Cloudy naptha in the freezer.

[Biskotso]

What could cause this?
Doing an STB the naptha was clear when I put it in the freezer but now it's cloudy. Previously I have not had this problem, if it's even a problem.
Any ideas people?
Many thanks.
X

(This is the second extraction from the same bark/ lye mixture, the mixture has been sitting for a couple of weeks before this extraction.)

 

[۩]

It's precipitating. All you have to do is let it sit there, undisturbed, for 24 hours.

 

[gibran2]

What could cause this?
Doing an STB the naptha was clear when I put it in the freezer but now it's cloudy. Previously I have not had this problem, if it's even a problem.
Any ideas people?
Many thanks.
X

(This is the second extraction from the same bark/ lye mixture, the mixture has been sitting for a couple of weeks before this extraction.)

Cloudiness is good. It means you have DMT in there, and it's just starting to precipitate. Yay!

 

[Biskotso]

Wow, that's great news!
The first time round I didn't see it cloudy and I got low yields, it was my first attempt ever, (I was excited so I rushed it all to be honest.)
Yesterday I took my time and am pleased to hear that I might get more Divine Moments of Truth. Yummy.

You guys are fantastic X

 

[Biskotso]

Hello people.
The sample is still cloudy with minimal precipitation.
The freezer is cold enough. (At least it's on full and worked well last time.)
Do I just need to hang on and be more patient?
I've transferred the cloudy naphtha to a new jar and put it back in the freezer. Here's a picture of what was in the bottom of the original jar.

Thanks again.
X

 

[gibran2]

It’s hard to tell from your photo, but that may very well be DMT - it doesn’t always form crystals during freeze precipitation. I’d allow that residue to dry and then scrape it up. My guess is that it’s what you want.

I’ve had this happen when the naphtha is very saturated with spice – so you might be surprised by how much is there.

 

[Biskotso]

Thanks Gibran2
Here's some more photo's:

This is having wiped it out a bit: (I'll try again once it's dry and doesn't smear everywhere.)

This is the residue scraped onto the edge of a plate to dry:

This is the cloudyness of the naptha in a new jar that has now gone back in the freezer: (When I did this the first time the naptha was as clear as water (with a yellow tint.)

 

[gibran2]

Looking at your latest photos, I'd say something is wrong.

I can't say exactly what is wrong, but if there's any spice at all in that goo, it's very impure. I've had some strange extraction results, but never anything quite like yours. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

 

[Biskotso]

Weird, this is the second time that I've had this goo.
The first extraction I did was great, but low yields.
Since then I've been trying to pull more from the same bark/ lye mixture. Maybe I should stop doing that... haha
Anyone else out there know what's going on?
X

 

[tele]

If you won't success with that STB tek, I can recommend q21q21's tek, it's very easy and efficient(well it can absorb 1/5-1/3 of your naphtha, but it's worth it), personally it's the only way because it's never failed and the product is very very good.

 

[Biskotso]

Thanks Tele.
I've just looked in the Wiki is q21q21's tek the A/B tek?

Also, out of curiosity I read Nomans and Lazy Boy's STB teks and they don't mention cleaning the naptha, which I do with water and then epsom salts before freezing... Is this my problem, anyone?

X

 

[maniamgood0]

I've had the same results as you, biskotso, including the results in your pictures. I smoked the same gunk that you have, and while it is a bit nasty, it does give a light high (light in relative terms, of course). What I would suggest, as it worked for me, would be to place the naptha under a fan for a few hours until about half of it has evaporated. At this point, it should be saturated enough that a freeze-precipitation will give you crystals instead of gunk.
Best wishes
-maniamgood0

 

[Simon Jester]

If you won't success with that STB tek, I can recommend q21q21's tek, it's very easy and efficient(well it can absorb 1/5-1/3 of your naphtha, but it's worth it), personally it's the only way because it's never failed and the product is very very good.

All that naptha is recoverable... the mixture doesn't absorb the naptha (it's aqueous, after all), it just holds it in bubbles. Once you're done with all your pulls, add more lime until it makes a loose dough-blob, then slap it on a cookie sheet and knead the naptha bubbles out. Pour off the naptha through a filter, and repeat until all of the naptha is out.

Rather than do it after every extraction, I save up a few batches each time. I just toss the naptha-laden mixture into a sealed bucket, and deal with it when it's full. roll it around every week and you'll be able to recover quite a bit of yellow naptha that will freeze out freebase crystals, and give you some incredible jungle spice when you evaporate it. Plus, it's always nice to have the means when you're short on cash and fancy a trip into hyperspace... or 30.

 

[Biskotso]

I've had the same results as you, biskotso, including the results in your pictures. I smoked the same gunk that you have, and while it is a bit nasty, it does give a light high (light in relative terms, of course). What I would suggest, as it worked for me, would be to place the naptha under a fan for a few hours until about half of it has evaporated. At this point, it should be saturated enough that a freeze-precipitation will give you crystals instead of gunk.
Best wishes
-maniamgood0

I evaporated half the naptha off and have now achieved crystals so thank you.
My question is, all the gunk and impure sediments, can/ shall I go through a recrystallization with them do you think?
X

 

[SpiritualAwakening]

i combine everything i get from precipitating. this includes the varying colored dmt crystals. (white/offwhite/yellow) and the yellow/orange goop. (dmt oxide)

i then recrystallize everything, collect my pretty white/translucent dmt crystals and put away for use.

i then collect the orange goop that is the remains of your re-x, that is dmt oxide and with a simple conversion can be turned back into n,n dmt. its also worth noting that dmt oxide is also active, just not nearly as psychedelic as n,n dmt.

glad everything worked out nicely for you. clean those crystals up, sample, and let us know how your product is. :lol:

 

[epicseeds]

Thanks Tele.
I've just looked in the Wiki is q21q21's tek the A/B tek?

Also, out of curiosity I read Nomans and Lazy Boy's STB teks and they don't mention cleaning the naptha, which I do with water and then epsom salts before freezing... Is this my problem, anyone?

X

Cleaning naptha??? what are you talking about. This sounds very wrong. Also, it looks like you have WAY too much naptha in there. All you do is wait for the naptha to float to the top siphon it, then freeze it. only use about 30ml of naptha per 50grams of mhrb - and 1gram of lye per gram of mhrb

DO NOT smoke that gook, that guys advice is horrible as it may have some nasty lye in it.

 

[Biskotso]

Cleaning naptha??? what are you talking about. This sounds very wrong.

I was following an STB tek I found on the shroomery written by user "Watcha" it's all over the net as a .pdf
(This was before I found DMT Nexus! HaHa.)
To "clean" lye and other containments from the naptha after pulls he instructed to "wash" it with a less basic water made from PHplus swimming pool product (which you shake up and then let settle in a matter of a few seconds before pouring off the naptha - the water ends up orange and the naptha clearer.) Then he said to do the same with normal water and then finally, epsom salt crystals which "absorb" the last micro drops of water. The salt crystals are coffee filtered out within seconds of being added.

It's a big fuss and freezing directly after pulling sounds a lot easier.
Perhaps it's all these silly steps that have created low yields for me?

Is "Watcha" trying to create an STB tek that doesn't require recrystallization maybe?
Has anyone done an STB freezing directly after pulling without a recrystallization, just using the original product?
If it's that simple why does anyone do A/B extractions?
Many thanks guys.
X

 

[SpiritualAwakening]

Thanks Tele.
I've just looked in the Wiki is q21q21's tek the A/B tek?

Also, out of curiosity I read Nomans and Lazy Boy's STB teks and they don't mention cleaning the naptha, which I do with water and then epsom salts before freezing... Is this my problem, anyone?

X

Cleaning naptha??? what are you talking about. This sounds very wrong. Also, it looks like you have WAY too much naptha in there. All you do is wait for the naptha to float to the top siphon it, then freeze it. only use about 30ml of naptha per 50grams of mhrb - and 1gram of lye per gram of mhrb

DO NOT smoke that gook, that guys advice is horrible as it may have some nasty lye in it.

there is nothing wrong with the "gook" thats left over after recrystallization. its mostly plant fats and dmt oxide. some people dont even recrystallize their product, and they smoke this gook all the time.

if youre careful durring your extraction and use the proper ratios you won't have any lye solution in your dmt, simple as that. if your dmt is burning you while you vaporize it you do have lye in it, however ive never had this issue.

 

[Egokiller]

What could cause this?
Doing an STB the naptha was clear when I put it in the freezer but now it's cloudy. Previously I have not had this problem, if it's even a problem.
Any ideas people?
Many thanks.
X

(This is the second extraction from the same bark/ lye mixture, the mixture has been sitting for a couple of weeks before this extraction.)

where did you get your mhrb?

 

[Biskotso]

A UK ebay supplier.
It was much cheaper than anywhere else.