Can´t breakthrough with DMT with any methods- please need help

[vm82]

Hi everyone.

i am new here on DMT_nexus. I had never a breaktthrough on DMT.

First i will write something about how many times i have try DMT and in wich diffrent Method.

Ayauasca 4 times in Germany with Shamans. every time 3 cups. Othe pepple were in hyperspace after 1 cup. (sometimes nothing sometimes Only Tunnel and visuals. )

Ayauasca 1 Time in Peru with Shamans. (Only Tunnel and visuals. )

DMT FB 2 diffrent sources. 1 gr yellow crystals and 1 gr white
I try with small bong 7 times with sandwich method. from 30mg up to 80 mg.

1 time for 1 second i saw a face from a alien many visuals and diffrent rooms. but i was aware that i was lying on my bed . All other times it was less efeccts.

I try 2 times methpip. with this method no results.

The most time i try was with mighty maybe 15 times .30-80mg . 3-4 hits but only visuals. see some rooms. bur no breakthrouh.


I am a little bit sad. i have waste nearly 2 gr of DMT. i still have maybe 0,4gr


I dont know what i make wrong. I would be very thankful if anybody can help me.


I have here now 1 gr of Changa. I dont have try it at the moment because i search for the effectivst method to vape Changa. The Changa is 1:1 . Maybe i want try it today the first time with the Mighty.

 

[dragonrider]

You probably where pretty close.

You could try vaping DMT or doing changa, on ayahuasca or shrooms.
It is easier getting through the gates when you are already halfway there.

 

[vm82]

I dont know when i have the next opportunity to have an Ayausca ceremony.


"Brennendes Wasser" have send me a message but i cant´t reply him. I want try his creation of the Spice Rotator. I have order now the stuff to build it.

I will try it then again with the DMT Freebase.



But i still have here Change wich i have never try.

What are the experience of you all with Change 1:1. Wich Method would be better?

I have here a little bong or the Mighty.

 

[VibeSurfer]

Wow, it seems like you have tried quite a lot of things. That really is unfortunate, but your perseverance will be well worth it.

Some troubleshooting advice:

Before smoking, practice your inhale technique. Use a stopwatch or the stopwatch feature on a smartphone to time how long you are actually holding your breath for. Aim to be able to hold your breath for 15-20 seconds. That is a very long time, much longer than it feels. Your entire breathing process should match what it would be if you were actually smoking DMT. So take a long, slow inhale over the course of 10-15 seconds, and see if you can hold that breath for 15-20 seconds.

 

[dragonrider]

You mean changa?

Yes, that could be worth a try, because it builds up slower. So it means you have more time to quickly inhale as much DMT as possible.

 

[Prima Materia]

What I use and have very good results with is a simple relatively small bong.
I always put my DMT on leaf (for example damiana leaves). This method is called enhanced leaf.
Once the DMT is on leaves it's very easy to handle and very easy to weigh doses.
When smoking this I make sure I don't put the flames directly onto leaves but slightly above the leaves, so that when you inhale the hot air that travels through the pipe to you lungs will vaporize the DMT on the leaf. After I feel the DMT is mostly vaporized I smoke the leaves as well.

 

[vm82]

Wow, it seems like you have tried quite a lot of things. That really is unfortunate, but your perseverance will be well worth it.

Some troubleshooting advice:

Before smoking, practice your inhale technique. Use a stopwatch or the stopwatch feature on a smartphone to time how long you are actually holding your breath for. Aim to be able to hold your breath for 15-20 seconds. That is a very long time, much longer than it feels. Your entire breathing process should match what it would be if you were actually smoking DMT. So take a long, slow inhale over the course of 10-15 seconds, and see if you can hold that breath for 15-20 seconds.

What i have done. I only have hold the vape 10 seconds. for me would be no problem let it 20 seconds inside. thats what i will do when i try the Changa in the next days.
But still not sure if small bong or Mighty would be better.

When you smoke Changa you need like with DMT FB keep distance from the fire of the lighter?
Or it dosent matter with changa?

 

[vm82]

You mean changa?

Yes, that could be worth a try, because it builds up slower. So it means you have more time to quickly inhale as much DMT as possible.

Ha ha ha yea i mean changa. these days i will try it .

 

[vm82]

Wow, it seems like you have tried quite a lot of things. That really is unfortunate, but your perseverance will be well worth it.

Some troubleshooting advice:

Before smoking, practice your inhale technique. Use a stopwatch or the stopwatch feature on a smartphone to time how long you are actually holding your breath for. Aim to be able to hold your breath for 15-20 seconds. That is a very long time, much longer than it feels. Your entire breathing process should match what it would be if you were actually smoking DMT. So take a long, slow inhale over the course of 10-15 seconds, and see if you can hold that breath for 15-20 seconds.

What i have done. I only have hold the vape 10 seconds. for me would be no problem let it 20 seconds inside. thats what i will do when i try the Changa in the next days.
But still not sure if small bong or Mighty would be better.

When you smoke Changa you need like with DMT FB keep distance from the fire of the lighter?
Or it dosent matter with changa?

I think my mistake was that i have done the sandwich method wrong. the bottom was less material. and i have inhalte to strong and not slowly.


Thank you

 

[misohim]

Everyone is over complicating this, just put it in a bong, milk it slow, and rip it all in one hit. If you don't get where you want then smoke a bigger one next time.

 

[Hailstorm]

The e-mesh method is very reliable, OP. There is a reason we have a gigantic thread dedicated to it - check it out.

 

[abrelosojos]

This is how i have structured my DMT ingestion methods in my head.

Oral:
- Shrooms (4-Aco-DMT, 4-HO-DMT): Easiest way - Lemon Tek Tea, Zero Nausea. Have hit Nice plateaus on 5+ grams tea without ego-death. Great Teacher.
- Aya: Have tried less than spoon of honey, just wanted to feel the molecule, It varies greatly from recipe to recipe. The % of Harmalas to DMT, are key. as set & setting. As it´s closely linked to a cultural practice, i´m open to do it only, respecting those traditions.
- Pharma: Never tried.

Vaporized/Smoked:
-Freebase: Had three options in my head. A. Purchase a Bong / B. Purchase a Vapor Genie or HealthStone / C. Purchase a Vaporizer.

Went with C. Started with the cheapeast option (Yocan Evolve) & hit a Breaktrough on my second attempt. when i wanted to upgrade i searched at Propello´s E-Mesh thread. But went for a Crucible for simplicity. DTV4 specifically, but all seem to work great depending on your budget. SAI, etc. A little more efficient than Yocan, but that´s it. 50-80 mg. You should breaktrough. E-Mesh seem super efficient. Some cooler equipment as the mighty look great. But dedicated use is an issue for me.

- Changa: I´ve had 4 or 5 changa mixtures from different sources, all have varied a lot. from really body heavy experiences to light, meditation helping admixtures. I´ve smoked it with Marijuana, i´ve mixed it with tabacco, or just by itself in a small bong. It´s amazing, etc. great tool, but the experience is different for me. As Psilo is different from DMT. Break-Throughs are amazing but there is a lot to learn all around from changa.

-Bufo(5-Meo-DMT): Hardest Hitting, life changing experince. Set & Setting are super important. RESPECT.


I have to agree that E-mesh seems the foolproof method. The simplest is overshooting with a Yocan.

 

[sbios]

If, considering you get the right amount of vapor in and it's not the issue with burning it. Then here are some preparations I found useful: meditate and reduce entertainments and stimuli beforehand for the day or at least hour or so. Do some deep breathings and when you take the last inhale which you hold as long as possible.