Changa and amitriptyline ?

[omega-scar]

Hello. I've got my hands on some Changa from a friend. I have previously smoked freebase DMT but never done Changa and I'm on a fairly high dose of amitriptiline (150 mg) which I must say is working great. I've been taking it for a few years now. So the problem is I feel very tempted to try Changa but stopping my antidepressant is a pretty lengthy process since it clears away very slowly so I would need first to tapper it for a few weeks and then stop it for another 2 weeks in order to clear it from my system. I am very tempted tp try to do Changa on top of it. What do you guys (and gals ) think ?

 

[Pumpy]

I've heard that you can't trip on ssri s, so i think you might regret wasting the changa.

 

[Varallo]

Combining amitriptyline with harmala alkaloids (such as those from Peganum harmala or Banisteriopsis caapi) is potentially dangerous, do not use your Changa unless absolutely certain that what you actually have is exchanged leave (without harmalas) and not Changa (with harmalas).

 

[omega-scar]

Combining amitriptyline with harmala alkaloids (such as those from Peganum harmala or Banisteriopsis caapi) is potentially dangerous, do not use your Changa unless absolutely certain that what you actually have is exchanged leave (without harmalas) and not Changa (with harmalas).

Hi. Thanks for taking your time to answer. Is there a practical way to find out if what I actually have is exchanged leave ? Can you clarify a bit what you mean by 'exchanged leave' ?

 

[redbird]

Hi. Thanks for taking your time to answer. Is there a practical way to find out if what I actually have is exchanged leave ? Can you clarify a bit what you mean by 'exchanged leave' ?

He meant enhanced leaf, aka herbs with only dmt added.
Point being consuming any harmalas/maois with amiltriptyline still in your system could have severely negative consequences, potentially including death.
Don't risk it.
To Varallo's point, only proceed if you made the changa and know that it's just dmt on herbs with no harmalas added or maoi containing herbs (for example but not exhaustive: caapi leaves) in the blend.

 

[redbird]

Also, I would not quit your seemingly effective medication just to smoke changa. Instead, work with your provider to develop an end game strategy.
Having been on all types of antidepressants in my life, I understand how helpful they can be. I also know that they aren't a true solution. They tend to just make you feel okay about your problems instead of making you feel confident enough to solve them. If you want to get off antidepressants, that's not a bad idea.
My strongly held but personal opinion about those drugs is that they should not be used longer than necessary to stabilize a crisis and allow for more sustainable, non-pharmaceutical interventions to take effect.
If your provider intends to keep you on medication for the entirety of the time you are under their care, my opinion is that you should stay on your medication while you look for other providers willing to explore other long term options.