changa question

[redeyes drag on]

so SWIM will be using 10x caapi in the changa, is there any herbs that should not be combined with this due to the MAOI?
specifically:
wild lettuce
California poppy
mugwort
white sage
calea zacatechichi
cannabis

also how careful must one be eating or drinking alcohol when this amount of caapi is smoked?

 

[Mumffy]

Be careful with Wild Lettuce as it contains hyscomine or something equally poisoning. Also, the white sage has a high thujone content which can cause convulsions on it's own, not to mention with liver inhibitors!

California poppy is antimicrobial and anti inflammatory and calming so it sounds like a damned good mix-in! Idk if it contains anything harmful however, id get a second opinion.

I'd avoid alcohol altogether.

 

[acacian]

I had a have had both a beautiful trip and then one that didn't feel right at all from combining changa with poppy tea.... the strong opiate effect didn't feel complimenting to the changa at all and made my body feel a bit sick. i imagine using the dried leaves for making a changa mix would be a different story.. although i wouldn't recommend adding the actual latex from pods

 

[Mumffy]

The California poppy contains no morphine or codeine, it is completely non-opiate ; )

 

[redeyes drag on]

thanks for the advice I think I'll stay away from the wild lettuce and sage then. The california poppy I got isn't leaves it's a bunch of little sticks I tried it on its own and it gave slight sedation and something similar to a mild thc high

 

[AluminumFoilRobots]

re: wild lettuce:

I believe that the active compound in this plant is a complex of chemicals known as lacticarium, which contains adenosine receptor agonists, ie it mimics the feeling of natural sleepyness. It doesn't contain tropanes... and would be entirely safe to add to the changa mix. However, it tastes awful, so maybe something nicer tasting?

 

[redeyes drag on]

Yeah, I tried the wild lettuce on its own the smoke was quite harsh and didn't taste that good, I felt no effects either. Any feedback on the white sage also lavender before I order some?

 

[AluminumFoilRobots]

The only way I got the (mild) effects from wild lettuce was making a resinous extract and eating about a gram of it. It just makes one sleepy.

I think the lavender would be nice, I've inhaled the smoke from white sage and it was a bit harsh.