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One of those things is completely horrible and morally wrong. The other is enlightening and very positive and please do not refer to entheogenic experiences as getting "loaded", perhaps YOU don't look at entheogens the proper way. I have never gotten "loaded" or "fucked up" off DMT or any other entheogen. Entheogens are NOT drugs, period.

Come on now, Coatl... you know he's not talking about the spice there... This man obviously knows and agrees with these things, as we have already gone over...

But when it comes down to it, mimosa hostilis is the entheogen [commonly used], not DMT. DMT is technically a drug. Same way THC is a drug... but cannabis is an entheogen... a plant. Drug has way too many negative connotations with it in our society today, yes, but at the end of the day, it is still technically a drug. Does that word affect the experiences SWIM has with it? The respect he has? The amount of knowledge, wisdom, and beauty to be gained from it? Not at all! It's just a term to define a substance. Nothing more.

Do I consider DMT usage drug usage? No... that's not what it means to me. But if you were to look at the situation at hand non-biasly... it is...

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