DMT CEV have stopped working

[stationdragon]

Ok guys this is pretty f'd up and I'm really upset about it.
I got some DMT and hit my usual dose, closed my eyes and nothing....I was really high, very deep and lost most of the sense of my living body, I felt like I'd died, this time though I was able to comprehend that I'd smoked DMT and I thought "that one killed me". But the whole time I'm thinking to myself "where the hell is it, I can't see anything" there was vague, distant almost like broken memories of what I usually see on a DMT trip but no in your face, bright, I can't believe what I'm seeing type stuff, at all.
Anyway I suffered with real bad heartburn for a couple of days and my friend came over to partake and I needed his opinion but I was in no state to be taking DMT because of how nasty my heartburn was so I left him to his devices.
He hit it 6-7 times in a 24 hour period and he got real intense CEV and went in deep. One time he was travelling down every conceivable tube in the pattern at the same time and the pattern was alive. Another time he was face to face with the entities and they were playing with him, firing what he described as peas into his mouth, crazy intense stuff like that.
Anyway, he left and some time later my heartburn subsided enough to be comfortable taking DMT.
So I set up my dose, take a couple big chamber fulls, lay back and close my eyes. Guess what...NOTHING. Again, really deep and really tripping, but ZERO CEV, I opened my eyes out of frustration and looked around and the room was covered in the pattern I usually see closed eye, there was life in it like I normally see, closed my eyes. Black.
A friend of mine who takes SSRI's tried DMT and he said he got nothing closed eye but crazy open eye.
I don't take SSRI's, I've been on omeprazole and propranolol for years and these have not affected my recent experiments with DMT at all. I recently stopped omeprazole for personal reasons (hence the bad heartburn) and I've been taking some supplements lately.
Organic cider vinegar (6 tbsp a day), 2-3 DGL liquorice tablets a day, one multi-vitamin and one omega 3,6 & 9 capsule every day.
Apart from that a change in diet to very bland stuff, e.g. porridge with water and no sugar for breakfast, rice with tuna for lunch and a bowl of fruit for dinner. I drink bottled spring water and nothing else.
There's nothing more to tell really but I'm assuming it's the omega oils capsule that's causing it. The reason I say this is because quitting the omeprazole shouldn't diminish CEV, the multivits I've been on a while now and the omega oils are the only thing to have changed since the last time I took DMT. Everything else is just diet, I also can't see how the vinegar could make a difference.
If anybody knows what's going on here please share it with me because I'm miserable over this, I'm wasting DMT and not going to where I love to go.
Thanks anyway, hope you can help

 

[Mustelid]

My own levels of smaller dose visuals vary. Others have described having periods of no visuals. It seems normal, you might need just a bit of a break to get the visuals back.

 

[ymer]

OEV and CEV are so strong on me that I can't imagine how a trip would be with no visuals :shock:

 

[changalvia]

One day I set ip a lawnchair facing the moon, coooked eggs outside in the sun, grabbed a kaleidoscope, tobacco, glass of water and six shooter pipe with 100mg 1:1 changa. All in one lung it was smoked. I got a sliver up my spine and that feeling I have coined as the cilliary feeling (don't think I could explain). No visuals. No OEV or CEV

If you stop thinking about where the f+-k all the visuals have gone to, you might have some other rather amazing thoughts and ideas

DMT is a peacock - DMT Discussion - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

I don't take any medication at all, and my diet consists of total crap like mcds and biscuits, grapes, and fizzy cooldrinks

Other than that, think of the following

*marijuana use (most people don't like to hear this)
*other people in the room
*comfortability (you need to be COMFORTABLE to let go)
*are you ready or forcing yourself?

One of the best tips for advice for anything : DONT FORCE THE SITUATION

Don't worry, every dog has his day

It will return when you are ready (even though you might feel you are)

 

[○]

Sometimes, the DMT experience is as such. Some days, it's just not the day. So many factors could come into play such as food, mindset, setting, etc. Even the fact of vaping, as some are variable in their smoking/vape method, one day you could get solid hits, then the next day you could only manage sub-par hits due to lighter distance/intensity of flame/etc.

But, like i said, some days..it aint happenin.

Much love, tat

 

[Global]

But the whole time I'm thinking to myself "where the hell is it, I can't see anything" there was vague, distant almost like broken memories of what I usually see on a DMT trip but no in your face, bright, I can't believe what I'm seeing type stuff, at all.

This happened to me a couple weeks ago. It was very unsettling. There was this dark presence there and it was like I could sort of see it, but sort of not. The whole DMT "program" was running, but it was very much obscured or invisible. It was like watching a shadow realm of hyperspace unfold. Very creepy. It thankfully hasn't happened to me again since.

I recall that that particular experience had unfolded strangely too. You see usually my trips commence with 2D OEV energy patterns building up on the wall, becoming multidimensional holograms that then proceed to float their way over to align with me, and then I'll close my eyes, and everything will be under way.

In this particular experience however, I was greeted with this "shadow" hologram. I had never seen anything like it. It was translucent and kind of greyish but with all the hallmarks of a typical DMT hologram otherwise. When I closed my eyes, I was waiting...and waiting...and waiting...and then I realized that I had smoked DMT, and that something should be happening (I shouldn't be just staring at the back of my eyelids into darkness). With that thought, all of a sudden (still with my eyes closed) I notice this dark sludge sort of oozing out of the background as if out of a dark cavern to slowly creep its way over to me. I opened my eyes, and everything was unfolding...yet it wasn't all at the same time. Very hard to explain, though I imagine you know what I mean based on what you've said. I am quite thankful it hasn't happened to me again since. If I see another phantom hologram, I'm probably gonna just get up, and book for the door and get outside :lol:

 

[stationdragon]

Thanks for your replies.
Don't really know what's going on here. My only thought is I'm not welcome into hyperspace but I'm allowed to trip in my room. Aside from that I've not got a clue. All I know is how jealous I am of my friend for having those 6-7 experiences he had off the DMT, his were great.
Really feel like I'm missing out

 

[changalvia]

Yes it can be extremely disheartening at first - especially when your friends are having good expeiences.

But don't force it.

I tried once... To force it..

And all that happened was at the end of the night I saw a faint shimmering green face on my bedroom wall smiling at me, like you said: 'not allowing me into hyperspace'

Like mocking me.

And so I said to the face: You don't want to let me in? Fine. And fell asleep.

Next morning and I realise I had vaped up 3/4 of a gram just to see a face on the wall.

Its not worth it. Take your time and focus on other aspects of your life, and maybe even save the vapes for special occasions like the woods or mountain, I always found it to be much more rewarding this way.

Good luck, you're not the first to go through this, and definitely not the last.

 

[Felnik]

Best advice coming from my own experience is to
Take a break . It's simple and effective , the longer the better.
It will be there better than ever when you come back .

I have hiked to the top of small mountains with everything
Seemingly perfect only to be refused entry on many occasions .

Forcing it is not a good idea it only gets worse and is
A total waste of precious spice .

Live this reality to its fullest in the mean time align yourself
And ground yourself and prepare for the next run .

 

[jamie]

try eating some DMT.

Eating DMT solves any frustrations I have at times with vaporizing the stuff. Of course you have to eat harmalas also..or brew ayahuasca..w/e you want.

 

[stationdragon]

Hi guys,

just wanted to let you all know that I finally got through my mysterious barrier while you were busy giving me advice. I missed the advice to take a break and don't force it but it wouldn't have done any good because I was too determined to give up. I knew there was a problem and I wanted to find out what and work with it.
Well that day I managed two quite powerful trips and one the following day. Funnily enough once I'd actually gotten what I was after I got it again that day and the following day first try, not exactly what I was looking for of course because there can be no expectation with this stuff but I reached the level I wanted and some.
The first one I achieved was pretty good, I knew how it was going to appear to me when I closed my eyes and I was right. I can't really describe it as it's hard to picture when I'm not deep inside or perching on the afterglow but the pattern/living substance looked how I had imagined and before I knew it I was in their world surrounded by the entities again. They were happy that I had come but I was also very aware that they had been blocking my attempts but they were overjoyed that it was finally time for me to see the truth.
They were all dancing and playing around me, it was a "playground" trip as I like to call it, when it feels like they're just really playful and happy to see you, they greet you and often gift you here. That's what I got.
They suddenly gave me back my happiness, literally released it and it came flying at me and wrapped around me like a warm blanket and I haven't lost it since.
See I'd been miserable for a few days and felt really off, they made it known to me that they'd held onto it because I don't appreciate it when it's there and they want me to so Also I have recently struggled with rejection or I've at least known that it's something that must be sorted out and the realisation hit me not whilst on DMT but on one of the nights after I'd had a session. By forcing me out every time I wanted to go in and be with them they also helped me to deal with feelings of rejection and helped me to plan how to cope with it in the future.
I came back very happy and rejuvenated and the glow hasn't gone yet.
Shortly after, I took another and I found myself in the machine room for the first time. I'd heard about these things but could never imagine them, and it's hard to imagine them now after seeing them but I have a rough memory of how it looked. The crazy thing is I saw "them" a lot clearer this time, the machine elves, definitely. They kept turning and looking at me as they pulled the levers and pushed the buttons but they seemed to busy to get involved, they all seemed very busy at work. I felt like I was watching atoms being charged, DNA pieced together and stars being born but behind the curtain. About a minute after I came back from that one, I wept. It was total confirmation of something bigger and I felt overjoyed and comforted by it, though it was a very weird and alien experience (as are they all).
The following day I had a crazy one. I took one MASSIVE hit from the machine (mine's quite large as we just through it together last minute and it's been a good little tool to have but probably around a litre capacity and the vapour was thick yellow and took several seconds to clear the chamber). I held it for about 10 seconds and simply couldn't hold on any longer. I was whizzing through the experience at a high rate of speed and with my last conscious moments I decided to push the limits and take another hit. I didn't manage anything like the previous one but I got a little extra on top just to ensure I went a littler deeper than I ever have before.
I lay back and closed my eyes and I was shocked to see this instant array of sparkling dots arranged all the way across the rectangle that was my vision, these soon burst into really bright and colourful lights. I always get golds, oranges and chocolate browns (in spectrums that go beyond what our eyes see) but it's almost always those colours. I've had a couple of blinding cream coloured light and stuff but nothing like what I got next.
The dots suddenly transformed into a huge structure that shifted and moved in the usual way but it was like a ceiling as opposed to wrapped around me. I kept seeing it as a church ceiling for some reason, probably the colours I associated with stained glass maybe but it was soooo bright and colourful, there were blues, greens, yellows, pinks, purples and way, way, way beyond the colours I've ever seen on or off DMT.
This multicoloured spectral ceiling descended upon me and soon I felt totally submerged, the structure became teeming with entities and they started flying down and bearing over me. I couldn't shut up my thoughts, they just came at light speed zooming in and out before I could catch hold of them. The entities were talking, telling me that they were trying to fix me but couldn't make any promises. Then they started flying into my abdomen and flying back out again, they'd bear down on me and smile, lay their hand on me to soothe me and fly in and back out.
I usually laugh on DMT, in the midst of it I usually find it funny but in a playful way simply because of how ridiculous the whole event is and all that I'm witnessing, it's a happy laughter. There was none of this on this trip, I smiled I know that much but no laughing, it was deadly serious.
They worked really fast because they knew I wouldn't be there for long and before I knew it I was back, it had been 7 minutes and felt like 2, really strange. The machine room trip lasted 15. Twice as long as my usual time away

Anyway, I got my time with them and I had full on interaction and I'm happy.
Now I can go on holiday in peace

Thanks for all your support and advice

 

[Journeymann]

...
I got some DMT...

:!: What extraction tek did you use to start with?

 

[fry]

I am having the same problem, Im pretty shure im taking enough because when I close my eyes I lose a few minutes and don't remember anything until my eyes open.

but reading these responses I have a theory.

is it possible that when people go through these times of "darkness" and lack of "CEV's" could possibly be because we're trying to expedite the experience?

basically what I'm thinking is, the one time I had the most intense visuals my living room turned yellow gold and red then started to kaleidoscope then formed a perfect intensely red cog in which I could see a torso shadow figure standing in the light of the cog looking at me, then I woke up with no idea what was going on.

each other time I closed my eyes as soon as my ears start to ring.. and all I get is blackness.

it would seem that allowing your eyes go close naturally may be the key, maybe the brain needs bombarded with information before entering this trance like state or it has nothing to work with?

just an idea

 

[stationdragon]

Just typed out a lengthy reply and my computer lost the message, can't be f'd to do it again now. I'll see how I'm feeling tomorrow. Damn technology...