Conversation with God?

[Whatis]

Hello fellow Nexiuns,

I have just had an experience that has blown my world apart. I don't usually post, but this experience was so beyond anything I have ever experienced that I would love your ideas/ guidance.

As the title suggests I have just had a conversation with god, or the god head, or a very powerful spirit, at any rate it felt male and female at the same time, and incredibly important, almost like the source of everything.

First a quick background to me and this particular trip. I have smoked DMT perhaps 50 times. Never taken DMT orally, but that is the next step I feel. This particular session happened at bed time. I had just vaped 30mg and had a lot of entities saying 'LOOK CLOSELY', but the trip felt unsatisfactory, so I loaded up 35mg and blasted off again.

What I saw was absolutely astonishing. I saw what felt like god. I was lead into a fully rendered space that I have never ever been to before. It felt very special, and he seemed to say 'enjoy this moment, it is very rare.' I was taken into what felt like the source of everything. He literally opened everything up to me and showed me inside, splitting things apart and showing me how things can be everywhere at the same time, and how fun and beautiful and full of joy everything is. I can't even begin to describe the visuals, they are beyond words, and my memory is completely unable to hold them, as if what I experienced exists beyond memory. (Which has always been puzzling to me - when we are there it seems hyper real and definitely something which we can see, yet memory fails retain it for very long)

If I had to try to describe what I saw : I was lead towards a blue flower/clitoris and it opened up to me and then became apparent that it was god. Things were split across my screen, and he said 'see it all makes sense doesn't it?' I became aware of my arm bending at an angle like a kids Egyptian dance in sympathy to what I was seeing. Layer upon layer was revealed. I briefly lifted above this layer to see lots of spirits that I am used to seeing in a place that felt familiar, all saying 'YES, its fun isn't it?' before dipping back down to god for some more lessons.

I remember the impression that this has changed everything. That was I think of as me and my life has now been permanently changed, that I have been shown things so profound, yet completely unexpected, that I can never be the limited self I have always assumed I was. I guess only time will tell if this is true.

I am sure there is a ton of stuff that has already faded, but I came out of this experience gob smacked to put it mildly. I had to go and speak to my friend and house mate, thankfully he was still awake, and then I wanted to speak to you all.

Much love,

 

[TheGreenArrow]

Thanks for posting this. I've been having trouble with 'blasting off' again with freebase DMT lately. I just can't seem to make that leap without getting really anxious. I've even considered the idea that DMT may not be my cup of tea. I just wanted to say that your trip held water with me sir (or lady). That same sexless presence was all around me as soon as I was past this plane. Good on you for grabbing the God Head and running with it!

 

[Whatis]

Thanks 'TheGreenArrow' I know exactly what you mean. Anxiety has always been present for me. Even though I know everything will be ok, dmt is kinda a death like experience and I guess is profoundly shocking to the ego. I even sometimes get anxious just being around spice, holding it in my hand, for example, even though I have no intention to smoke it.

I find a lightish dose first, followed by some increasingly stronger ones helps to ease me in as it were. I also like to vape so I can take the whole dose in one inhale .

Another thing I am struggling with - to what extent do people try and interact with their experiences? I started off with simply observing, but my experience yesterday tells me that a degree of participation / interaction with the experiences is possible and desirable. Does anyone have anyone have any thoughts on this?

Much love,

 

[○]

It's something isn't it?

Not everyone experiences that.

Hold it with you forever and don't forget it.

 

[ShamanicYogi]

Hello fellow Nexiuns,

I have just had an experience that has blown my world apart. I don't usually post, but this experience was so beyond anything I have ever experienced that I would love your ideas/ guidance.

As the title suggests I have just had a conversation with god, or the god head, or a very powerful spirit, at any rate it felt male and female at the same time, and incredibly important, almost like the source of everything.
What I saw was absolutely astonishing. I saw what felt like god.
If I had to try to describe what I saw : I was lead towards a blue flower/clitoris and it opened up to me and then became apparent that it was god.
Much love,

McKenna calls dimethyltryptamine and DMT contains plants a form of deification. I have no doubt that is what you experienced. I love to read it. In the past, we may have boxed in The Divine to a version that is portrayed by popular forms of whatever religion; yet with an ayahuasca or DMT experience, one can transcend that way of experiencing life and open a person to the infinite possibilities that is offered to a person through the Most High or whatever name you give to the original source of energy and life.

Even though I know everything will be ok, dmt is kinda a death like experience and I guess is profoundly shocking to the ego. I even sometimes get anxious just being around spice, holding it in my hand, for example, even though I have no intention to smoke it.
Another thing I am struggling with - to what extent do people try and interact with their experiences? I started off with simply observing, but my experience yesterday tells me that a degree of participation / interaction with the experiences is possible and desirable. Does anyone have anyone have any thoughts on this?
Much love,

The indigenous cultures call the ayahuasca Vine of the Soul or Vine of the Death. The people of the indigenous cultures know that a practitioner of ayahuasca (and here now DMT) has the ability to gain knowledge from our ancestors about how to best proceed right now.

If a person is interested in navigating the experience, consider working with oral DMT. If interested, consider pursuing an ayahuasca or an analogue ayahuasca experience. From one's experience navigating the oral DMT experience, a seeker will be better prepared to navigate the experience produced by the vaporized/combusted form.

Much as well.

 

[dropthemillstone]

Thanks for posting. Seems like a humbling, beautiful experience.

 

[Parabola89]

That sounds like exactly the same place I went to on my final trip, I say my final trip as I decided to move on with my life after the experience and give up the experimentation, although there is a possibility that I will one day try it again.

It's amazing, isn't it? And the most wondrous thing about it is that you are in fact just an extension of what you experienced. That which you saw as God is just a reflection of you at a different stage in your existence
The boredom of eternity is what lead you here to your human life, and not just yours but everyones.

 

[Swinjin]

It's something isn't it?

Not everyone experiences that.

Hold it with you forever and don't forget it.

He said it.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Hello fellow Nexiuns,

I have just had an experience that has blown my world apart. I don't usually post, but this experience was so beyond anything I have ever experienced that I would love your ideas/ guidance.

As the title suggests I have just had a conversation with god, or the god head, or a very powerful spirit, at any rate it felt male and female at the same time, and incredibly important, almost like the source of everything.

First a quick background to me and this particular trip. I have smoked DMT perhaps 50 times. Never taken DMT orally, but that is the next step I feel. This particular session happened at bed time. I had just vaped 30mg and had a lot of entities saying 'LOOK CLOSELY', but the trip felt unsatisfactory, so I loaded up 35mg and blasted off again.

What I saw was absolutely astonishing. I saw what felt like god. I was lead into a fully rendered space that I have never ever been to before. It felt very special, and he seemed to say 'enjoy this moment, it is very rare.' I was taken into what felt like the source of everything. He literally opened everything up to me and showed me inside, splitting things apart and showing me how things can be everywhere at the same time, and how fun and beautiful and full of joy everything is. I can't even begin to describe the visuals, they are beyond words, and my memory is completely unable to hold them, as if what I experienced exists beyond memory. (Which has always been puzzling to me - when we are there it seems hyper real and definitely something which we can see, yet memory fails retain it for very long)

If I had to try to describe what I saw : I was lead towards a blue flower/clitoris and it opened up to me and then became apparent that it was god. Things were split across my screen, and he said 'see it all makes sense doesn't it?' I became aware of my arm bending at an angle like a kids Egyptian dance in sympathy to what I was seeing. Layer upon layer was revealed. I briefly lifted above this layer to see lots of spirits that I am used to seeing in a place that felt familiar, all saying 'YES, its fun isn't it?' before dipping back down to god for some more lessons.

I remember the impression that this has changed everything. That was I think of as me and my life has now been permanently changed, that I have been shown things so profound, yet completely unexpected, that I can never be the limited self I have always assumed I was. I guess only time will tell if this is true.

I am sure there is a ton of stuff that has already faded, but I came out of this experience gob smacked to put it mildly. I had to go and speak to my friend and house mate, thankfully he was still awake, and then I wanted to speak to you all.

Much love,

This is my opinion and please take it as that.

I think that you were blessed with wonderful experience and this should be your last time inhaling DMT. From here on, your journey with Ayahuasca begins.

If you do not start the journey with Ayahausca and continue to inhale DMT, your experiences may begin to get dark. You should seek the deeper relationship in Ayahuasca. If you are ready for it.

 

[Whatis]

Thanks guys/gals,

Grizzly - perhaps you are right. I want to begin my oral journey. Does anyone have any advice on this? I know there is a ton of information on here - and I have already started to look - but if you have anything to add / point me to I would be very grateful. I don't think I could ever be so absolute as to say I will never vap DMT again, but it feels like my honeymoon period is definitely over...

Parabola89 - I agree. It definitely felt that way, although I have come across that idea in spiritual circles before, and wasn't too sure how much of my own spiritual journey, - that was started before DMT found me (ridiculous phrase, but it kinda seems true) - I have carried over and might be influencing my experiences. But everything seems to be pointing in the same direction at the moment. Absolutely everything. Which is weird and beautiful at the same time. Like DMT I suppose :thumb_up:

Much love, x

 

[fungalfanatic]

Beautiful experience, thank you

I want to begin my oral journey. Does anyone have any advice on this? I know there is a ton of information on here - and I have already started to look - but if you have anything to add / point me to I would be very grateful.

Start low is my advice. The plants vary in strength so it is easy to overdo it especially if you are using bark in your brew (I unfortunately learned this the hard way). Also consider starting off with a brew made only from the vine or rue to get a feel for the harmala alkaloids on their own.

Another great source for aya info other than the Nexus is the ayahuasca.com forums. Their Basic Guide provides an excellent overview with plenty of links to more in-depth discussions.

 

[Parabola89]

Parabola89 - I agree. It definitely felt that way, although I have come across that idea in spiritual circles before, and wasn't too sure how much of my own spiritual journey, - that was started before DMT found me (ridiculous phrase, but it kinda seems true) - I have carried over and might be influencing my experiences. But everything seems to be pointing in the same direction at the moment. Absolutely everything. Which is weird and beautiful at the same time. Like DMT I suppose :thumb_up:

Much love, x

I came to this idea before I knew anything about the meaning of enlightenment, it was only later on that I realised that this revelation is one that many others have come to through the years, spiritual masters and gurus, Buddha, Yeshua (Jesus) etc. Some choose to keep it to themselves and others choose to spread the idea and end up nailed to a cross for blasphemy. I feel as though I cheated to get to the answer but never the less I got there and once you have the information that's all that counts, sometimes it feels like i've been let in on the plot twist at the end of the movie then I have to go back to the cinema and pick up where I left off half way through. I find it hard to get as emotionally invested in this game now knowing that it is just a game of my own design but I guess eating from the tree of knowledge has both it's positive and negative sides.
I had a conversation with a christian the other day and I told them I don't feel that there's any real disconnection between us and God and they said that it may be true but most people certainly don't act like it, I just laughed.. Of course they don't, what would be the point? You don't go on holiday and act like you're still at work. Enjoy this opportunity that you have given yourself to have no real responsibility on a rock out in the middle of nowhere, a place where all your actions are ultimately insignificant Some would call that freedom
Much love to you too x

 

[FiniteFox]

Just wanted to chime in here that this experience sounded a lot like people's reports of Out Of Body Experiences (OOBEs). The disconnection, seeing your body, reuniting with it, the pulsing sound as one's spirit leaves the body ... just an interesting corollary.

Thanks for posting, I hope you take the love, knowledge and respect learned from hyperspace and spread it around to the others who badly need it. You've already done us a favor by posting and I wanted to say thanks.

- FF

 

[hardboiled]

Isn't ˝IT˝ something strange...funny...childlike mystery loving. Nothing, giving life to everything.

Life is a gift and a miracle genius IDEA. There is eternity to kill and what a better way to spend it than to pretend your not the source of everything and all alone...



Love & Peace

 

[Whatis]

sometimes it feels like i've been let in on the plot twist at the end of the movie then I have to go back to the cinema and pick up where I left off half way through. I find it hard to get as emotionally invested in this game now knowing that it is just a game of my own design but I guess eating from the tree of knowledge has both it's positive and negative sides.

I'm not sure I agree parabola and hardboiled. The idea of being all alone and unable to invest emotionally because of what has been revealed to us feels, to me, like an egoic position on the realisation that we are IT, and IT is us.

I often feel the same, like somehow nothing really matters, like the colour has been drained because the source is us. This feeling of almost disillusionment with everything seems to come because I feel myself as a separate entity within a universe, when everything points to separation being an illusion. But I don't think that the separate self can ever comprehend it. And the sadness, for me anyway, seems to come from a gradual realisation that what I always thought I was, in fact I am not, and the fact 'I' am going to die.

Then I remember that the infinity which IT provides is truly astonishing. Art, history, the first breath of a new born baby, stars, the universe and death - everything and nothing. Creation and destruction.

Perhaps the emotional disattachment to everything is, at first a bit daunting, but will ultimately reveal a more beautiful way of interacting with the world and beyond. This is what I try to trust.

There is nothing mundane or ordinary about anything.

 

[sageofair]

thank you for your insight

 

[locojuiceman]

Fantastic Experience Report, thank you for sharing. It is those types of reports that keep Me going.
I myself have had a few times where I was 'taken somewhere' and shown 'indecipherable' things and many times I think Our Minds cannot contain it all simply because it's bigger than Us or Our Minds. We are just a 'Piece of it all'. Like The Blood Cell to The Body, all working together. All the Cells need one another yet are independent.
I too have not yet gone the Oral route but I plan on it soon. I've read many accounts where the Oral may be even more intense or just as intense as smoking so I have to find a whole Day I can dedicate to the Journey before I take the leap.
I think Terrence McKenna was correct that the Plants are Deifications ...I think that without these Plants we wouldn't be where we are today as a Human Species.
I've read many accounts of Computer Scientists/Rocket Scientists, Artists, Musicians...all attributing these substances to their 'Findings' and 'Creations'.
Speaking of Musicians, one time I have seen, but, not 'straight on', what can only be described as 'God' and around His/Her 'Being' was the most Beautiful Golden Light. I felt as if I'd 'Come Home after a long Journey' and tears streamed down my face. The thing I remembered most besides the Light was the Music. I even hummed the little tune for many days after. It was a simple, yet catchy little number.
I've heard this same 'Tune' a few times after in other 'Sessions' as well.
Thank you again for sharing that beautiful report...a Flower shaped like a Clitoris huh? Wow ...isn't that somethin BEAUTIFUL

 

[SalviaDroid]

Thanks for sharing this, I loved reading it. You said that you consumed 35 mg to achieve the god head. What is the normal dosage you consume of DMT? Did dosage play a role in this particular experience or do you think it was something else?

 

[Whatis]

Hi SalviaDroid,

Thank you for your kind words.

I usually vapourize between 25-35mg, taking everything in one slow hit through a vapour genie, and holding it as long as possible. But I don't think that dosage really played a part, as in I'm not sure there is a perfect 'god head' dose that guarantees it

For what ever reason it felt like it just happened. It was beautiful and profound.

Something that does seem to be a rule, for me at least, is that the second or third trip in a vaping session is more profound or rewarding. The fear first time is so crippling that sometimes I have a hard time letting go, which seems to block a lot of the deeper lessons.