Could this be Naphtha ?

[omega-scar]

Okay, SWIM is preparing materials for a second DMT extraction attempt and went to a supermarket today looking for some other type of naphtha, after people here advised him not to use Zippo lighter fluid. The problem is that here, where SWIM lives, nobody knows what Nafta means, and the word itself is almost never used on the products.

SWIM would like to learn more about what naphta is, so he can choose a product that will work.

He read the Wikipedia 'naphtha' page many times and knows that:
"Naphtha normally refers to a number of different flammable liquid mixtures of hydrocarbons, i.e. a distillation product from petroleum or coal tar boiling in a certain range and containing certain hydrocarbons, a broad term encompassing any volatile, flammable liquid hydrocarbon mixture. " - wikipedia,
but still, he is having problems matching these english descriptions with the products he found on the shelves of the stores.

Are both easy (or soft) and hard naphta good for extractions? SWIM found a product today that listed about three ingredients , 2 of which actually contained the word "nafta" (which is the way in our language is spelled). It translated something like "INGREDIENTS: Hard naphta fraction .. , low boiling-point soft (or easy) naphta and Stoddard Solvent"

What is Stoddard Solvent ? This is what is listed as ingredient in MANY products SWIM found here in the paints and thinners section of the store. The Wiki page redirects Stoddard Solvent to whitespirit, but as SWIM understood from this forum, depending on geographic location whitespirit could mean different things.

Another product , called SUPRALUX H-100 (one that SWIM buyed today), says on the label (my translation) that it contains: "Easy benzine 50-100%" and that's about it. The same label describes the product like this: "SUPRALUX H-100 thinner based on aliphatic hidrocarbons ". It also says it is intended "first and foremost for adjusting the application consistency of lacquers and paintings..."

Any kind of feedback that helps SWIM understand what should he should look for , is more than welcome. Thanks.

 

[Spiced]

Naptha is simply washing Benzine, you can find that in the grocery store, or stores where you can buy cleaning products, it's nothing more then Hectane, or Heptane or both.

It's regularly used to remove paint from clothes.

 

[ghostman]

Where in Europe are you? Look in the Files area of this site, there is a .pdf with names of solvents in each country, it came in handy for me.

 

[omega-scar]

Thanx ghostman. SWIM is in Romania, and no, it is not listed in that document, although it is in Europe :lol: but it doesn't surprise me at all :lol: It hapends all the time.
Anyhowz, this is getting so frustrating... swim could just as well go and make some photos of the labels and then research them on the net. He found out there is a kind of 'safety data sheet' available on google for what he bought today. It's written in romanian but the chemical names are international so maybe somebody can tell him if it is ok or not to use. It's weird that the PDF lists around 4 ingredients, while the label only says "light benzine 50-100%"

 

[Virola78]

Perhaps visit some shop were they sell camping stuff. They usually sell 'coleman fuel', which a fuel for the camping heater. As far as I have understood this stuff is fairly clean nafta. But hopefully some1 else can affirm/deny this.
Because Im not sure.

EDIT (2-1-2010)
apparently there are rust inhibitors in the coleman fuel

What Naphta, Coleman Fuel or Terpentine? - FAQ - All your basic questions and answers - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

 

[camakazi]

just cureous... why not zippo fluid? Is that not just the same as swan lighter fluid?

 

[soulfood]

I think when people say not to use Zippo they are refering to all solvent intended for use as ignition fuel as they're meant to have anti rust treatment in them. I've used Swan and coleman fuel and they both seemed fine.

I'm trying to stay away from lighter fluid now though, because it's expensive.

 

[cellux]

Hi knowledgeable people,

I'm also searching for naphtha and I found petroleum ether in a local chem store. The store sells two different kinds of PE, one with a boiling point of 35-40 C, the other 80-100 C. Which one should I buy?

Researching on the Nexus, I found a post by Rivea where he wrote the following:

I decided to use PE (benzine) of a light grade because it would evaporate quickly if I chose to use techs relying on evaporation instead of low temp (freeze) precipitations. Maybe I went a little overboard using the 35/60 °C fraction because it is extremely volatile and can easily build up a lot of pressure in a seperation funnel when warmed if not properly vented.

I know that using warm/hot solvent pulls more DMT so I plan on heating up the solvent (in a hot water bath) when doing the extraction. Does the relatively low boiling point mean that I shouldn't heat the PE warmer than it's BP (otherwise it will evaporate)?

 

[home.grown.twinkie]

http://best4smoke.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/BF1005-RONSONOL_5oz.219141816_std.jpg that is Naptha. make sure on the bottle it says nothing about containing Benzine or Benzeline. Naptha is a mixture of Petroleum Ether and Hydrocarbons
At least to my understanding that's what it is.

 

[KinkyJohn]

When I was looking for naptha I just wandered into shops saying I wanted some pure naptha for cleaning computer components, and I didn't want any residue because it could kill the components. Just try asking, it's used for a lot of stuff, and quite a lot of stores will have it.

Just got all the security stickers off my passport with mine!

 

[lupshzeee]

olso from Romania and it s a big headacke finding naphtha or smthin similar..any
ideas ?

 

[Ion]

Hi, I'm in Romania as well. Did anybody find a good naphtha source? Thank you