I do think 5Me0 has great potential. I don't think "modern day" shaman such as Dr Gerry are a positive development though. I am sceptical of anybody who claims to know the "Truth", would you give your thoughts on Martin Ball?
Hey Fidelsbeard, I hear you. And no since my two 5-MeO/Bufo experiences last year, I've heard some less than savoury things about Dr Gerry's behaviour and conduct from multiple sources...including one person who knows him well, and someone I see as having little reason to lie. I'm grateful to Dr Gerry in the sense that he acted as my bridge to those 5-MeO breakthrough experiences (the second experience of which was the pivotal event of my life to date)...I wanted someone else to worry about the dose and the dosing for me those first few times, and him being an MD appealed. Although I've heard (and seen) poor things relating to his conduct since then, I can't really fault his conduct at the time, although the setup was very much revolving door in vibe, with no real time for preparation or post session integration. So in some sense, he is acting as a messenger and getting it out there, but issues with his conduct and behaviour do concern me.
Prior to my breakthrough 5-MeO experiences, I kinda disregarded Martin Ball and wasn't that interested in his perspectives. Following my own proper 5-MeO breakthrough experiences I do think a fair bit of what he has to say is valid, and he certainly has a lot of experience. However he seems rather fixed and dogmatic and inflexible in his 5-MeO influenced perspective, and this doesn't resonate with me that much, personally. I resonate more with James Oroc and his more open and less dogmatic perspective, personally.
Human existence is a construct of the ego and is necessarily illusion so that our species can exist in the material world. The material world can be measured, knowledge of how the cosmos is constructed is of interest for it's own sake regardless of our human egos, the universe is there and we are part of it. On a sub atomic level, quantum mechanics cannot be measured so any ultimate truth from measuring is impossible. Knowledge will always be incomplete. The value of the 5ME0 experience is there whether the way it works is understood or not. Would it not be amazing though, to know that experiencing the connection between all things once the "I" is removed from the story is real and not just a creation of the brain? I wish there were different words to use other than "God", to me it comes with so much baggage...Einstein did not believe in god but used the word. I like the words of his you quoted, he also said something like "God doesn't play dice with the universe" but was a bit wrong about that one Smile
Good stuff, I hear you and appreciate the reflection. It is interesting a number of other 5-MeOnuats would never ever have used the term "God" to describe their perspective or insight prior to their 5-MeO breakthrough experience, and this applies to myself. I appreciate no word has more baggage attached to it, or means a wider variety of things to different people. But I think one can use it, divorced of this baggage, and in some way it is a bit more succinct and to-the-point than a term like "ultimate reality" or something like that. Others may prefer to use "Source" or another term, which more or less is the dreaded "G word" re-worded. But yeah I can totally see why people would be uncomfortable employing such a term.
Yet this "importantly timed for the world" point of view, I really get the drift but TBH I've heard that before about ayahuasca, it was also incentive of the 'Brotherhood Of Eternal Love', and now shifted towards another level with 5meo. I do believe 5meo is most powerful more than the others given the testimonies, but that world-thingy gives me also a bit deja-vu feeling.
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Hey Jees
100%, can't not agree with you here! We need to be careful not to get ahead of ourselves and I certainly don't wish to do that. In my experience, relative to the other psychedelics, 5-MeO appears quite unique in its remarkable power, consistency, directness and speed in connecting different people to what appears to be a core, universal human transcendent or mystical experience. I don't think it's going to save the world or anything, but in a world of ever increasing disconnection (humans from nature, humans from other humans, humans from other beings), it seems like 5-MeO could be a valuable tool and in some respects act as an antidote to this negative human condition.
Love and fear the 5-meo-dmt breakthrough experience. The coming up phase is the most terrifying psychedelic experience I've ever had. I get a very strong feeling that I'm about to die or am already dead. Then when you realize your not dead it is a beautiful serene peaceful head space to be in.
Hey burnt, has been a while, good to see you back here. I concur 100%...I have to admit that my breakthrough experiences, particularly the second experience I can recall more of, were terrifying at points. I remember as I was going deeper into the infinite light space, I was shedding more and more aspects of my humanity...feelings, experiences, memories...not one after the other in linear order, but more all at once in one single unfolding moment...at that point I felt like I had gone totally bonkers or was really in the act of dying. Very powerful stuff for sure, but something I feel very lucky to have had the opportunity to experience.
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