northape and @TheGreenPhantom , have you tried pharmahuasca with only DMT? If so, how would you compare it to Acacia? What you describe sounds similar to only DMT to me, but I haven't tried Acacia.
I only did extraction of dmt once many years ago, and used Acacia for it. All my dmt went into making changa because I wanted to try it. It was a bit cleaner than oral brews, more visual, and rapid. However, it didn't fit my psychology or style of work. It was fast and short; the positive effects disappeared after a number of days. Oral brews could easily go for 8+ hours, and the afterglow lasts forever. These differences are not only based on substance and route of administration. Plant spirit and your personal psychology play the biggest role.
Are your experiences really this consistent in character depending on plants, or is it based on retrospective evaluation after a lot of experience?
Working with plants felt overwhelming for years, and it all was the same. After a few years under the belt, I started to see a clear character of Rue and Acacia. One of the reasons I used Acacia for so long is its consistency and strength. All light plants are very different, and have their own field of work. Acacia is well suited to open your heart, heal depression, and reconnect with God.
 
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@northape did a good job of bringing some clarity to the conundrum of Acacia confusa. I would summarize it as follows: First of all, it has a heavy, "suffocating" feel. I used to see it as an Asian elephant and this effect felt like "being crushed under the weight of the elephant." On the other hand, it is a plant that is a powerful breath of fresh air for people suffocating under deep depression. Some people describe it as "psychedelic candy" which describes the Hawaiian variety more fittingly. But even the Asian growing ones are pure sweetness, pure positivity. Sure, diving into these spaces you can be confronted with whatever dark energies you carry, or doing the session in a reckless way you can open yourself to some dark stuff. But even then it is coated with this sweet energy. It is spiritually very safe; if you do a proper sacred ritual it is a guarantee of "communing with the angels." without too much diving into your difficult stuff. The difficult stuff part will be there for sure, but it will not turn into a challenging experience in that aspect. Indeed it's power is not depth. It is "height." Even though among the internationally known and sold light sources, I hold chacruna in highest esteem for wholistic healing power, I don't overlook the fact that acacia confusa is the one that most suits the mantra/kirtan singing ceremonial style, which really fits my own constitution very well. It "trained" me in this for years. But for the last few years that I was using it, I was protesting inside myself that I was stuck with this light source, as it was a dead end. This plant can only take you so far. It fills you with a blessed energy which feels to be legitimately channeled from some divine realms. But it is blind, it blunts rue/caapi, blunts your spiritual connection to anything other than this far away abstract divine realm. It imparts a certain blindness to your awareness also. It easily turns into a spiritual bypass. It's not "shamanic" at all. It is not connected to life. It is "monolithically" connected to an abstract divine dimension. It doesn't purify your deeper stuff. It is not deeply transformative.

@blig-blug for sure the very high nmt content is involved in a lot of this. I haven't ever tried pure DMT, but I still believe to have a decent idea of how DMT by itself feels, and it is quite different. Perhaps DMT alone would also lack the depth of a full medicine with rue/caapi, but it is sharp, not fuzzy and blurry. And it is neutral, not sweet.

Past a few mimosa experiences, my first few hundred experiences were with Hawaiian chacruna and they were very shamanic, and deep. My problem with chacruna was that it was too flighty with rue at high doses (forgot to mention, acacia confusa is actually quite grounded with rue which I initially experienced as a strength, but this groundedness is not separate from it's dominating and blunting aspect), and that it was expensive for me. Of course, my long term search was for a local counterpart to rue anyways.

Chaliponga is good also, but for doing solo ceremonies I believe chacruna has the highest potential. Chaliponga can be fun, can be shamanic, can be antidepressant. It can also be very deep but this side is better experienced with some Cofan taitas or the like. Chacruna is friendlier, easier (when going deeper), and most connected to the human existence.

Chacruna is known as "Rainha de la floresta." It is very obviously feminine and motherly. "Mother Ayahuasca" is thanks to Chacruna. Caapi is not the motherly element.
 
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