Sabnock1990
Be Your Own Shaman
DownwardsFromZero got me thinkin', so i tried my hand at it tonight, currently in the 4th hour of this dark roast Rue tea. Basically and simply put, by roasting Syrian Rue seed to a dark roast, the Harmaline content of the Rue seemingly either breaks down, or converts to Harmine, i think it breaks down, because if it were converting to Harmine, the Harmine content would get stronger, but i don't think that's what's going on, i think Harmaline is simply breaking down due to the roasting process. So the resulting dark roast Rue, is devoid of Harmaline content, making for a Harmine-dominant Rue brew (that glows blue instead of green), different from the usual Harmaline-dominant (but also with good amounts of Harmine) raw green glowing Rue brew that we'd usually get.
I've roasted Rue seed before many times (thanks to those who've talked about it, and who had gotten me talking about it) but i usually always did a light roast, and so i had some extra light roast powder in a bag tucked away in a drawer that i decided to try first. Weighed out 5 grams of this light roast, brewed it up, it glowed green, dang!
So, i did the dark roast, 5 grams of raw Rue seed in a stainless steel pan on the stove at medium to medium high heat, let all the seeds pop (while swirling them around to make sure they're all evenly coated), even left it on the heat for an extra minute or two after they all popped just to be sure (all in all took about 10 to 12 minutes). At first i thought i burned them a little bit, but turns out, it was just fine. Brewed it up, checked the fluorescence... and there she was, the Blue. Oh Harmine, so precious. Although, towards the end there when concentrating it down to a drinkable amount (which ended up being a little over a cup, but maybe not a full 2 cups) i noticed this precipitate forming/coming out, idk if it's tannins or what, but i didn't bother filtering them out (although i probably could've, i just didn't know what it was/is) and just stirred the tea to get it all spread out again as i was drinking it.
And much to my surprise, a pretty dang clean tea (though that could've been due to it being whole seed, compared to the powdered seed of the light roast, even so though, i feel like the dark roast would be clean, idk), and not only that, but i'll be damned, it was extremely drinkable, like no joke, we all know how foul Rue can be (though one shouldn't let such foulness obscure the awesomeness of the Rue), but this was extremely drinkable, though i did add some sugar for sweetness, but no problemo on the palate. Had this slight almost plastic-like taste to it, in a way.
This dark roast is definitely Harmine-dominant, seemingly devoid of Harmaline, i know Rue/Harmalas very well (SS/Sabnock here), and i could tell the difference right away, and it feels much better compared to my prior experiences with light roasted Rue. This changes things man, not only has it opened me up to a side of the Rue i haven't really experienced before (in all the work i've done with it), but also has opened me up to Rue tea, because i'm usually a capsule guy for my Rue/Harmalas, but this dark roast definitely changes things.
As for the dosage, i went with 5 grams because i didn't wanna go light, i wanted to make sure i felt it, and surprisingly, not bad at all. 5 grams of raw seed would've floored me big time, 5 grams of dark roast on the other hand, strong, but very gentle (although that could've also had to do with the fact that it took me about 10 minutes to drink the tea, so i sipped it, so that may have made it kick in smoother, like it does with Acacia/Mimosa teas), no discomfort (maybe some very slight gut funkiness but easily ignorable), very physically relaxing and clearheaded, pretty functional, and different body feel compared to the raw seed. I say go for the 5 grams, don't be afraid, 3 grams may be a bit too light, perhaps, 5 grams is golden, to me anyways, so far. Go for the 5 grams lol (of dark roast). Makes me wonder how high up on the dosage we can go with this, i wonder how 7 to 10 grams or so would be.
DownwardsFromZero mentioned about how there should be a thread about this, so i guess i'll kickstart it lol. I just wanna say, thanks to DFZ and all the others who have been spreading awareness about roasted Rue, myself included, and i hope that more people will experiment with this and see how it goes for them. It would also be nice to have some Nexian analysis done on the dark roast, if possible, so we can see what all we're workin' with here.
I've roasted Rue seed before many times (thanks to those who've talked about it, and who had gotten me talking about it) but i usually always did a light roast, and so i had some extra light roast powder in a bag tucked away in a drawer that i decided to try first. Weighed out 5 grams of this light roast, brewed it up, it glowed green, dang!
So, i did the dark roast, 5 grams of raw Rue seed in a stainless steel pan on the stove at medium to medium high heat, let all the seeds pop (while swirling them around to make sure they're all evenly coated), even left it on the heat for an extra minute or two after they all popped just to be sure (all in all took about 10 to 12 minutes). At first i thought i burned them a little bit, but turns out, it was just fine. Brewed it up, checked the fluorescence... and there she was, the Blue. Oh Harmine, so precious. Although, towards the end there when concentrating it down to a drinkable amount (which ended up being a little over a cup, but maybe not a full 2 cups) i noticed this precipitate forming/coming out, idk if it's tannins or what, but i didn't bother filtering them out (although i probably could've, i just didn't know what it was/is) and just stirred the tea to get it all spread out again as i was drinking it.
And much to my surprise, a pretty dang clean tea (though that could've been due to it being whole seed, compared to the powdered seed of the light roast, even so though, i feel like the dark roast would be clean, idk), and not only that, but i'll be damned, it was extremely drinkable, like no joke, we all know how foul Rue can be (though one shouldn't let such foulness obscure the awesomeness of the Rue), but this was extremely drinkable, though i did add some sugar for sweetness, but no problemo on the palate. Had this slight almost plastic-like taste to it, in a way.
This dark roast is definitely Harmine-dominant, seemingly devoid of Harmaline, i know Rue/Harmalas very well (SS/Sabnock here), and i could tell the difference right away, and it feels much better compared to my prior experiences with light roasted Rue. This changes things man, not only has it opened me up to a side of the Rue i haven't really experienced before (in all the work i've done with it), but also has opened me up to Rue tea, because i'm usually a capsule guy for my Rue/Harmalas, but this dark roast definitely changes things.
As for the dosage, i went with 5 grams because i didn't wanna go light, i wanted to make sure i felt it, and surprisingly, not bad at all. 5 grams of raw seed would've floored me big time, 5 grams of dark roast on the other hand, strong, but very gentle (although that could've also had to do with the fact that it took me about 10 minutes to drink the tea, so i sipped it, so that may have made it kick in smoother, like it does with Acacia/Mimosa teas), no discomfort (maybe some very slight gut funkiness but easily ignorable), very physically relaxing and clearheaded, pretty functional, and different body feel compared to the raw seed. I say go for the 5 grams, don't be afraid, 3 grams may be a bit too light, perhaps, 5 grams is golden, to me anyways, so far. Go for the 5 grams lol (of dark roast). Makes me wonder how high up on the dosage we can go with this, i wonder how 7 to 10 grams or so would be.
DownwardsFromZero mentioned about how there should be a thread about this, so i guess i'll kickstart it lol. I just wanna say, thanks to DFZ and all the others who have been spreading awareness about roasted Rue, myself included, and i hope that more people will experiment with this and see how it goes for them. It would also be nice to have some Nexian analysis done on the dark roast, if possible, so we can see what all we're workin' with here.