I enjoy being sober. Life is exciting. The ups and downs are well received during my experience as a human. For me the psychedelic experience is only a small part of it, the integration work afterwards is where it all comes into play.
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i have done this before with LSD , dosing everyday for a few months
yet the experience got only weaker everyday,
life was no doubt extremly exciting
i have done everything imaginable on LSD , sex , social interaction , driving , running , bodybuilding , reading books to what not , even listening to self help tapes
this was about 9 years back , i was younger and really excited
i am planning to do something something similar to with rue and fumerate , yet i am not sure , i want to cook food everyday considering the dietary restrictions since i'll be doing full doses everyday
i guess i'll start the journey soon within a month or so , my only fear is i might die younger considering rue at full doses everyday might eventually be toxic , but who cares if each moment is totally enjoyed i don't mind dying young
i need this :twisted:
yessssssssssssssssssss
edit : i have recently brewed the strongest brew ever , like honey
yet the experience got only weaker everyday,
life was no doubt extremly exciting
i have done everything imaginable on LSD , sex , social interaction , driving , running , bodybuilding , reading books to what not , even listening to self help tapes
this was about 9 years back , i was younger and really excited
i am planning to do something something similar to with rue and fumerate , yet i am not sure , i want to cook food everyday considering the dietary restrictions since i'll be doing full doses everyday
i guess i'll start the journey soon within a month or so , my only fear is i might die younger considering rue at full doses everyday might eventually be toxic , but who cares if each moment is totally enjoyed i don't mind dying young
i need this :twisted:
yessssssssssssssssssss
edit : i have recently brewed the strongest brew ever , like honey
Infectedstyle
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Sure sounds good to be tripping a lot. I guess you can go crazy on different combos. I will try microdosing mushrooms soon. A few attempts worked out very succesfully.
No you don't lol.
Nope. I take shrooms in nature and LSD at parties for a reason. LSD is the experience you are looking for my friend. Unlike shrooms, where shit gets weird and people weirder LSD is a very clear experience. Perfect clarity and control. No emotions in the normal sense. Almost makes you autistic, if you will. You can interact with people socially without a problem unlike with mushrooms. LSD is to me what retinol is for people with ADHD. It makes me think clear with great visual effects. On normal dosages, I could use it and no one would know I'm on it. I'd probably act saner on it than sober lol. LSD is the experience you are looking for. Though I only use it on parties and agree it would feel lonely if you use it in daily life by yourself.
But in the end, soberness is the perfect state of mind. This is the biggest lesson I learn from psychedelics. I learn to appreciate soberness each time I return. That's why I don't have the tendancy to drink, smoke etc. I am pretty much sober all year round other than the occasional DMT, LSD and shroom trip. The most common fear people have with psychedelics, as nice as they may be, is what if they don't get back to normal. Psychedelics are like taking a holiday from reality. It's nice. Because its temporary. But in the end, everyone wants to get back home.
You saying you are looking to extent the DMT experience forever tells you don't have much experience with long lasting trips. Correct?
Thats weird. Usually LSD only works properly for 2-3 trips after each other (max 2 days). At the second trip halve effect is felt, at the third nearly none at the forth all interesting effect is lost. I tried this ones. How could could take it for several months non-stop?
Why do Rue + extracted DMT if you fear possible toxic effect instead of traditional Ayahuasca DMT brew, which is considered healthy for daily use? Not caring about dying younger for the joy and such? Wow, so not on the same page here. Such different view and mindset on DMT. But that's ok I guess, to each his own. After all, life is one big experiment. Thats why we are here.
:thumb_up:Pandora said:As far as I can determine, humans require contrast in order to create meaning.
This is part and parcel of what integration is about and why it is so important, . . . in my opinion.
To stay like this, . . . that goes against everything that nature shows us. Also, after some interminable period time what used to be novel, delightful, Heaven, Enlightenment or whatever, now becomes . . . well anywhere from familiar to boring to Hellish. Ahh, the human condition. Ain't it grand?
I would encourage folks to not try to chase any DMT or other psychedelic experiences. Nothing wrong with frequent tripping (or achieving a mystical state or "enlightenment," or traveling the bardo realms or w/e) if you feel the call and are healthy in mind, body, set, setting, etc. But, I do think most folks will agree that the real work or benefits achieved come during the integration phase. Growth is never easy and for sure it is never static.
"Humans require contrast in order to create meaning" - Pandora.
Quote of the week!
If you gain any real insights in your psychedelic travels, even if you only trip once in your life, then this enhanced perspective will enrich your experience in the world, every moment of every day, for the rest of your life.
I think we might actually have it backwards
What if our sober consensus 'reality' state is actually the real altered state, and these glimpses of higher perception are like brief windows into some of the relics of what we once were capable of? It's pretty well established that, for whatever reason, the rapid expansion of the human neural system stalled a few hundred thousand years ago and began to contract... and the ancients weren't kidding when they regarded their ancestors as far more advanced in terms of consciousness than themselves, and regarded humans today as ever more out of tune with the nature of things.
This makes more sense to me than the idea that we are tapping into new, superior perceptual abilities that just happen to keep evolving for whatever reason, even though they have almost always remained dormant throughout our evolution since we mostly haven't bothered to ever even use them until now, and even then only ever so often. This is one issue I have with the 8-circuit model (which I'm still a big fan of). It doesn't seem to make any sense on an evolutionary level for the higher 'circuits' to basically just be lying there until we find the tools or techniques to access them. How did they evolve in the first place without us even being aware of them?
What if our sober consensus 'reality' state is actually the real altered state, and these glimpses of higher perception are like brief windows into some of the relics of what we once were capable of? It's pretty well established that, for whatever reason, the rapid expansion of the human neural system stalled a few hundred thousand years ago and began to contract... and the ancients weren't kidding when they regarded their ancestors as far more advanced in terms of consciousness than themselves, and regarded humans today as ever more out of tune with the nature of things.
This makes more sense to me than the idea that we are tapping into new, superior perceptual abilities that just happen to keep evolving for whatever reason, even though they have almost always remained dormant throughout our evolution since we mostly haven't bothered to ever even use them until now, and even then only ever so often. This is one issue I have with the 8-circuit model (which I'm still a big fan of). It doesn't seem to make any sense on an evolutionary level for the higher 'circuits' to basically just be lying there until we find the tools or techniques to access them. How did they evolve in the first place without us even being aware of them?
jin said:
Well apart from the bizarre intentions there (I guess you're joking)...People say rue is toxic a lot and it seems to just be a common misunderstanding. I've never seen any solid evidence that rue is toxic at the doses people take, and the worries about vasicine and vasicinone are only really valid if you're pregnant... otherwise, those might even be beneficial components of rue.
Some of us here have even taken rue or it's harmalas daily, even in active doses, for very long periods of time to no ill effect...so long as they weren't ingesting things that react negatively with it. I think the vile taste and potency of rue, along with its higher harmaline content (which is much more potent than harmine and possibly a bit less 'smooth' ) also contributes to this notion that it is toxic. It is way easier to overdo it with rue than it is with caapi, since it's so potent...Heavy psychedelic doses of either of those could easily be interpreted as 'toxic' in their effects, even though those effects occur at doses well below toxic levels. But when you think about it...all sorts of psychedelics get extremely uncomfortable at big doses that still are far from being physically toxic. Harmalas just have a smaller gap between psychedelic levels and uncomfortable effects, and often they overlap if you don't ameliorate the nausea in certain ways. But navigating that to a comfortable point can be figured out pretty easily with practice.
Ouroboros777
Rising Star
Sorry to bump an old thread but this one caught my attention.
Are you referring to the peak as how you want to stay? Reading through many members posts here, it seems as if the user "leaves" the body and meets entities in other locations. That would mean that the body would be incapacitated, it seems that most people seem to 'lay back and close their eyes' to experience the full blown journey. Has anyone journeyed with eyes open?
Although I have never done DMT, I did have one strange occurrence occur a few years ago.. I have never had this happen before or since, but, I dreamed that I was actually on a ship with a two entities, they seemed professional. It was weird as I am not all too interested in space or alien 'ships' or anything of that sort, but there it stood and there I was. Anyways, as I was sitting there, I was told/informed/knew that we were heading back, and then I sat back in the chair and the scene began to transform into very complex geometric shapes, like really complex stuff, I don't know how to explain it. I was mesmerized, it was beautiful! Now here is where the craziness occurred. As I am conscious, watching this scene, beautiful fractals, a picture slowly forms. I watch and to my amazement everything materializes into my room, and I am conscious laying in my bed looking at the walls! I was awake/conscious the whole time though... so I never really "woke up". It was the first and only time I went to sleep, became conscious of being in a dream, clearly dreaming, and then had my eyes open as I would normally "wake up" and have that "feeling" of "waking up", but with eyes open and conscious the whole time. It was bizarre. Also within a day or two of that experience, I remember being conscious of this dark amber color orb in my room, as if it was a conscious entity and we were communicating by sensing each other. Interesting thing was at the time.. no hallucinogens were taken.
I think we can slowly increase our vibrational frequency within our human shell with conscious intention on sensing our self and make ourselves more aware of subtle changes to frequency. I think I am always "staying like this".. having a permanent state of mind of hallucinating... and no that doesn't mean people are morphing... it's a state of mind that knows I have absolutely no idea what is going on, but there is more going on on Earth than meets theeye I. It has something to do with dimensional perception and vibrating energetic frequencies. I then breathe in deep, slow, and let it out deep and slow, and feel the oxygen course through my blood. I realize that I am alive, sentient, conscious, and I sense. And sense. and Sense.
And then things start to make sense...
Are you referring to the peak as how you want to stay? Reading through many members posts here, it seems as if the user "leaves" the body and meets entities in other locations. That would mean that the body would be incapacitated, it seems that most people seem to 'lay back and close their eyes' to experience the full blown journey. Has anyone journeyed with eyes open?
Although I have never done DMT, I did have one strange occurrence occur a few years ago.. I have never had this happen before or since, but, I dreamed that I was actually on a ship with a two entities, they seemed professional. It was weird as I am not all too interested in space or alien 'ships' or anything of that sort, but there it stood and there I was. Anyways, as I was sitting there, I was told/informed/knew that we were heading back, and then I sat back in the chair and the scene began to transform into very complex geometric shapes, like really complex stuff, I don't know how to explain it. I was mesmerized, it was beautiful! Now here is where the craziness occurred. As I am conscious, watching this scene, beautiful fractals, a picture slowly forms. I watch and to my amazement everything materializes into my room, and I am conscious laying in my bed looking at the walls! I was awake/conscious the whole time though... so I never really "woke up". It was the first and only time I went to sleep, became conscious of being in a dream, clearly dreaming, and then had my eyes open as I would normally "wake up" and have that "feeling" of "waking up", but with eyes open and conscious the whole time. It was bizarre. Also within a day or two of that experience, I remember being conscious of this dark amber color orb in my room, as if it was a conscious entity and we were communicating by sensing each other. Interesting thing was at the time.. no hallucinogens were taken.
I think we can slowly increase our vibrational frequency within our human shell with conscious intention on sensing our self and make ourselves more aware of subtle changes to frequency. I think I am always "staying like this".. having a permanent state of mind of hallucinating... and no that doesn't mean people are morphing... it's a state of mind that knows I have absolutely no idea what is going on, but there is more going on on Earth than meets the
And then things start to make sense...
darklordsson
Rising Star
anrchy said:
Agreed with my buddy anrchy here, integration is crucial. Being in that state all the time, I dunno I would get side tracked a lot imho, lol:grin: Its good to be reminded, not bombarded by what "IS"....
Namaste,
---dls---
I think that the mental state of dmt can have a clarity which could hold advantage in a multitude of situations in life, though as far as constantly being in that state all the time- it seems a bit of a waste to me.. what with the gift of having such a beautiful physical realm to explore and a bizarre human consciousness to get to grips with. dmt plugs us into eternity - and the more i experience that feeling the more I appreciate the finite experience that is life here on earth.. and the more I appreciate the finite experience of being human and being imperfectly perfect! the imperfections and ability to make mistakes are beautiful in themselves and worth embracing. the lack of clarity that we experience between psychedelic usage can at times even act as a push to better ourselves to achieve these states we desire
