Confusa Powder Straight

[DisEmboDied]

Don't want to use a whole new post on this, maybe this should be somewhere else,

But has anyone eaten confusa powder straight and 'went anywhere'?

It would be cool if one could just put a spoonful in some chocolate milk or the like and it work as usual, without having to be boiled in a pot.

 

[pinkoyd]

I don't know about confusa, but 'back in the day' some intrepid (or maybe just foolish) psychonauts tested out MHRB that way and found that whole plant material contained some toxic and very unpleasant elements.

 

[The Unknowing]

I drank confusa powder with orange juice and it worked just fine. But I had taken syrian rue 30 minutes beforehand... there are a few reports of confusa working on its own but you'll have to use significantly more powder and it may be a little overwhelming.

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

no but i sprinkled some dmt on sawdust and ate that.

worked great :lol:

 

[DoingKermit]

Here is someone who has tested Acacia Confusa on it's own (without MAOI) with good results.

 

[cubeananda]

Swim has had good results with very small amounts of acacia confusa powdered and put in a conduction style glass pipe. (+ on the Sasha scale)

Also has eaten it raw in tiny amounts (got on his finger during an extract) and noticed a very slight shift after about 45 minutes.

But In swims experience, the bark itself and the psychoactive properties seem to be asking for extraction.

 

[Nathanial.Dread]

I was part of a group of four people, all of us ate 3 tblspns of ACRB and no one felt anything except headache-y.

 

[starway6]

I was part of a group of four people, all of us ate 3 tblspns of ACRB and no one felt anything except headache-y.

maybe just eating acrb powder in that way wont work as well as brewing it into a tea?
Maybe the heated brewing method will release more of its alcoloids making it easier to absorb??

 

[DisEmboDied]

Well, here is my experimental self-report, which just ended about 5 minutes ago, so I better hurry up and type...

I took a finger full of confusa and ate it straight, no brewing or anything, washed it down with water.

I continued my work, not expecting anything to happen, I started small. But I listen to my mind and body well, so I can detect shifts easily.

After about 20 minuted it seemed, I started to feel really strange. My heartbeat increased, and I was starting to not recognize the room I had been in all day. The sunlight coming through the windows increased 10 fold, and the walls looked bent and warped, sort of like I was in a Picasso or for sure Van Gogh painting. I went outside and the clouds looked as they do on about 10-15 mils of mimosa crystals. Everything was brighter and more beautiful. I felt as though I was at some sort of vacation spot, away from where I actually was as if I was somewhere on an island that I had never been before.

At moments like these I critically evaluate and monitor whether or not I am inducing a placebo effect on myself. For the first 5 minutes I was convincing myself that that had to be the case since a fingerfull is such a small amount, but once it reached some point, I was like “Nope. This is really happening.”
I didn’t watch the clock, but the whole experience seemed to last about 20, maybe 30 minutes.

I’m sure that brewing must have more of an effect, but eating it straight definitely does work as well. Also, since I ate such a small amount, I don’t know if brewing would have been able to do much better.

Wow, what a nice option to have!

 

[Bancopuma]

This is really interesting to hear, thank you for sharing! Will definitely try consuming some, am intrigued about washing some down having eaten some rue to see what happens.

 

[starway6]

DisEmboDied ...
When you said a fingerfull does this mean dry acacia bark powder?
I asume it powdered [very fine] because coarser particles wouldent work as well..
You may just have some very potent acacia..
Be carefull with doses!

 

[DisEmboDied]

Yep, powdered, dry, and, I think this stuff is super potent, plus, I had no food in my stomach.....but, it worked at least like a low dose...........

 

[The Neural]

I took a finger full of confusa and ate it straight, no brewing or anything, washed it down with water.

how does a fingerful compare to a spoon measurement? I guess weight units are out of the question, but would you say that was a heaped teaspoon's worth?

 

[DisEmboDied]

Nope, not even close to a spoonful, just a small mound on a fingertip. I listen to subtle changes in my consciousness well though. I'm sure that if I had done a whole spoonful I would have been in for a wild ride....

 

[cubeananda]

Swims experiments with a conduction pipe were very very small amounts of bark, swim will weigh a similar amount used before and get back to you.

This is a great thread btw dimebodied.

Heating ground tree bark in a conduction pipe carefully is a very very different experience than full-spectrum extract of the same bark.

However, the space is very conducive to meditation and healing. It may even be wise to ingest a small amount of bark awhile before smoalking.

 

[Sabnock]

I've come to find that 4 capsules, i think they are size 00, can hold 3 grams of powdered Acacia Confusa root bark. And i've taken these capsules 30 minutes after taking Syrian Rue seed, and it does indeed work that way and was quite powerful imo. I've done the same with Mimosa Hostilis powder in capsules(which i did many, many, many times) and must say it's really been the only way to experience it, as i could not drink the Mimosa or Acacia brews. Now though, i'm experimenting with the egg white tannin removal in the hopes of being able to achieve a drinkable Mimosa or Acacia tea.

 

[starway6]

I've come to find that 4 capsules, i think they are size 00, can hold 3 grams of powdered Acacia Confusa root bark. And i've taken these capsules 30 minutes after taking Syrian Rue seed, and it does indeed work that way and was quite powerful imo. I've done the same with Mimosa Hostilis powder in capsules(which i did many, many, many times) and must say it's really been the only way to experience it, as i could not drink the Mimosa or Acacia brews. Now though, i'm experimenting with the egg white tannin removal in the hopes of being able to achieve a drinkable Mimosa or Acacia tea.

Three grams sounds about right..

How long was your trip?

I think three grams of acacia confusa powdered bark is suposed to work.. even without an maoi!..have you tryed it that way yet?

Also how was the AC spice trip compaired to mimosa spice?

We need more reports on acacia confusa thanks much...

 

[DisEmboDied]

It always seems that the AC trips orally are about 30 minutes from the different reports I have read. And no MAOIs are necessary, helpful, but not necessary for sure.

I didn't know one could do the same with mimosa bark?!

The AC experience is different experientially, IDK, seems more Earthly versus Outer-Space-ly, hmmmm...I once directly communicated with plants, trees, and ROCKS with AC, but not with mimosa....but, I suppose it all depends where one's mind is at at the time....

 

[Sabnock]

Starway6, my experience lasted generally as long as the Syrian Rue dose lasted, so about 3 to 4 hours from come up till come down. Though i did have something weird happen when i mixed Lemon Balm tea with the Acacia-Rue, it seemed to lengthen the duration of the experience 2 hours longer than usual.

And naw, i've never tried taking just the Acacia, as i like to get the most out of my supplies and to me DMT without an MAOI is a complete waste, it's so short lasting and while indeed powerful, there's much more to DMT than a full on holy shit dose, which is why i myself tend to stick with only oral DMT from now on and i keep the dosages within the low to moderate range, as most people usually only need a full on high dose rarely.

As for Acacia spice vs. Mimosa spice, IME the several times i've made Changa, with both Acacia and Mimosa, the Mimosa was def. more heavy in feeling and usually had a rapid come up, while the Acacia Confusa seemed more gentle and slower coming up. Plus the headspace does seem different between the two, can't really describe the feeling though, just different.

 

[DreaMTripper]

It always seems that the AC trips orally are about 30 minutes from the different reports I have read. And no MAOIs are necessary, helpful, but not necessary for sure.

I didn't know one could do the same with mimosa bark?!

The AC experience is different experientially, IDK, seems more Earthly versus Outer-Space-ly, hmmmm...I once directly communicated with plants, trees, and ROCKS with AC, but not with mimosa....but, I suppose it all depends where one's mind is at at the time....

The same is said about the differences between freebase and changa, its the betacarbolines changing the character and chemical message, NMT will have an effect too. Nailing the dose would be very beneficial although I imagine the alkaloid profile varies. Does it taste as dry as cacti powder?