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Discussing differences between p.cyanescens and p.cubensis

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I have a half eighth of psilocybe cyanescens. I have had uncountable p.cubensis trips, and recently about 5-7 pan. cinctulus experiences which I found extremely pleasant. Anyway, I just wanted to hear nexians opinions on p.cyans, I hear they are a 'cleaner' experience, more mental and less body heavy than p.cubensis. Also, if anyone wants to discuss pan cinctulus mushrooms and their experiences with them. I have found pan. cincts to be very enjoyable as the doses are so manageable and even in large doses, one feels alot more functional than on a cubensis dose.

I was intending on consuming the cyanescens and going on a hike or doing it at home, in the dark, and just lying down for the experience, which I have never done so I feel a little nervous about cooping myself up like that, even though a half eighth isn't a massive dose.

Thoughts? opinions? rants?
 
half an eigth is definatily a good solid dose of cyans. If you had more I would say start wtih 1 gram only..but since you dont have alot I would say eat them and just be ready to be blasted if they are half decent cyans. They are very powerful mushrooms capable of producing a visionary experience very very much like that of DMT.
 
nen, maybe I misunderstood your post, but were you speculating that the amount of baeocystin in cyanescens may have to do with the dmt-like visual quality?

Erowid Psilocybin Mushroom Vault : Info on Comparitive psilocybe mushroom potencies

Comparison of psilocybin, psilocin and baeocystin contents of 12 psilocybe mushroom varieties.
www.erowid.org

^^ This seems to suggest that p.cubensis, and cyanescens have pretty close amounts of baeocystin. Though of course this is just one sample of mushrooms and I'm sure they vary.

Also, does anyone have much knowledge of baeocystin's psychoactive/physiological effects? I vaguely remember someone speculating about baeocystin being responsible for some of the body effects and 'toxic' like qualities of certain active mushrooms.
 
I dont think it is the baeocystin producing the DMT like quality of cyans..I think it is the high ammount of psilocybin and psilocin..4aco-DMT is also apparently very DMT like, which is very similar to psilocin and some believe to be a psilocin pro-drug.
 
..i've never been able to find much conclusive data on baeocystin..i was under the perhaps false impression there was more in P. cynanescens..
all i know is in my 20s had a few very high dose P. cubensis sessions (20 or more large, potent, on empty stomach) leading to total immersion, and the full 'voice in the head' mushroom entity phenomena..tours of inhabitable planets of the galaxy etc.
but it very much had it's own character, similar to psilocybin containing copelandia species i also tried..
..P. cyanescens (and also P. eucalypta) were very different in character..always somehow more 'DMT-like'..maybe it's relative ratios of psilocybin/psilocyn..
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..for the record..there seem to be no trials of Baeocystin other than
in the book Magic Mushrooms Around the World, author Jochen Gartz reports being aware of a study in which "10 mg of baeocystin were found to be about as psychoactive as a similar amount of psilocybin."
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wikipedia
there are quite a few untested claims in various net threads [mycopia etc.] that species with more baeocystin are more potent, and one claim that it is slightly shorter acting, which i would say of P. cyanescens and eucalypta (in particular)
..yet another area for more research...
 
I think that the differences in quality are because of other substances in p.cubensis, that reduce or 'dilute' the effects of psilocin. High doses of cubensis can feel a little 'muddy'.
 
So yeah, those cyans were good :)

I only ate .75 and I was on a strong level. Took a hike out into my local riparian woodlands. Here's some notes I jotted down..

"There is a sense of indifference and perfection out here. I look at this plant. It's symmetry, it's beauty, but surrounding it: rocks, dirt, indifference. It is what it is. These are strong. There are people nearby. Reluctant, nervous to answer phone, Stillness. Sun. Flies. :) There is humor in this stillness. You can be happy, you can be sad, nature doesn't care. Phone on silent, too stressful. It is what it is. Must watch for mountain lions. These are strong, good thing I only ate .75 g. "

As you can see, I was a bit scattered ;)
 
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