cant seem to break through

[funatpeters]

hey all I started with a relatively mid dose 30 mg or so. Lots of colors and cool stuff but I really wanted to break through so I upped the dose to 60 WOWOWEEEWA crazy colors and patterns but no break through.
-I was using orbitz vaping device on low setting
-I would take consistent massive inhales for about 90 percent of lung capacity then 10 for some o2 then hold as long as I could
-I repeated this process 6 times before I finally couldnt function enough to take another hit.
-What am I doing wrong here how can I improve tia

 

[acacian]

Sounds like an issue of efficacy I think. 60mg is a big dose and can produce 15 minutes of white light and all things impossible. Even 30mg should be enough to get through the veil. I wouldn't up the dose to 60mg if you've never had a breakthrough before. Get good at vaporizing the minimum needed for breakthrough so that you can assess whether your technique is good etc. Play around with different settings. Thing is, with 60mg its possible you'll get there even if you didn't properly vaporize the DMT, so you might end up supplementing poor settings/technique with more DMT and wasting it in the process/allowing the vaporization issue to continue.

 

[funatpeters]

thanks so much for your help I looked around and heard good things about this vaporizer to just put it on the first setting and roll but after trying two different dosages and gettings similar results its tough to say im doing it right. I did it with two friends both times and reports were lack luster each of the times. I might try upping the temp and see if that helps? usually ive been told dmt likes lower temps but Im unsure what else to do other than get another rig or try some other option. Like maybe when I pull Im pulling too long heating it up too much? Im taking like as big as I can lung hits so maybe smaller hits? I donno im clueless might try some new techniques on 30 till something unexpected happens

 

[acacian]

30mg is a pretty good litmus test as to whether it’s working. I don’t use e vapes so it’s hard for me to help beyond that I’m sorry. What plant you using? Confusa for example can contain around 50:50 NMT to DMT so would require a larger dose for if your extract has a lot of NMT.

Have you searched the forums for instances of people using the device you are using?

 

[funatpeters]

the substance was like a white rock that browned slightly in the first little while after I got it. It certainly smelled like DMT. The gal I got it from said that the chef had used a chemical called tryptamine in order to make it so not an organic extraction. I thought it was nonsense but apparently its like totally legal to buy from chemical companies. Anywhosies what method do you use and find most successful?

 

[DeeMenTalist]

If your synthetic stuff is 100% legit then your vaping technique does not work. For example, I've tried one time 6 years ago 30mg via GVG(if you don't know what it is, search on the forum, most legit and efficient device for DMT!) in one hit and basically blacked out for half an hour. It was super intense and deep. If you blast off only at home then get some proper vaping device and master the technique. Because 60mg is just overkill and a total waste of spice.

 

[Transform]

Take a look at some of @VoyagerGrey's posts regarding the use of the Divine Crossing V5. There are a number of points raised there that should help you to fine tune your vaping technique.

It sounds like you're running your device at too low a temperature, and/or your deep pulls are cooling things down too much, reducing efficacy.