DMT and Memory Loss/Blacking Out

[sorahtak]

I've had this experience a handful of times now and am curious if anyone has had similar experiences.

This has generally happened when vaping unrefined goop derived from distillation/evaporation of naphtha off of DMT extracting using the vinegar/lime A/B method from MHRB.

I'd load up my vape, start ripping decent sized hits, feel the intensity coming on, then find myself sitting on my couch taking minor leftover hits from the vape thinking "Wait, what? What am I doing? Why am I doing this? Wait, did I already do the thing?"

At first I thought it might be that I had gotten into the habit of sipping wine while preparing my dose, but I've had the same thing happen while abstaining from alcohol.

I've tried focusing really hard on remaining mindful and have had some success in doing so, but it is quite easy to totally lose yourself in the trance and snap out of it with a complete blank of what happened past a certain point.

Veering a bit off topic, and apologies if this is a noob question, but I've done recrystalizations separating the goo from the purer stuff. I then vaped the crystals and than later the leftover goo and found both to be quite psychoactive, but somewhat different in character I think. I couldn't find a solid answer from searching or the FAQ. Can anybody tell me what these two substances might be? I assume the xtals are freebase n-n, but what's in that goop?

(I have to acknowledge the possibility that the goo just contained freebase DMT that wasn't extracted, but the trips felt distinctly different, so I'm not sure)

 

[DmnStr8]

Are you measuring your doses? You may be smoking over your threshold and blacking out. Try measuring out like 15mg and move up from there. There are a couple threads on dosages and administration of freebase DMT.

As far as the goo goes. I have somewhat limited understanding of it. I can only provide you with my personal experience with the stuff. Defats helped to eliminate most of the good I was seeing. I found that slow evaps as opposed to freeze evaps were most effective in crystallization growth if that is what you want. My yields are higher with slow evap as well.

When I recrystallize goo and other DMT I will always use a hot solvent (heptane). I then allow it to cool to room temperature. Then into the fridge for a few hours. Then to the freezer. Works great every time with no goo.

My educated guess on the goo is that the DMT has so many impurities that it cannot hold a crystalline form. The defats remove many impurities and allow for the crystals to grow without being impeded by these impurities.

I went from goo to nice white crystals so I did something right. I am learning with you my friend. I recommend experimenting and ask around in the chat. There are so many intelligent and helpful in the nexus to help you! Read and try out a few teks. Experiment. It helps to remember and/or record precisely what steps you took as to know what you did right or wrong.

 

[RAM]

DmnStr8 is correct in that "you may be smoking over your threshold." However are you physically tired when you do use DMT? I've used it at around 3 am after doing work all day and I hardly remembered anything because of how physically and mentally tired I was. Sipping wine in your case probably wouldn't help with this either.

I'd recommend trying a smaller dose during the day after a good night's sleep, but not too close to after you wake up. You should be able to remember more of the trip, but as always everyone has a different subjective experience.