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Redguard said:
Good doses are not as rare as one might think.
A TLC kit from bunk police, a good eye for BS, & learning to read people while not being afraid to call out BS when you hear it may very well surprise you.
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Breakthrough caused someone to go nuts - to the point of being dangerous
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Good doses are not as rare as one might think.
A TLC kit from bunk police, a good eye for BS, & learning to read people while not being afraid to call out BS when you hear it may very well surprise you.
Doc Buxin
Pay No Mind
anne halonium said:
So true anne...
Every time someone makes a statement like this, I think, "gee, what kind of LSD or shrooms have these people been using?"
anne halonium said:
LMAO!!!! Though I have never heard that phrase until now, it is certainly the appropriate nomenclature to apply to those kind of experiences!:thumb_up:
JDSalinger
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Lyghtsout said:
Yes, I have. Had some MDMA, which had been laced with LSD. We had taken the caps orally on several occasions before, sillily we decided to snort it this time. We were very naive, all of us were instantly tripping balls, my friend though was gone, he wasn't responding to us and ended up doing exactly what the OP describes. He is very strong and we were unable to restrain him. Called the ambulance and he spent the next eight hours strapped to a bed thrashing about, the house was covered in his own blood and trashed as well. He came out of it all very confused about why he was in hospital, his trip was very pleasant from what I can gather.
Lizz
Reptilian humanoid
Yeah I'm sad to admit my first couple experiences with lsd were pretty weak. Like barely any visuals and mostly a stimulation of the mind/emotions. Even the best acid I've had was only comparable to threshold doses of dmt. I honestly didn't think you could still acquire acid as potent as it was back in the day, but maybe I've just been looking in the wrong spots. To be honest though, I dont think I'd want a more intense trip than dmt for 6-7 hours. That sounds exhausting.Redguard said:
entheogenic-gnosis
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In response to the original post.
This was a great report, the information included was very relatable and coincidences quite well with my own personal experience. Some people can report things that I can not relate to in any way, and I always wonder, how can DMT be so variable?
This was identical to my first breakthrough...actually it was my first time.
Only I didn't start flopping around, or need to be restrained...
I did begin crying and bawling (which I still get teased for)
At one point they tried to put me on the phone with my girlfriend, but they said I began screaming at the phone "help me! For the love of God, HELP!"
It really freaked her out, my sitters had to awkwardly call back and explain...
And just before "the mantis" I can remember standing up and trying to feel if I was breathing...the air was going in, but I felt like I was not actually breathing for some reason...
When it was all over the pipe was still in my hand...
I have a full experiance report, but I've posted it so many times that I would feel overly redundant posting it again, but I guess I will...Again, sorry for telling this story so many times, but I consider it the most significant event in my life.
I've always thought that this kind of shock was the experiance, and was essential, and that if the DMT failed to produce a "personal apocalypse", than it did not do its job...
Though after reading this, it becomes obvious that there are risks involved with pushing people into these experiences, and if you are going to take it upon yourself to initiate another person to the DMT breakthrough, you better be very well prepared to handle the worst case scenarios.
To me it was death, and yes, I felt I was never going to return...
The funny thing is, even though now I know that I will return, I can't shake the feeling that I permanently killed myself during every flash...I don't cry anymore, but it never gets easier.
It took months before I could gather the courage to try DMT again after my first flash
-eg
This was a great report, the information included was very relatable and coincidences quite well with my own personal experience. Some people can report things that I can not relate to in any way, and I always wonder, how can DMT be so variable?
This was identical to my first breakthrough...actually it was my first time.
Only I didn't start flopping around, or need to be restrained...
I did begin crying and bawling (which I still get teased for)
At one point they tried to put me on the phone with my girlfriend, but they said I began screaming at the phone "help me! For the love of God, HELP!"
It really freaked her out, my sitters had to awkwardly call back and explain...
And just before "the mantis" I can remember standing up and trying to feel if I was breathing...the air was going in, but I felt like I was not actually breathing for some reason...
When it was all over the pipe was still in my hand...
I have a full experiance report, but I've posted it so many times that I would feel overly redundant posting it again, but I guess I will...Again, sorry for telling this story so many times, but I consider it the most significant event in my life.
I've always thought that this kind of shock was the experiance, and was essential, and that if the DMT failed to produce a "personal apocalypse", than it did not do its job...
Though after reading this, it becomes obvious that there are risks involved with pushing people into these experiences, and if you are going to take it upon yourself to initiate another person to the DMT breakthrough, you better be very well prepared to handle the worst case scenarios.
To me it was death, and yes, I felt I was never going to return...
The funny thing is, even though now I know that I will return, I can't shake the feeling that I permanently killed myself during every flash...I don't cry anymore, but it never gets easier.
It took months before I could gather the courage to try DMT again after my first flash
-eg
entheogenic-gnosis
Rising Star
My last post was also in response to This statement, I forgot to quote it into the post though.
-eg
entheogenic-gnosis
Rising Star
These two entries from TIHKAL each share elements that were also a part of my experiance, there are some aspects of the experiance that actually appear to be quite objective, and it's these objective aspects that I find in each of these entries.
I can understand exactly how they felt.
One physical aspect of feeling as though they were not breathing, and that they were about to faint, was also part of one of my experiences, though I don't hear this phenomenon mentioned often...
...When you remove subjective interpretations of what these experiences/hallucinations are and mean, and remove the colorful descriptions of the visual phenomena, you actually are left with some pretty objective core traits...
One thing said in the original post regarding the "look like nobody is home" struck me as being a very accurate description, but of a rarely mentioned phenomena. this is almost a tell-tale sign of the breakthrough, you can see this "click" where the eyes become blank...
I've always interpreted these DMT experiences as being identical to dying/death*, it's hard for me to picture how it could be anything else. I mean what else could it be? As far as I'm concerned the only difference between a DMT breakthrough and actually dying, is that at death you are unable to return to the physical incarnation from which you departed...
*the words "death" and "dying" are fraught with negative connotations and tend to conjure up notions of the "dark" or "morbid". In this case, these are in fact misperceptions. Also, some often feel that these words imply that the experiance was somehow physically painful, like "I thought I was dying", but being referred to in a manner conveying physical pain or physical discomfort, this is another misperception, and is unrelated to the phenomena which I am describing.*
-eg
psychonaught28
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Hello everyone on this thread, I hope you guys are still active and that this post reaches any or all of you.
I am the one who @Lyghtsout is speaking of in the original post. It is 11:58pm on July 12th 2024. I was just thinking of my DMT experiences while laying in bed with my pup and somehow DMT NEXUS popped into my head. I remembered that @Lyghtsout had told me he posted my story on a website forum called nexus. I hopped on Google, did some research and not only found the site but also the very post from years ago. I had to make an account to confirm what he has said: I can now see the full spectrum of colors after my intense breakthrough with him. Quite a phenomenal achievement and a huge blessing, as I can still to this day see all colors.
I have broken through a few times after my intense breakthrough in 2016 but nothing has ever matched that experience. I did die that night in every way possible but was able to return to this life, so I guess the only death I didn't have was a physical one. I can still recall that experience to this day and reading his original post made my heart beat very quickly as I relived this experience through his description.
I am open to any questions if anyone is still active.
I am the one who @Lyghtsout is speaking of in the original post. It is 11:58pm on July 12th 2024. I was just thinking of my DMT experiences while laying in bed with my pup and somehow DMT NEXUS popped into my head. I remembered that @Lyghtsout had told me he posted my story on a website forum called nexus. I hopped on Google, did some research and not only found the site but also the very post from years ago. I had to make an account to confirm what he has said: I can now see the full spectrum of colors after my intense breakthrough with him. Quite a phenomenal achievement and a huge blessing, as I can still to this day see all colors.
I have broken through a few times after my intense breakthrough in 2016 but nothing has ever matched that experience. I did die that night in every way possible but was able to return to this life, so I guess the only death I didn't have was a physical one. I can still recall that experience to this day and reading his original post made my heart beat very quickly as I relived this experience through his description.
I am open to any questions if anyone is still active.
Welcome to the Nexus, @psychonaught28,
It's great to hear you're doing fine. Are you saying this breakthrough effectively cured your colorblindness?
I also wonder what did you experience during this journey? What do you mean when you say you died? Did you encouter any entities? I'm just curious about what an experience as transformative and profound as yours feels like, subjectively speaking.
Thank you for making the step towards joining this community. I think you'll find a lot of value here, more than you'd expected.
Take care
Hello and welcome to the Nexus after all these years! How fascinating that you suddenly thought to find us. The healing of your colourblindness remains utterly remarkable, too.
With regards to who may still be active, if you hover over the icon of a given member it will bring up a profile summary which includes the date of their last visit to the forum. There's a fair to moderate chance that four or five of the members who originally replied to this thread may notice your message.
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stinkyfish
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What if we are we living in a dream and finding ourself is when we wake up. Not those fake awoke people. What if this whole thing is made to distract us from reaching our true self. Schools distracts and we are taught what they want us to know. Then it's adult hood and work till you have no inner child left, then retire when it's to late to come back and find ourself. What if we are dead and this is the lesson and if we find it out on earth we advance or we die keep coming back again till we figure it out. What if this is all just one day, yes we sleep and wake up but man made up time. What if it is just one long day. Many people once breaking through are told this reality is not real. What if the other world is right in front of us and we can't see it because we are not spiritually there but if we get to that point, that world comes into view and we see the truth.
psychonaught28
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Well thank you! Seeing their most recent activity is helpful. I posted a long comment in reply to someone's questions that everyone might find interesting. It's a more in depth look at that breakthrough. Hopefully it's helpful.
psychonaught28
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This is a very peculiar perspective, but I agree. Anything like this could be possible. I honestly felt like my massive breakthrough was more real than anything I've experienced in my human life. That's hard to fathom for most I'm sure, but it's simply true. I know our human life isn't all that matters or all that exists; there's something beyond this world and us that nobody can put a finger on. In my humble opinion, I believe there is higher intelligence beyond humanity and after my breakthrough I'm not so sure I believe in God as humans know Him. I feel like there is one ultimate, universal consciousness that is everything and we are all part of it. I have so much thought about this theory that it keeps me up at night and I can't sleep. I feel we are all one, including animals, plants and inanimate objects. Because even with inanimate objects, they are constantly moving just like everything else but you just can't see it. The atoms, as we call them, are moving at all times. Everything is energy and everything is always moving. It's nuts to think about all this once you can wrap your head around it after a breakthrough.
One thing also about my breakthrough is that NOTHING quit moving. Everything I saw was moving, nothing stopped, which is hard for your brain to fathom as well and hard to comprehend because in our world we see things sitting still all the time like tables, desks, tv's, couches, parked cars, etc.
In my breakthrough, literally everything was moving super fast and nothing stopped moving. It was VERY HARD to comprehend.
psychonaught28
Esteemed member
This comment is in reply to @Nydex And the questions asked. I posted this as a regular comment on the board so others will be alerted of the comment and everyone can read it for themselves. I am new and don't know how the forum works so I don't know if my direct reply to someone's comment will alert anyone except for the person I'm replying to. But anyways, here we go!
I could honestly expand on this one breakthrough for hours, even though it's been 8 years since it happened. It was unforgettable. People always say that trauma sticks with you forever, which I believe this will. Although it was traumatic, it was life-changing on multiple levels.
To answer your questions;
Yes, that specific breakthrough allowed me to see colors and effectively cured color-blindness that I had prior to this experience. It was not a goal to fix this issue, as I never would've expected something like that to transpire but it was a result of the breakthrough. Beforehand I could only see Red and Green. The only reason I was able to enter into the military with color blindess earlier in my life was because I could see red and green. At MEPS when I was doing my tests for the army, I got a -14 (negative 14) out of 16 on my visual color test, lol. I flunked that test horribly.
In regards to the experience itself, I experienced so much in such a small amount of time. There's truly so much to talk about. It was so profound. I never as a human being could've fathomed an experience such as this, without dmt.
As far as what it felt like? That's hard to sum up in a nutshell, especially if someone hasn't experienced dmt firsthand for themselves. I can tell you that it was the absolute most intense experience of my existence so far that I can recall to memory. I've never experienced something so intense in my life. Even breakthroughs that followed years later, nothing has topped that experience. @Lyghtsout Had mentioned that I used certain descriptions such as "powerful" and "the wrath of God." I still stand by that to this day. I've never experienced such sheer power in my life. It was an experience that I don't believe anyone could ever truly prep themselves well enough for, partially because your brain can't even fathom something like this without firsthand experience. I still couldn't prep myself well enough NOW to experience a breakthrough to that magnitude again, lol.
In regards to dying, yes, there was definitely an ego death and what I would describe as a spiritual death as well. Not just once, but 100x over. Each death was excruciating and torturous, feeling as if each one lasted forever. Looking back on it now, it seems like it was all so fast but during the experience as a whole, it felt like an eternity and felt as if I was never coming back. But I must mention that during all of this, I didn't even have a thought of my human life anymore, it was lightyears away and not even a thought in my spirit. Each death was followed by the most beautiful, extravagant rebirth as well, which was one of the cool parts of the experience. So I went through this excruciating death and then a rebirth as if I turned into a Phoenix after each time I died. I must say this happened about 100 times in a row at a rate faster than lightspeed. During the rebirth there were blasts of colors and beauty, similar to fireworks but waaay more extravagant as if it were rainbows exploding Or something. This part of the experience seemed to last ages.
The entities - yes I did encounter some. It almost seemed like there were 5 of them. If I remember correctly, this part was after the end of the death and rebirths. I was met by 3 entities that presented themselves as what I would describe as 3 spirits but looked visually like 3 bright white orbs of light that glowed bright like the brightest single led light you've ever seen. I need to add that during this whole experience, I experienced no physical body of my own, only my spirit was there. All I was, was a spirit, I didn't have a human form. But anyways, as my spirit was floating in this space, I had one entity out of my left peripheral, one out of my right peripheral, and one straight out in front of me. I was not able to turn and look at the lights to my left and right peripheral but I was able to focus on the one straight in front of me. They were just there, floating with me. I could feel their power too, they were just orbs of light but their power emenated from them as if they were giant angels as tall as the empire state building. I'll never forget that. They felt huge! They felt super tall, as if they were observing me from a higher altitude. So this seemed to take place for a few seconds and then they all seemed to poof and disappear and that's when 2 others came out of nowhere and started fighting. They were both bright white, but I could sense and feel their power. One was pure and holy while the other one felt dark and evil. I would have to describe it like they were fighting over my soul. It was very strange, I couldn't make heads or tales of it, as it made no sense to me, all I know is that I knew their fight was over my existence.
I feel like I'm kinda rambling but I believe that answers your questions. There's so much more but I do want to mention something else that happened. Near the beginning of the breakthrough, my spirit was flying through an extremely colorful vortex. At one point my spirit stopped flying through and the vortex was flying past my spirit, so I was at a standstill but everything was moving past me. At the point there were "alien" symbols (alien meaning symbols unknown to man) that were flying at me. As each one passed through me at a high speed, I could read it and understand what they meant. I could read this language I'd never seen before in my life. I'd describe them close to alchemical symbols. I had to Google alien symbols after the experience to find anything relatively close to what I saw. It was as if a million years of information and knowledge was pumped into my brain but I couldn't remember it after the experience. I remembered what I saw, but not what it all meant in plain English. When I came out of the breakthrough, I was uncontrollably spitting on the floor too, like my body and brain were rejecting this knowledge because it was too much for my human brain to comprehend. I no longer understood the symbols once I came out of the breakthrough. It was more to take in and process than I could handle all in that moment. It took me weeks and even several months to process all of this.
And to think this all happened in a matter of 15 short minutes....but it truly felt like eternities while I was experiencing it all.
Thank you for welcoming me to the community. I am very glad to be here and look forward to reading others' experiences as well and mingling with other psychonauts like myself. I hope this helps shed some light (no pun intended, lol) on the original post made by @Lyghtsout .
Any other questions or comments are more than welcome.
I could honestly expand on this one breakthrough for hours, even though it's been 8 years since it happened. It was unforgettable. People always say that trauma sticks with you forever, which I believe this will. Although it was traumatic, it was life-changing on multiple levels.
To answer your questions;
Yes, that specific breakthrough allowed me to see colors and effectively cured color-blindness that I had prior to this experience. It was not a goal to fix this issue, as I never would've expected something like that to transpire but it was a result of the breakthrough. Beforehand I could only see Red and Green. The only reason I was able to enter into the military with color blindess earlier in my life was because I could see red and green. At MEPS when I was doing my tests for the army, I got a -14 (negative 14) out of 16 on my visual color test, lol. I flunked that test horribly.
In regards to the experience itself, I experienced so much in such a small amount of time. There's truly so much to talk about. It was so profound. I never as a human being could've fathomed an experience such as this, without dmt.
As far as what it felt like? That's hard to sum up in a nutshell, especially if someone hasn't experienced dmt firsthand for themselves. I can tell you that it was the absolute most intense experience of my existence so far that I can recall to memory. I've never experienced something so intense in my life. Even breakthroughs that followed years later, nothing has topped that experience. @Lyghtsout Had mentioned that I used certain descriptions such as "powerful" and "the wrath of God." I still stand by that to this day. I've never experienced such sheer power in my life. It was an experience that I don't believe anyone could ever truly prep themselves well enough for, partially because your brain can't even fathom something like this without firsthand experience. I still couldn't prep myself well enough NOW to experience a breakthrough to that magnitude again, lol.
In regards to dying, yes, there was definitely an ego death and what I would describe as a spiritual death as well. Not just once, but 100x over. Each death was excruciating and torturous, feeling as if each one lasted forever. Looking back on it now, it seems like it was all so fast but during the experience as a whole, it felt like an eternity and felt as if I was never coming back. But I must mention that during all of this, I didn't even have a thought of my human life anymore, it was lightyears away and not even a thought in my spirit. Each death was followed by the most beautiful, extravagant rebirth as well, which was one of the cool parts of the experience. So I went through this excruciating death and then a rebirth as if I turned into a Phoenix after each time I died. I must say this happened about 100 times in a row at a rate faster than lightspeed. During the rebirth there were blasts of colors and beauty, similar to fireworks but waaay more extravagant as if it were rainbows exploding Or something. This part of the experience seemed to last ages.
The entities - yes I did encounter some. It almost seemed like there were 5 of them. If I remember correctly, this part was after the end of the death and rebirths. I was met by 3 entities that presented themselves as what I would describe as 3 spirits but looked visually like 3 bright white orbs of light that glowed bright like the brightest single led light you've ever seen. I need to add that during this whole experience, I experienced no physical body of my own, only my spirit was there. All I was, was a spirit, I didn't have a human form. But anyways, as my spirit was floating in this space, I had one entity out of my left peripheral, one out of my right peripheral, and one straight out in front of me. I was not able to turn and look at the lights to my left and right peripheral but I was able to focus on the one straight in front of me. They were just there, floating with me. I could feel their power too, they were just orbs of light but their power emenated from them as if they were giant angels as tall as the empire state building. I'll never forget that. They felt huge! They felt super tall, as if they were observing me from a higher altitude. So this seemed to take place for a few seconds and then they all seemed to poof and disappear and that's when 2 others came out of nowhere and started fighting. They were both bright white, but I could sense and feel their power. One was pure and holy while the other one felt dark and evil. I would have to describe it like they were fighting over my soul. It was very strange, I couldn't make heads or tales of it, as it made no sense to me, all I know is that I knew their fight was over my existence.
I feel like I'm kinda rambling but I believe that answers your questions. There's so much more but I do want to mention something else that happened. Near the beginning of the breakthrough, my spirit was flying through an extremely colorful vortex. At one point my spirit stopped flying through and the vortex was flying past my spirit, so I was at a standstill but everything was moving past me. At the point there were "alien" symbols (alien meaning symbols unknown to man) that were flying at me. As each one passed through me at a high speed, I could read it and understand what they meant. I could read this language I'd never seen before in my life. I'd describe them close to alchemical symbols. I had to Google alien symbols after the experience to find anything relatively close to what I saw. It was as if a million years of information and knowledge was pumped into my brain but I couldn't remember it after the experience. I remembered what I saw, but not what it all meant in plain English. When I came out of the breakthrough, I was uncontrollably spitting on the floor too, like my body and brain were rejecting this knowledge because it was too much for my human brain to comprehend. I no longer understood the symbols once I came out of the breakthrough. It was more to take in and process than I could handle all in that moment. It took me weeks and even several months to process all of this.
And to think this all happened in a matter of 15 short minutes....but it truly felt like eternities while I was experiencing it all.
Thank you for welcoming me to the community. I am very glad to be here and look forward to reading others' experiences as well and mingling with other psychonauts like myself. I hope this helps shed some light (no pun intended, lol) on the original post made by @Lyghtsout .
Any other questions or comments are more than welcome.
stinkyfish
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You are absolutely correct, we all are one. Nice to know there are others like me. You my friend are on the path of truth!!!! Keep it up, One day it will all come together in a magical way for you.
Hello
I realise this was 8 years ago, however I'd just like to let you know that if these pills made you trip only when sniffed, then it's active molecule was likely 2cb, not LSD. Wonderfull stuff but anymore than half a pill up the snozzer and your in trouble (in for a wild ride)
Interesting. Do you think you could provide some images of these symbols? I've had a somewhat similar experience while dreaming. I was walking along a dusty road on an alien planet (there were two suns, it was definitely alien!) and walked up to a dome-like structure which was a communal space dedicated to sharing of knowledge. There were various peculiar objects and on a kind of lecturn was a book. There were symbols in this book that I could understand during the dream but, similarly to your experience, their meaning is lost to me back in the waking world. I still recall what the symbols looked like so I'm particularly curious to know how 'your' symbols might look. Over the course of several decades there have been hints that these symbols may be something universal.
psychonaught28
Esteemed member
Very interesting indeed. I wish I had dreams as vivid and memorable as yours! lol. Only thing I can come close to in relation to your vivid dreams would be a trip to the DMT Multiverse. Such an interesting place.
I do believe that the symbols I saw and could read are of some universal language, I have no doubt about that one bit. I'm glad to have met someone who has had this similar experience! But on that note, I was watching random YouTube videos last night of people's DMT experiences and someone else said the same thing! They could read and understand this alien language during the experience but the meanings were lost back in the waking world. This was the first time I had ever heard of anyone else having a similar experience until reading your comment just now as well! Very peculiar.
I did attach photos here of similar shapes and designs that I saw during my experience.
