Clear Goo, Re-Crystallization, and a Hair Dryer.

[primordium]

Question 1: After freeze precipitating for 24+ hours, I pulled out a small mason jar and saw small white circles at the bottom. I decanted and put the jar a few feet away from a fan. About 20 minutes later, all there was at the bottom was a clear goo. What gives?

Question 2: I am re-crystallizing the remaining jars in beakers now and I was just wondering how much NPS is a good amount to make sure crystals crash out. The NPS is about as deep as 3/4 of a thumbnail; is that right, too much, or too little?

Question 3: Rather than using a fan, could I instead use a hair dryer on the cold/air setting to evaporate the NPS after I'm done freeze precipitating? Just wondering if anyone ran into any problems doing that.

Thanks!

 

[DreaMTripper]

Was it evaporated to supersaturation? Nice and wispy? It may have been melted and needs to recrystallize.
A hairdryer on cool should be ok but they are quite powerful so maybe try from further than a few feet away.
The ammount of NPS seems fine as long as its supersaturated.
Report back.

 

[primordium]

Was it evaporated to supersaturation? Nice and wispy?

I'm not sure it was evaporated to supersaturation. I did little to no pre-evaporation. With so many mason jars from my 100g extraction, the amount of naphtha per jar seemed reasonable.

When I blew on some jars, they definitely became cloudy. When they were in the freezer, there were white clumps floating through and stuck to the bottom. When I decanted, I still saw some white at the bottom. Then, I set the fan on one and I was only left with clear goo.

When I re-crystallized my other jars, though, there were definitely impurities there (including white liquid globs, which I think might have seemed like white crystalline DMT when frozen).

Report back.

Will do. I plan to decant tomorrow and experiment with blow drying (though I might stick a fan on some, too). I have three beakers altogether now (of varying sizes). I definitely see white in them now (I haven't disturbed any since I placed them in there). I will be freeze precipitating for 25 hours (if my plan holds).

 

[Entheogenerator]

Read this thread. I hope you haven't been throwing that goo out...

As far as the re-x goes, just put two small beakers in a saucepan full of water (DMT in one, NPS in the other), heat them up until the DMT melts and the NPS is hot, and add hot NPS slowly until everything is dissolved. I don't know exactly how much you will need, but probably not very much at all.

I'm not sure if recrystallizing will remove NMT from DMT/NMT goo though (which is what it sounds like you've got), I've never tried. But I have seen a couple other methods for removing it that are a little more complicated, so I would guess re-xing might not do the trick.

In the future, it is recommended that people do a search and browse the forum a bit before posting a new thread. Most of the time you will find your answer that way. This particular topic has been covered extensively.

 

[DreaMTripper]

You can seperate it using room temp naptha you have to watch so the yellow oil stays but the dmt dissolves. Room temp naptha and a steady increase of volume.
Search acacia simplex to come across this method. This acacia constantly has 80/20 dmt/nmt . There is a member who has extensive experience with the extraction actually called simplexus iirc

 

[primordium]

Read this thread. I hope you haven't been throwing that goo out...

In the future, it is recommended that people do a search and browse the forum a bit before posting a new thread. Most of the time you will find your answer that way. This particular topic has been covered extensively.

I did not intend to duplicate other questions, especially "goo" ones. However, whenever I saw pictures of goo, it was colored, whereas mine is colorless, so I was worried I had just dried up lye or something dangerous.

Thank you for your help!

 

[Cosmic Spore]

Read this thread.

and this: DMT crytals melting
I think it could have to do with the coldness of the jar --> causing condensation on the glass & causing gooification of the spice. I had ran into this, and now I avoid the problem by doing the following: as soon as I remove the glass from the freezer, I aim the exhaust of a dehumidifier directly at the inside wall of my jars; I also tilt the jars. I haven't used a blowdrier, but I suspect the dehumidified warm air method I described would work better if you have a dehumidifier.

Best of luck.

 

[primordium]

Read this thread.

and this: DMT crytals melting

That hits the nail on the head! That is exactly my problem. I also have most of my crystals floating, which makes the whole problem more complicated. I'll try to figure something out later; it's incredibly frustrating to see so much white in my jars and not be able to blast off!

P.S. I don't own a dehumidifier.

 

[primordium]

Earlier today, I decanted one beaker into a pan (like the one pictured in cyb's Hybrid ATB "Salt" tek). There was plenty of fluffy white that flowed out and into that pan. That's in the freezer now.

I placed the beaker (which had white crystals stuck to it, but little to no NPS left) upside down onto some paper towels and a paper plate, and everything was placed into the freezer. I did this for three hours; nothing seemed wet or noticeably moist on the paper towels. I pulled the beaker out about 25 minutes ago, and almost instantly, everything became clear and started running together. To be sure, there were large clumps of white stuck to the beaker at first (one was especially large, almost like a small ant hill).

I placed the beaker on a flat floor and held a blow dryer over it (on the "air" setting). After twenty minutes, there was still a small, thin, clear puddle in it. I have it currently placed on a table to just evaporate as it stands.

During the air-blowing process and now, I smell more of a pleasant, woodsy, simmered ACRB smell and no naphtha.

After 8 hours or so of evaporating at room temperature, I plan to check it to see if there is at least something to scrape and smoalk.

I still have two smaller beakers and now one pan of white fluff (predominantly floating).

 

[primordium]

Earlier today, I decanted one beaker into a pan (like the one pictured in cyb's Hybrid ATB "Salt" tek). There was plenty of fluffy white that flowed out and into that pan. That's in the freezer now.

I went ahead and took this pan out. The crystals swished about as I walked with it, with bigger ones being formed from their collisions.

I am just setting it out to naturally evaporate now. There's probably like 1/3 centimeter of NPS in there, so I expect this will take days, but I should still end up with goo or crystals, right?

 

[starway6]

Goo is just crystals dressed up in a tuxedo!!

 

[DreaMTripper]

You did have it well sealed in the freezer? A snap shut coffee jar is great for preventing moisture seeping in douwe egberts - Recherche Google

It should evap and dry... 1/3cm wont take take that long especially under a fan and spread out..do you live in a particularly humid country? Im a bit baffled as to whats going on..
What plant is the raw material from? MhRB will more than likely result in crystals but acrb is either or depending on a few factors as discussed in goo thread.

 

[primordium]

You did have it well sealed in the freezer?

No. One person in that thread you linked said to just turn it upside down in the freezer, so I went that route. It was just a beaker upside down on some paper towels. When I pulled it out of the freezer, there were still white clumps.

It should evap and dry... 1/3cm wont take take that long especially under a fan and spread out..do you live in a particularly humid country? Im a bit baffled as to whats going on..

I've had a particularly hectic week professionally and personally, so I forgot about the fan! I remembered after my earlier post, and the naphtha was evaporated after only a few hours. It's still going to sit out for the night.

What plant is the raw material from? MhRB will more than likely result in crystals but acrb is either or depending on a few factors as discussed in goo thread.

It is ACRB.

I'm just going to dump out my other two beakers and have them evaporate, too. It's just disappointing to see so much white in that glassware and then have it all dissolve. Thank you for your continued support!

 

[Entheogenerator]

It is ACRB.

I'm just going to dump out my other two beakers and have them evaporate, too. It's just disappointing to see so much white in that glassware and then have it all dissolve. Thank you for your continued support!

I would recommend that you post a few pictures of your dilemma. It will make it a lot easier for people to help you.

ACRB goo is every bit as valuable as crystals. Take a tiny little bit, burn it on the head of a pin or paper clip, and smell the smoke that comes off. It should smell like something along the lines of mothballs/ otherworldly plastic or something. The scent is hard to describe, but it is very pungent so you should be able to tell if DMT is present or not.

If you decide that you're more of a purist, ACRB goo can be turned into crystals with just a little bit more work. I have seen two methods that both seem effective and relatively simple. Read this thread and this thread for more details.

It can be frustrating to yield a strange-looking gel after seeing so many crystal-pr0n shots of gorgeous shards on the forum and putting in so much hard work. But I am a firm believer in the notion that the more work you have to put into something, the more satisfying it will be when you get to enjoy the fruits of your labor. :thumb_up:

 

[primordium]

It is ACRB.

I'm just going to dump out my other two beakers and have them evaporate, too. It's just disappointing to see so much white in that glassware and then have it all dissolve. Thank you for your continued support!

I would recommend that you post a few pictures of your dilemma. It will make it a lot easier for people to help you.

I had been hesitant because of EXIF data; I finally looked up how to remove such metadata, and it is trivial, so I'll be more ready to post pictures from now on. For now, I would say my beakers/pan look just like this.

ACRB goo is every bit as valuable as crystals. Take a tiny little bit, burn it on the head of a pin or paper clip, and smell the smoke that comes off. It should smell like something along the lines of mothballs/ otherworldly plastic or something. The scent is hard to describe, but it is very pungent so you should be able to tell if DMT is present or not.

If you decide that you're more of a purist, ACRB goo can be turned into crystals with just a little bit more work. I have seen two methods that both seem effective and relatively simple. Read this thread and this thread for more details.

Thanks for the great advice! Before my next extraction, I plan to spend a much longer time reading the fora (I read much more this time around since my last attempt, but now I see so much that I have missed).

It can be frustrating to yield a strange-looking gel after seeing so many crystal-pr0n shots of gorgeous shards on the forum and putting in so much hard work. But I am a firm believer in the notion that the more work you have to put into something, the more satisfying it will be when you get to enjoy the fruits of your labor. :thumb_up:

Good philosophy. :thumb_up: I'm with ya. I'll be more ready for contingencies like this next time.

I did scrape from my original beaker last night (that was decanted and set out to dry for 12 hours), and white goo was stuck to my razor. I then scraped a bit from the pan and it was thick orange goo (as pictures from others suggested it would be). Last night, I decanted my remaining two beakers into that pan and set the beakers out to dry. I plan on scraping everything tonight for goo.

Let's hope hyperspace greets a new tourist tonight!

 

[cyb]

Don't worry primordium...All exif data is stripped from the Nexus System by default when you attach a pic...only the pic and the title is available to view.

You may have to be prepared for the fact that the bark you have is not ACRB...it may be ACTrB (trunk bark) or another type of acacia being passed off as Confusia Root Bark. (It happens unfortunately)
If all your floaters are turning to oils as soon as they are free of the cold temps, this maybe a possibility.

Clear Goo from MHRB extractions is definitely active, and is entirely spice...just not formed into a crystal matrix.

A pic of the bark or powder or floaters may provide some help. (although please don't mention suppliers) :thumb_up:

 

[Entheogenerator]

Don't worry primordium...All exif data is stripped from the Nexus System by default when you attach a pic...only the pic and the title is available to view.

You may have to be prepared for the fact that the bark you have is not ACRB...it may be ACTrB (trunk bark) or another type of acacia being passed off as Confusia Root Bark. (It happens unfortunately)
If all your floaters are turning to oils as soon as they are free of the cold temps, this maybe a possibility.

Clear Goo from MHRB extractions is definitely active, and is entirely spice...just not formed into a crystal matrix.

A pic of the bark or powder or floaters may provide some help. (although please don't mention suppliers) :thumb_up:

I was going to mention this possibility too. I haven't personally encountered "rootbark" that turned out to actually be something other than ACRB, but it certainly does happen.

 

[primordium]

Here's what I had in the pan (before). Here's what I scraped out (after).

Do I wait for this to dry? Any easier way to measure? I can still use choreboy and a GVG, right?

Thanks for all the input!

 

[primordium]

I put 0.06g of goo onto some choreboy, and heated it to melt it in the choreboy. I threw that in a GVG.

Nothing cloudy whatsoever. I feel warm but have no deeper/psychedelic thinking, just a fuzzy coordination with the world. No visual distortions, either. I feel about what I would expect from sucking down the end of a powerful lighter. There are some oils in the GVG now.

 

[primordium]

I put about 0.06g in another batch. This time I stuffed more choreboy in, so the goo was sandwiched in between. I felt heady and looking at the GVG itself was fascinating for a minute or so, with ever-so-slight distortions in the room (swelling of certain fabrics), but not much after that. I was noticeably euphoric for a bit, as well.

I definitely had clouds come out upon exhaling my hits, too.

My wife tried again with the remaining goo (approximately 0.03g), and she had little luck.

So, the goo is gone, and I had barely a psychedelic effect.