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Can you expand on it a bit more? Thank you.
Yes. The fourth paragraph of your opening post brought it to my mind; Your second response to Cosmic River in this thread further cemented the association along with the back and forth --- the idea that the current prevailing configuration of the DMN is somehow "anti life" or less than optimal, less enjoyable etc. than it could be or was in our past and what could be done about this.
That book by Julian Jaynes and the Golden Bough pair well together
 
When it comes to the light, I use some extra lighting similar to @blig-blug.
Vitamin D3 is a must for SAD symptoms. I would be lost without an occasional medicine ceremony, too. The social aspect plays a big part, and good, human, hearty warmth is always appreciated.
May I ask what kind of light you are using? I live more to the south in eastern Europe, but December can get pretty dark here and I really suffer with SAD during it.
 
This is a very strange book, but it has some ideas that are related to some of what has been discussed, in very original ways: The Decadence Of The Shamans
A particularly good quote from it:

The Decadence of Shamans said:
Thus, man’s ‘advantage’ of being able to separate himself from the stream of nature, to orient himself as a distinct and self-conscious being, is transformed by alienation into the disadvantage that he now confronts “the sensuous external world...the objects of nature, as an alien world inimicalty opposed to him” (ibid, pill): his very separation from nature has become the curse of loneliness, the feeling of being a single particle in a world of competing and hostile atoms. And, extrapolating from the same passage, we can also say that the distinctly human awareness of time, man’s unique ability to purposefully plan his activity, is also transformed by alienated labour into a permanent sacrifice of enjoyment to the storing up of goods for tomorrow, into a perpetual sense of anxiety, an incapacity to live life in the present tense. The mythopoetic version of this paradox is the story of how man lost the friendship of the animals: he has raised himself above the other animals, but only at the price of losing his “inorganic body, nature”, something that the animals can never be deprived of, because they are nature; unlike man, they are able to live to the full the life proper to their species.

"The Decadence Of The Shamans or, shamanism as a key to the secrets of communism" 😂
What a title!!! I'm sold 😍
Haha, as I said it's quite strange. However with communism the author means the no State and no nations kind, not the Red Square Victory Parade kind. I don't agree with much of what he says, but he has very interesting ideas.
 
May I ask what kind of light you are using? I live more to the south in eastern Europe, but December can get pretty dark here and I really suffer with SAD during it.
I am not a fan of SAD lamps, and they cost a fortune, so we just use a quality daylight lamp in the winter. Just get one with high lumens and some quality LEDs.
Mine is a "V-Tac 50W slim LED @4000K." I would go for a warmer white, but they have a lower output, and it will not be daylight then.
It lasts a few years and has made a considerable contribution to our well-being. You can get a few for the price of one SAD lamp :ROFLMAO:

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First, the idea of domestication is really interesting. Think about how our ancestors had to be super alert and use all their senses to survive. They had to navigate vast, unpredictable environments, which probably kept their brains super active and engaged. Now, with our more comfortable and controlled lives, it's like we've traded some of that natural alertness for convenience. This shift could definitely affect how our DMN functions.

Then there's the whole diet thing. Our ancestors were nomadic, eating a wide variety of foods as they moved around. Now, with agriculture, our diets have become more standardized. The gut is often called the "second brain," and changes in our diet can have a huge impact on our overall health and brain function. It's like our modern diets might be messing with our gut bacteria, which in turn affects our brains. This could be a big factor in why we see so many modern diseases.
It's a cool idea that they might have had a more intuitive or right-hemisphere-dominated way of thinking. Maybe our modern, left-hemisphere-dominated way of processing information is a result of our more structured and logical societies. It's like we've shifted from a more holistic, intuitive way of thinking to a more analytical one.


If you're interested in exploring these ideas further, you might want to look into neuroplasticity, evolutionary psychology, cultural neuroscience, and the gut-brain axis. These fields can give you a more detailed look at how our brains adapt and change over time ;)
Thanks for your opinion ;)
 
I am not a fan of SAD lamps, and they cost a fortune, so we just use a quality daylight lamp in the winter. Just get one with high lumens and some quality LEDs.
Mine is a "V-Tac 50W slim LED @4000K." I would go for a warmer white, but they have a lower output, and it will not be daylight then.
It lasts a few years and has made a considerable contribution to our well-being. You can get a few for the price of one SAD lamp :ROFLMAO:

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Sorry @northape, I have to disagree. I have noticed a big difference between non SAD lamps and SAD lamps. I suppose you can buy LEDs of the equivalent spectrum (and quality! that's the difficult part) and get the same effects, but none of the ones I tried were as effective as a SAD lamp. I've had it for 9 years already and it was about 120 euros, so it's not that expensive. I carry it around with me all the time when I travel.

So it probably varies, like many things! Maybe the best course is to try a cheaper one first and go for a SAD if it's not enough. The cheaper one will still be useful.
 
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Then there's the whole diet thing. Our ancestors were nomadic, eating a wide variety of foods as they moved around. Now, with agriculture, our diets have become more standardized. The gut is often called the "second brain," and changes in our diet can have a huge impact on our overall health and brain function. It's like our modern diets might be messing with our gut bacteria, which in turn affects our brains. This could be a big factor in why we see so many modern diseases
Have you looked into Inulin Fiber? Taking it changes the composition of the gut bacteria in a lasting positive way that leads to more energy and elevated mood. It's very cheap, tons of research ( i just found out about it)
 
Sorry @northape, I have to disagree. I have noticed a big difference between non SAD lamps and SAD lamps. I suppose you can buy LEDs of the equivalent spectrum (and quality! that's the difficult part) and get the same effects, but none of the ones I tried were as effective as a SAD lamp. I've had it for 9 years already and it was about 120 euros, so it's not that expensive. I carry it around with me all the time when I travel.

So it probably varies, like many things! Maybe the best course is to try a cheaper one first and go for a SAD if it's not enough. The cheaper one will still be useful.
Yeah, I know about the difference. The situation here is unique: we literally have a light deficiency in general. It is too darn dark most of the time. If you live in a city, it is somewhat bearable because of streetlights and so on. Here in the village, it is just dark, and home LED bulbs do nothing. So we need to install something more advanced.
I will make a few pictures when the season hits for real. You will get it right away. These 50W LEDs made one hell of a difference. Now we wake up and turn it on right away. It is like a mini Sun in comparison to the outside. Thanks, anyway 🤗

Edit: In no way am I trying to downplay the place of SAD lamps. People just need to consider their situation and what they need. Sorry, I've been hit by the moon 🌚
 
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Have you looked into Inulin Fiber? Taking it changes the composition of the gut bacteria in a lasting positive way that leads to more energy and elevated mood. It's very cheap, tons of research ( i just found out about it)
It is a good practice in general to supplement with fiber. Most of us are eating too little of it nowadays.
 
Have you looked into Inulin Fiber? Taking it changes the composition of the gut bacteria in a lasting positive way that leads to more energy and elevated mood. It's very cheap, tons of research ( i just found out about it)
Jerusalem artichokes/topinambur are a noted source of this fructose-based polysaccharide. Their qualities in combination with enteric bacterial action could go a long way towards explaining your choice of moniker ;)
 
How would this factor into the subject of the thread?…also how different groups of people can make use of light in northern regions? What about diet?

We can also look at how temperature effects the mind and consciousness.

Look at different pedagogical techniques involving cold to increase cognitive stimulation. Then consider how you cognitively feel when it's hot out. Now apply both to populations over time.

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Edit: and hence why most value judgments and comparisons between groups of people around the world are generally senseless. We're not talking so much about the people as we are the effects of the myriad of factors found within their environments.
 
Jerusalem artichokes/topinambur are a noted source of this fructose-based polysaccharide. Their qualities in combination with enteric bacterial action could go a long way towards explaining your choice of moniker ;)

Great reminder. This vegetable is found in abundance where I live and it is delicious. The season is winter, and I will make sure to eat as much as I can all winter.
 
Look at different pedagogical techniques involving cold to increase cognitive stimulation. Then consider how you cognitively feel when it's hot out. Now apply both to populations over time.
What about all the origins of civilization? Places like Egypt, India, Iran, Peru, and so on were cradles of different highly advanced cultures. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something?
 
Look at it continentally rather than culturally. Europe vs Africa for example.

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Okay, now it makes more sense. I agree that we need a specific environment to thrive.
Egypt was green less than 6,000 years ago, so the climate was much better. I think the same applies to other places.
I wonder if cognitive stimulation from the cold means left-brain stimulation. It would be nice to know.
 
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