Chacruna with MAOI manerix (moclobemide)

[Jackinbox]

I have been using the MAOI antidepressant Manerix for a few weeks now and I'm preparing some juice from Chacruna leaves in a crockpot and wondering what I should do with it. I have some caapi leave too but I'm not sure it's a good idea to mix caapi with another MAOI. Manerix is a fantastic meditation and it being a MAOI similar to caapi, I expect it would do the trick with my chacruna preparation. I never got into psychedelics realms with caapi and chacruna as I onl used them for meditation but this time I would like to go the other side.

Anyone used Manerix in combination with DMT? I am on a daily dose of 300 mg but I used up frequently up to 900 mg in one day without ill effects. The effect is less spacey than caapi and last longer. So says that caapi is the true teacher of Ayahuasca but it seems more to me that DMT is what matter and any safe MAOI would do the trick.

 

[Jees]

Curious how that goes.
Wikipedia says that 300 mg (prolly at once) takes down 80 % MAOA + 30 % MAOB.
You gonna use that as a starting point?

 

[Jackinbox]

Curious how that goes.
Wikipedia says that 300 mg (prolly at once) takes down 80 % MAOA + 30 % MAOB.
You gonna use that as a starting point?

Do we have similar data for caapi? I don't think so.

I did small dose of shrooms on Manerix a few times this week. Nothing to get psychedelics effect, just enough to get a mood and energy boost. It was very clean and a bit longer lasting than without Manerix.

I found this report on DMT and Manerix:

A Psychic Vivisection?

It's not very encouraging. It seems that it would be safer to taper of Manerix and do the DMT with the Caapi. Also, I might obtain some DMT crystal to smoke and do that instead of drinking the Chacruna.

 

[Jackinbox]

Those reports with Manerix are a bit more positive:

First Moclobemide test - Pharmahuasca - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

Oral DMT (with Moclobemide) - first time - The Realm of Shamans - The Psychedelic Experience - Shroomery Message Board

Some Background I've been fascinated by the psychedelic experience since I took my first RoboTrip 4 or 5 years ago. Since then, I've ingested as many different psychedelics as I could get my hands

www.shroomery.org

This report said it was fine but a bit "souless":

moclobemide first, then caapi and spice - Pharmahuasca - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

This one is positive but he said it was a bit too much of an experience (smoking dmt + manerix) and lasted too long (30 minutes)

Here there be dragons... - Pharmahuasca - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

So I think I will taper it off before trying any DMT.

 

[Jees]

At 18 min 35 he suggests 150 mg moclobemide to activate 150 mg dmtfumarate.

 

[Pharmacognosis]

150 mg Moclobemide 30min before 50mg smoked DMT in a dark closet with door shut provided a extremely clean feeling almost transparent bodyload, and silent communication with a lineage of past deceased Amazonian shamans who appeared to be very disappointed in me for using a synthetic pharmahuasca door to access their space. There was no hyperslap or punishments for the transgression, they just seemed very unimpressed and scornful of my shamanic aspirations. This was maybe 5 years ago. It extended the smoked effects to 30 minutes.

I repeated the experiement with oral pharmahuasca, the results were similar but instead of a train of ghostly dissapproving headress wearing witchdoctor types I encountered the Mother Goddess or Aya spirit (somehow without the vine) and she was very unhappy with me and the experience bordered on egodeath the whole time and was very unpleasant. Eventually the reprimands from women in my life stopped (the goddess hopped through them for a form) and I was assigned to a gnome-like entity to babysit me while my third eye was being drilled into by a large machine operated by a crew of similar gnomes. The same irritated impatient attitude was present in both experiences.