Can people please just tell me entities are all our imagination

[Apoc]

OP, someone may tell you that entities are all in your imagination, but would that really give you any solace? Isn't your whole life occurring in your imagination? At least, your experience of it? What is your imagination? How is it even possible to experience these entities? I suppose we don't HAVE to accept that reality is stranger than we may have assumed before having experiences that psychedelics, and other extreme things provide. But if you care to look closely, there is no way around it.

 

[Jees]

...are you seriously saying that you think that Your "reality" can shift ... Or are you implying that your perception of reality is malleable and can change...

Sorry for my interruption:
There is:

Case A
1) a uniform reality
plus
2) our perception(s) of that uniform reality

or...

Case B
our perceptions only, that let us believe that a uniform reality exist.

Your question suggest that Case A is the only possibility. That can create confusion, like your post demonstrates. Case B is free from this confusion.

 

[universecannon]

universe cannon, are you seriously saying that you think that Your "reality" can shift after smoking dmt? Your post intrigued me because I have no idea what you are implying. Are you saying that you think that reality can change with a dmt trip? even after you've come down?

For example you are in a room with a circular table, you smoke spice, come down, and now the table is rectangular?

Or are you implying that your perception of reality is malleable and can change for the better/worse?

I believe the latter but I am quite interested in knowing if there are people here who actually think a Dmt trip can alter the reality in which they exist, after they have come back .

In which case I would ask, "So why are you still here typing on an internet forum".

I've seen "paranormal" things happen as have many here but no I was implying something more in line with the latter. Our conscious experience is like a lens and if you alter the nature of a lens then whatever reality you experience through it can change dramatically. Its not just your perception of the world that can change, but your entire sense of self, way of thinking, and so on. Mind can be like putty, so much so that it mine as well be the external world changing because you can experience facets of it that you didn't even know existed, in ways that you didn't know were possible. Not trying to scare you off, since this can all be well and good, but its also not something to take lightly

 

[cosmicflutterby]

I'm confused as to why you would want to be reassured that the entities are not real..... why bother trying to visit something that you do not want to believe in?.... not wishing to be offensive..... but perhaps if you are not willing to believe your experiences you may be better off going to the movies rather than smoking a very strong and powerful entheogen that WILL give you incredible visions of other-wordly beings.... Respect the substance.... respect the visions

 

[cosmicflutterby]

I've seen "paranormal" things happen as have many here but no I was implying something more in line with the latter. Our conscious experience is like a lens and if you alter the nature of a lens then whatever reality you experience through it can change dramatically. Its not just your perception of the world that can change, but your entire sense of self, way of thinking, and so on. Mind can be like putty, so much so that it mine as well be the external world changing because you can experience facets of it that you didn't even know existed, in ways that you didn't know were possible. Not trying to scare you off, since this can all be well and good, but its also not something to take lightly[/quote]

Nicely said Universecannon

 

[cosmicflutterby]

universe cannon, are you seriously saying that you think that Your "reality" can shift after smoking dmt? Your post intrigued me because I have no idea what you are implying. Are you saying that you think that reality can change with a dmt trip? even after you've come down?

For example you are in a room with a circular table, you smoke spice, come down, and now the table is rectangular?

Or are you implying that your perception of reality is malleable and can change for the better/worse?

I believe the latter but I am quite interested in knowing if there are people here who actually think a Dmt trip can alter the reality in which they exist, after they have come back .

In which case I would ask, "So why are you still here typing on an internet forum".

I've seen "paranormal" things happen as have many here but no I was implying something more in line with the latter. Our conscious experience is like a lens and if you alter the nature of a lens then whatever reality you experience through it can change dramatically. Its not just your perception of the world that can change, but your entire sense of self, way of thinking, and so on. Mind can be like putty, so much so that it mine as well be the external world changing because you can experience facets of it that you didn't even know existed, in ways that you didn't know were possible. Not trying to scare you off, since this can all be well and good, but its also not something to take lightly

Nicely said, Universecannon..... couldn't agree more

 

[anrchy]

I can understand needing some kind of comfort to make the experience less substantial therefor easier to shrug off. I have many times attached fears from rough experiences to future dosing. In fact I'm trying to overcome one right now from a dose quite awhile ago.

Take some time to out it all out of your mind and come back with a fresh perspective.

Fear is a choice.

 

[Jellyfox]

I was just curious because thats actually one of the things I thought of when I first smoked dmt. The possibility of completely changing your whole surroundings and altering the events that you experience after you take it.

I have heard an ole myth of a person who was very skilled with astral travel and meditation who claims to have blasted off and came back to a different house than were he smoked it. Sort of like using the dmt to teleport.

whether thats true there is no way to know but I like to think it could happen.

Its interesting you say that because I used to contemplate the possibility of supernatural/unexplainable occurrences happening after you have come back from the dmt. Particularly smoking extract, im not talking about huasca.

 

[Global]

Don't worry: squares will still be squares, circles will still be circles, and reality for all intents and purposes will remain pretty similar. There might be some "enhancements" to your perception including increased pattern detection, and notice how vibrant and detailed reality can actually be. The way psychedelics alter your perception of consensual reality after they've long worn off, is most notable in the increased pattern perception. I'm convinced that these patterns that crop up everywhere from the dirt to water droplets to paint on the wall to cement on the floor, or cells in your skin or whatever...that are all pretty similar - all of these patterns have always existed, but psychedelics train the eye to see order and logic where only haphazardness, chaos and randomness were detected before. Aside of just patterns, psychedelics can call your attention to details in reality that you may typically overlook. Psychedelics have a way of showing you things "under the microscope" so that when you're back to baseline, you've learned things about the world around you that you typically would have normally just filtered out. So many details get filtered out from our awareness in order to allow us to remain focused on something, and to avoid going crazy.

 

[○]

Don't worry: squares will still be squares, circles will still be circles, and reality for all intents and purposes will remain pretty similar. There might be some "enhancements" to your perception including increased pattern detection, and notice how vibrant and detailed reality can actually be. The way psychedelics alter your perception of consensual reality after they've long worn off, is most notable in the increased pattern perception. I'm convinced that these patterns that crop up everywhere from the dirt to water droplets to paint on the wall to cement on the floor, or cells in your skin or whatever...that are all pretty similar - all of these patterns have always existed, but psychedelics train the eye to see order and logic where only haphazardness, chaos and randomness were detected before. Aside of just patterns, psychedelics can call your attention to details in reality that you may typically overlook. Psychedelics have a way of showing you things "under the microscope" so that when you're back to baseline, you've learned things about the world around you that you typically would have normally just filtered out. So many details get filtered out from our awareness in order to allow us to remain focused on something, and to avoid going crazy.

BOOM





tat bows to the pattern

 

[Jellyfox]

I'm not worried now im bummed. I was hoping to smoke spice and come back having triangle shaped eyes.

Or maybe come back with a different colored shirt on?

 

[ithappenedat21]

What if it is both your "imagination" (whatever that is anyways, we haven't a clue) and "real entities"? Or something else entirely that transcends those arbitrarily labels? Regardless of any potential answer to these questions the experience and its affects on our consciousness will still be the same subjective phenomenon as it is now.

yeah could we get a bit into imagination. how even? i can truly imagine anything. and i'm real good at it. how are we doing it? imagination.

 

[Redguard]

What if it is both your "imagination" (whatever that is anyways, we haven't a clue) and "real entities"? Or something else entirely that transcends those arbitrarily labels? Regardless of any potential answer to these questions the experience and its affects on our consciousness will still be the same subjective phenomenon as it is now.

I don't mean this judgmentally, I just know how you feel since I've been there. Despite it being the most amazing and fun thing imaginable at times, DMT is very serious stuff and you can burn yourself with it if you act like its just a toy or all tulips and daisies. Your entire reality becomes malleable and can be re-programmed into more beneficial or detrimental patterns.

Over time its inevitable that you run into harsher experiences and some dark entities (whatever they are). This possibility is always there but there are ways to help avoid them or work through them if they arise (prep, set/setting, and integration are very useful tools). Some of these though can also be very important learning experiences.

Also, mixing it with adderral sounds horrible so I would personally avoid that combination.

Some people actually enjoy "burning" themselves with dmt

 

[AlbertKLloyd]

Which entities?
Did you ask for the name?
Is there a sigil or handsign?
A veve?

Some might be aspects of the mind, more so than say imagination which is more willful, but some might be well conserved in terms of property, sign and utility in terms of multiple experiences across cultures to the point of affirming their existence beyond individual souces.

 

[Eliteus]

I'm not as experienced as MOST of the people on here BUT to me i don't believe all of it is in imagination. How could I possibly entities that many others have seen?...also after each trip i research what i seen. You will be very suprised on what things you saw when you had no prior knowledge of. Like my first one was when i seen the flower of life on my carpet(had never seen this before). THAT was my dead give away there is a lot more to DMT than some would think.

 

[endlessness]

Very relevant to the OP: DMT-Nexus Wiki:Health and Safety - DMT-Nexus Wiki

 

[Tonytone]

I always have the feeling of a presence or observer during my experiences. Most of the time I dont see anything visual to suggest other than the occasional predator style outline on flat surfaces such as a wall or door. I have had a couple iffy experiences due to a recreational approach on two occasions and in both it felt like I was being observed by a universal or non-definable source. And in both I got the impression that whatever it was watching me was MOST DEFINITELY not in the precarious situation I found myself in. That whatever was watching was not helpless at all, that it was almost amused at my discomfort in the increasingly saturated and overly-complex world around me. I could just be grasping at straws here but it appeared as a lesson for dabbling, for thinking I could dominate my experience if I just achieve all set and setting objectives. Whenever I feel like I might be getting the hang of it (so to speak) , something or someone scares the S*** outta me and whoops my butt across the universe... (so to speak)

IMO there is something waaay too complex and beyond our normal perception for there NOT to be some form of consciousness there, be it internal or external.

 

[--Shadow]

I'm confused as to why you would want to be reassured that the entities are not real..... why bother trying to visit something that you do not want to believe in?.... not wishing to be offensive..... but perhaps if you are not willing to believe your experiences you may be better off going to the movies rather than smoking a very strong and powerful entheogen that WILL give you incredible visions of other-wordly beings.... Respect the substance.... respect the visions

My guess is that it's the same reason we want to be assured that the scary movie we just saw with a monster in it isn't real. It's would be a terrifying life for me if I still believe Freddy Kruger was real.
Just because I know that Freddy isn't real (or any monsters from the movies), it doesn't take away from the excitement and fear I experience watching a scary movie.

This is my subjective view anyways.

I'm with you in respect

 

[INFINITATION]

Hi,

I don't have any personal experience with mixing adderal and DMT. However I have gone off the deep end with adderal, and meth for that matter. What I can tell you is uppers such as adderal and meth are serious dark substances. I only mixed the uppers with psychedelics once. I dropped a few tabs of LSD one time and after a few hours I did some adderal...it spun my trip a full 180 and straight into an anxiety filled nightmare. It honestly scared the crap out of me. I can't imagine what bringing a substance like adderal with me into the DMT world....that must have been terrifying to say the least.

Compared to a lot of people on this nexus I have little experience with DMT, only a hand full of trips and one full blast off. But I do know the power of DMT and you have to be careful with what you bring with you. Psychedelics have a way of clashes horribly with uppers. As far as are entities real? I truly believe they are, the one I met was a kind of goddess of love and sex, she showed me things about the negativities of playing with uppers such as adderal and meth. After that I dropped that stuff like a hot potato. I put up a description of my DMT trip that broke my meth ties if you want to read my experience.

I know how a negative experience can weigh on your mind, I hope your mind can figure out the meaning behind your negative experience so you can finally find some peace within it. Sometimes I find that you learn more from a negative experience then you do a positive one.
Best of luck to you my friend

 

[Orion]

Can people please just tell me entities are all our imagination

It's all in your head ya big hippy :thumb_up: