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Dendrobium nobile - A psychoactive Orchid with effects similar to Cannabis

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interesting stuff sorce. The effects of the supplement are comparable to a mild opiate buzz, all the energy and none of the nod. However, when i take it with a dose of kratom, the effects are very much increased. Still having trouble finding this exact plant. I had ordered one, but it turned out to be a different varriety...
 
Hey!

It took me a while...but look what I got today! :love:
 

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Yeah, isn't it?

So...now I have this plant. I will do a bioessay. Is there anything how I can contribute to this thread, beside writing down the results here?
 
steppa said:
Does anything speak against putting the flower in a vaporizer without drying it first?
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You bring the substances in the flowers to the boiling point with the vaporizer. If the key substance doesn't need oxidation or UV radiation to be converted into being active, why not?
Drying just removes the water molecules from the flowers slowly, you basically do this quickly with the vaporizer. PPL do vaporize buds fresh from cannabis plants successfully, I don't see, why you can't do this with your flowers as well.

Maybe you want to be careful with plants fresh from the nursery. As this isn't a plant ppl normally ingest, it's possible that it's heavily treated with lipophile pesticides. They stick to the plant, so water doesn't wash them away. Just a thought.
 
steppa said:
And a good one. Is there any way to find out if this is the case? I could wash the flower with ethanol, lol. :p
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Probably only with a GC/MS analysis. Or your body will tell you :) The idea with the ethanol could work, but the question is, if the plant has absorbed the pesticides. But this is just guessing from my side.

If you don't need quick results clone the plant and grow them yourself with or without biodegradable pesticides like "Spruzit" or Neem oil. Or just ask the seller what they did with the plant. You want to put it outside and don't want to harm any bees. Or you're hyperallergic and are afraid it will affect your health.
 
You really made me insecure now. :oops:

I think, what I'll do is to wait till a new flower forms and opens. Then I'll take this one.
 
steppa said:
You really made me insecure now. :oops:
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Haha, well I made you think :lol:

steppa said:
I think, what I'll do is to wait till a new flower forms and opens. Then I'll take this one.
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Good choice. Getting high on pesticides isn't very scientific and spoils the test result.
 
Once i'm in a more comfortable monetary position i will get some of these for my garden :) you can expect a bioassay then.

Any suspicions about the active component of the plant?
 
This is an interesting find. I am curious to see what exactly is in it. I have been fascinated by psycho-actives similar to cannabis like Lion's Tail, and wondering about their medicinal effects beyond what it does in terms of psycho activity. Can't wait to hear more :)
 
Ok. So...

...yesterday I vaporised about a little less than half of a flower in my Herborizer at about 180°C.

I can confirm, that the effects had a lot in common with a canabis high. Colors brightened a bit, slightly shifted headspace but no sign of the so called "couch lock".

It took me a wile to vape this, as it was fresh. About 10 minutes till the petal pieces changed their color to brown. During this time the onset already took place.

After half an hour or so I took a few hits from a joint that was passed arround. I think the effects of the canabis were intensified by the dendrobium nobile.

It all felt pretty good. ...yesterday.

Today, this morning I woke up with the first signs of a cold. I had a runny nose and my throat feels a bit rough. This could be coincidence, tough. I'll give it another try in a week or two.
 
I finally got around to ordering my own dendrobium nobile to add to my ethnobotanical collection and it arrived in the mail this morning. It's a pretty mature one too but is a few months from it's flowering period.

There was a smaller section of stem that was snapped at the base from the travel through the post so I cut it up into little slices (around 3.3 grams wet material which should come to around 0.33grams dry going off of Nicita's earlier posts) and is currently drying, awaiting to be bioassayed.

Once the stem is completely dried would it be possible to vaporise the stem material in a vaporiser in the same fashion as the flower material instead of burning the material in a pipe?

Once I've bioassayed I will add my two cents in to this thread to keep it going, cheers nexians (and Nicita especially!)
 
Hey , i know this post came so late ,but do you think that other kinds of dendrobiumm are trippy too ? cuz i couldnt find any clear research about this ..
 
So... I collected some material and today also got a good Soxhlet apparature. Therefore I can do a pretty effective extraction now.
Any inputs on what solvent could be best? I was thinking about isopropanol, because it should yield a broad spectrum of substances and is not too volatile.
 
Dendrobium nobile extract contains several chemicals. Main chemical compositions:Alkaloids, sesquiterpenoids, Phenanthrenes,Bibenzyls, small amount of polysaccharides. Main active alkaloid: Dendrobine, Dendroxine, Dendramine, nobilonine, 6-hybroxydendrobine, B-Phenylethylamine, N,N-Dimethyl-B-Phenylethylamine, and N,N-Diethyl-B-Phenylethylamine, etc.

So it's defintely psychoactive in some way. It's for sure better than taking pure PEA alone with some hordenine.
Damn Nature it's awesome!

I was looking for something that wasn't like DMAA or nasty stuff, and came upon this, really good news!

Anyway, I think I'll give a shot, I'm curious.
 
I think those phenethylamines are not known from the orchid, they are probably added to the extract.
Btw vaping fresh plant material might not be such a good idea if the plants is known to produce hydrocyanic acid, but then again, the quantities you'd probably be using would not hurt you with most plants.
 
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