Bufotenine Extraction / Yopo snuff condensation NEEDED

[TrYpt / PhEnEtHyl -AMinE]

Only got one response to similar topic. SWIM is looking for a decent extraction method for Bufotenin/5-HO-DMT from yopo or cebil seeds. SWIM would also appreciate if anyone has any suggestions on how to avoid/reduce the nausea caused by taking bufo orally (after calcifying it of course). SWIM has made yopo snuff before but found that it was not very potent and required a large amount of painful ingestion (regardless of which way it was ingested, although honestly SWIM thinks orally was the easiest as SWIM prefers vomiting over intense caughing or nose-bleeds). If no one knows a decent extraction, SWIM would very much appreciate any suggestions on concentrating the yopo snuff (i.e. removing excess plant materials somehow?). SWIM is mainly after the bufo, but doesn't mind if the extraction also picks up 5-MeO-DMT and N,N-DMT from the seeds.

 

[Noman]

Whatever you do, bufo becomes bufo HCl in your stomach and will make you sick. Thats why traditional users drool out all that snot and saliva rather than let it go down their throats. For a smokable extract: Anadenanthera colubrina (extract) - Erowid Exp - 'Vaporized Extract'

 

[TrYpt / PhEnEtHyl -AMinE]

SWIM did realize that whatever he does, the bufo HCl will cause sickness but he was wondering if there was anything he could take beforehand that would reduce that. Is there some sort of potent anti-nausea medicine that works to stave off the bufo-sickness or is bufo just generally like taking a sick pill no matter what one does? SWIM justs want to reduce the nausea and make it somewhat more tolerable as bufo so readily absorbs that even after vomiting an experience still occurs. SWIM wants to know if whatever the most potent over-the-counter nausea medicine is will help at all... or if there is a way to easily make something else out of the bufo that doesn't cause as much sickness? Like perhaps 4,5-OH-MeO-DMT? SWIM wonders about phenergan as a means of reducing nausea as unlike other anti-nausea medicines, it blocks muscarinic receptors in the gut. Although phenergan blocks serontonin receptors in the brain to a degree, so will this reduce the effects of the Bufotenine? P.S. thanks for the smokable extraction tek, but does anyone know of a less volatile one? SWIM is afraid of volatile things (SWIM has slight fear of volatile liquids, but for some reason he's okay with isopropyl and ethyl alcohols.... the tek tho, wants dichloromethane)...are there any alternative de-fatting agent? SWIM knows he said he used dichloromethane as an alternative to chloroform... anything less volatile then either of these?

 

[TrYpt / PhEnEtHyl -AMinE]

That's called a suppository, much less vulgar than the way you put it, heh. SWIM has sensitive lungs and doesn't smoke much of anything, and also, SWIM prefers vomit to blood, because blood is harder to stop from getting everywhere when its gushing out of one's nose and one is in a Bufo-trance.

 

[TrYpt / PhEnEtHyl -AMinE]

I'd imagine that stimulating 5-HT receptors there would probably cause some problem with the muscles that might lead either to constipation or loose stools as well, which are probably the last thing anyone wants to deal with.... I know constipation is not fun from experience with Nutmeg, which does a number on the body all around and is not recommended as a useful entheogen.... not to mention the fact that the psychoactive compounds in it are still not adequately determined, Shulgin thinks some things in it are metabolized into PMA and MDA, but the effects of those alone don't account for everything that Nutmeg does. I think Nutmeg is by far the least useful legal entheogen.

 

[EZ4U2Shoot]

[quote:7e6c8165f5="SyZyGyPSy"]Heh heh yeah we had an "incident" this holiday season when a friend's mom - who's never done ANYthing before! - drank too much egg nogg, to which she had added heaping teaspoons of nutmeg! She ended up in the ER cuz she was trippin' too hard! :lol: I didn't even think about the 5ht receptors in the gut being a factor in Lemmiwinks' toilet toil... also might've been a problem cuz he used the freebase, perhaps a salt would be better absorbed? I've heard of 'huasca enemas working before (still not something I'd wanna try tho). Speaking of 5ht receptors in the colon, did you know that apparently human feces contains large amounts of bufotenine? Check out entheogen.com It's kinda gross to think aboot, but Swim has actually considered developing a fecal extraction technique. Might come in handy if he ever ends up in prison or something... :lol:[/quote:7e6c8165f5] I guess that's what they meant by "That's some good shit."

 

[EZ4U2Shoot]

[quote:2fc2a48e5d="SyZyGyPSy"]Good point, I suppos that's what I should have called it :lol: Sometimes it's hard to resist the juvenile urge to be vulgar. Hope no offense was taken, cuz none was meant. Good point about the bloody nose thing too. Now that I think about it, I remember reading a post from a guy called Lemmiwinks where he suppos-edly suppositoried some n-n and got a bad bleeding reaction from [i:2fc2a48e5d]that[/i:2fc2a48e5d] :shock: Talk about something you'd never wanna deal with! I suspect impurities like lye and solvent residue were responsible, not the actual n-n, but who knows? Anyway I guess what I'm saying is perhaps you should ignore my original suggestion as now that I think about it, suppositorying your magick might not be such a good idea after all. [/quote:2fc2a48e5d] From what I've learned, somehow I suspect that there might have been some lye in that sample. Lye could certainly make his bum bleed from the inside out, but from what I understand, the DMT wouldn't do that (unless the crystal was extremely large and physically cut as he stuffed it up his bum w/o any lube).

 

[Infinite I]

[quote:3d31db5751]but he's wondering if he could make a lube out of it and maybe send a very special girl to a very special place with some very special tantrick tryptasex?[/quote:3d31db5751] Thats a crazy idea!!! :lol: