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Can DMT/machine elves/The universe call out to you when sober?

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WhereEaglesDare

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I haven't vaped any DMT since the start of December and this was only my 3rd time using it. Ever since I started looking into extracting spice for the first time I have had a nagging feeling that I NEED to do it. Something deep down keeps whispering to my internal voice and saying "do it and come back and visit us soon". :D

This may sound a bit odd, which it probably is ;) , but I have been wavering about extracting my own spice as I am bit worried about the safety and poisoning myself and close friends/fellow hyperspace adventurers. I have researched the different teks and every time I think "yes lets do this" something deep down tells me to stop because of the safety aspect.

Since I have been debating this internally I have been having really vivid dreams about visiting hyperspace again, usually featuring friends who have traveled before telling me all will be ok and that there are people/things in hyperspace that are waiting for me to return. The more I have researched the stronger the connection I feel to extracting my own spice, the more I want to do it yet the more worried I am about hurting someone close to me if I poison them.

Could it be something from my previous travels is trying to reassure me through my dreams or am I just going insane? (and should I just get on with extracting!)
 
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I'm in the same boat as you. I really want to just get on with an extraction but am worried about contaminating it or having any dangerous chemicals left behind. Not to mention wasting all the money on the ruined Mimosa if it doesn't work out.
 
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TheSacredTree said:
I'm in the same boat as you. I really want to just get on with an extraction but am worried about contaminating it or having any dangerous chemicals left behind. Not to mention wasting all the money on the ruined Mimosa if it doesn't work out.
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Both of you need to get something straight right now, or before you go into any extraction. You're going to waste some bark, your going to make mistakes, your going to waste some product. My advice is to be as prepared as possible by reading everything you can from the F.A.Q sections, the wiki, and from the ext. sub-forums.
 
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I've had one instance where i just laid down and closed my eyes and saw for a brief moment in familiair hyperspace colors a woman standing near my bed, and heared people discussing if they should pull me out and said that i'm not ready for it.

Lucid dreaming is a valid technique if you want experiences that are out of the norm, like dmt can offer. In fact, it is on demand. When you finally extract dmt, i have noted for myself ur also going to waste dmt. failed launches, the shakes, burned spice. It's okay though, I am endeavouring in a long-term journey. However, lucid dreaming offers a similar long-term journey with different hackles. Both are equally powerful, i woulden't know but i woulden't be suprised either if the two intersected somewhere along the ride.

As for safety issues, if you do simple STB there is the slight chance of burning yourself and breaking glass. Is is not hard to keep naphta away from flammable objects and even if it sets fire it probably won't be a big deal. You could even replace the lye and opt for less volatile chemicals. However, there is almost no possibility of lye getting into the end-product and it definitely won't be poisonous AFAIK, atleast not from root-bark.

Acid-to-base is probably more ideal but i wouldent know which one is safer. The STB is pretty basic stuff (no pun intented) so i am inclined to think that proper A/B teks are actually much safer.
 
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Rolande said:
Both of you need to get something straight right now, or before you go into any extraction. You're going to waste some bark, your going to make mistakes, your going to waste some product. My advice is to be as prepared as possible by reading everything you can from the F.A.Q sections, the wiki, and from the ext. sub-forums.
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Infectedstyle said:
As for safety issues, if you do simple STB there is the slight chance of burning yourself and breaking glass. Is is not hard to keep naphta away from flammable objects and even if it sets fire it probably won't be a big deal. You could even replace the lye and opt for less volatile chemicals. However, there is almost no possibility of lye getting into the end-product and it definitely won't be poisonous AFAIK, atleast not from root-bark.

Acid-to-base is probably more ideal but i wouldent know which one is safer. The STB is pretty basic stuff (no pun intented) so i am inclined to think that proper A/B teks are actually much safer.
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...and this. If all safety precautions are used for proper handling of lye, both A/B and STB extractions are extremely safe. Neither is safer than the other.

The teks on this forum, if performed correctly, leave a miniscule chance of harmful contamination. If you research until you have a good understanding of the concepts utilized in A/B and STB extractions, there is really nothing to worry about. In addition, there are several well-known and widely-used methods described on this forum to purify spice, leaving essentially zero chance of harmful contamination. A sodium carbonate wash combined with a re-x will eliminate virtually any trace of lye that might have made it into the spice. Even if there was lye in your DMT, it boils at such a high temperature that it would be practically impossible to vaporize at the temperatures used for DMT. The solvents recommended in the teks on the forum all evaporate completely without leaving anything behind.

If you are really that concerned about contamination, go with a food safe tek. Q21Q21's tek is excellent.
 
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It is not against the rules to ask ur question. But it is plain stupid to mention making any purchase whatsoever of something that could potentially be used as evidence against you if you happen to be prosecuted later while doing something illegal such as extracting dmt. Providing a direct link to the website that could have provided direct evidence of your purchase puts them at risk as well, and it would be very unfair if they got duped too, because they have to be able to make a living too. But you will find that anything on this site is truthful and equally valuable. So, you got it right in the first place. And if you can read, there's no need to ask ur question in the first place. :P
 
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Infectedstyle said:
It is not against the rules to ask ur question. But it is plain stupid to mention making any purchase whatsoever of something that could potentially be used as evidence against you if you happen to be prosecuted later while doing something illegal such as extracting dmt. Providing a direct link to the website that could have provided direct evidence of your purchase puts them at risk as well, and it would be very unfair if they got duped too, because they have to be able to make a living too. But you will find that anything on this site is truthful and equally valuable. So, you got it right in the first place. And if you can read, there's no need to ask ur question in the first place. :P
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Sorry. Since you answered my question i'll just remove it before any of that ever does happen.
 
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Thanks for the replies guys.

I am prepared to make mistakes and waste bark, it is like learning anything new, it takes time and practice to get it right.

I have read every tek here, and I understand the basic chemistry of it but I was just worried about remnants of Lye still being present in the final product. I will looking in to washing it and I was going to re-x it anyway so that should help.

I am sure to ask a few more noob questions so forgive me in advance ;)
 
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WhereEaglesDare said:
Thanks for the replies guys.

I am prepared to make mistakes and waste bark, it is like learning anything new, it takes time and practice to get it right.

I have read every tek here, and I understand the basic chemistry of it but I was just worried about remnants of Lye still being present in the final product. I will looking in to washing it and I was going to re-x it anyway so that should help.

I am sure to ask a few more noob questions so forgive me in advance ;)
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Sodium carb washes really aren't necessary if you plan to re-x.

If a tek is performed correctly, NaOH contamination is really pretty unlikely. Add a re-x and it's damn near impossible. :)
 
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WhereEaglesDare said:
Awesome, re-x it is then. Just one or should I do a couple?
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Do a couple if it makes you feel better (or if you want really purdy crystals), but just one is plenty sufficient for removing any chance of lye contamination. I usually only do one re-x, to avoid the risk of losing spice.
 
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Oh yes, ever since my first experience I've felt the calling. However, I have to be sure it's not just my curiosity and that it genuinely feels like its "time again" otherwise it seems the molecule doesn't "talk" to me.

On a side note, I have noticed a lot more events occurring in my life which could be described as somewhat psychic, synchronistic, or paranormal. I also have random recall of dreams that I haven't remembered or thought about for years and years. I wonder if anyone else has experienced this phenomena?

It all works to constantly remind me that I will dive in again one day. I've thought about my first experience every day of my life since then.
 
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