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DMT community in AUSTRIA?

The fun thing about MHRB is that it has pretty high yield (although 2 percent is rare quality, count more on 1 percent). But thats not all: you can do a straight-to-base extraction on it, which is easier to do then an acid-base extraction.

This is because MHRB does not have much, if any, alkaloids in the material that you dont want, while other plants often do have those alkaloids, and thus require the acid/base process to filter them out.

The dmt in the final product is exactly the same, since its just a molecule. Ayahuasca brews dont extract the dmt, but just use the entire plant, people prefer this plant or the other, depending on availability and preferences.
 
Dan is mimosa bark illegal in Austria? otherwise this would be your best bet, 5-MeO-DMT is different, as fas I know there’s no reliable plant source for this that will yield a clean product.

@ bas The acid base approach does not filter or is much more selective than the STB in most cases.
 
Bas Sarkin said:
Oh, I thought acacia etc normally needed a a/b extraction for that reason... Hmmm. I stand corrected.
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That’s true so it does seem a bit more selective than an stb and my statement is to short and lacks sufficient detail, but anyway it is not a very good approach for separating compounds. You could see the stb variant as an process where the dmt is probably already present as a salt in the bark, therefore adding a acidic stage is likely to be almost the same thing as doing a mini an afther an stb but the in one step.
 
Spirit_Dan said:
I also searched for local Acacia trees containing DMT, but in Austria ther are none. According chatGPT, ther are literally no local plants in Austria that contain notewothy amounts of DMT.
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When looking for tryptamine-bearing plants, I can only suggest that you take steps to familiarise yourself with the ethnobotanical literature, and take up gardening. Get a few cacti on the go while you're at it! There are plenty of resource to help with this quest if you take due diligence in searching the forum more deeply.

For native German-speakers, the works of a certain Christian Rätsch may prove to be of some considerable use.

ChatGPT does not constitute an all-knowing oracle, no matter what the hype appears to indicate. I'm far from alone in witnessing it fabricate references to nonexistent scientific papers, for example.
 
Synthese produce by-products and have contaminants, it is very dependent upon the skill of the “chemist” if its clean. The skill level and understanding needed is generally much higher than that of a kitchen hobbyist making an extract.

I’m not sure how much experience you have with psychedelics but 5Meo is not a good place to start. Good luck and see if you can get a copy of the toad pamphlet.
 
Varallo said:
[Being a materialist and atheist is not taking the mystery out of live or makes you incapable of experiencing mystical, spiritual, inexplicable states of consciousness. It’s what comes after where difference is, there's just no excuse to use superstition as explanation.
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So, you think your brain alone (not your soul) does creat the DMT experience? I actually want to try DMT because I want to make the spiritual experience.

Thanks for the link btw. Is there a free online vesion too?
 
Spirit_Dan said:
Thanks for the link btw. Is there a free online vesion too?
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Somebody here might have a copy of the original sacred toad leaflet (I haven't checked my own files yet and honestly can't remember if it's there), but there are also a few more good resources about the 5-MeODMT experience that I've seen shared here from time to time.

I've had a quick look and it appears the documents I have in mind haven't been uploaded into the resources section yet.
 
I have been looking for the pamphlet with the Hamilton Morris addition myself pretty hard, its nearly impossible to find. The publisher ('cream') is out of stock, and will perhaps in a year or so print another batch (He said via email). On the second hand market they sell like three for insane prices, and its mostly unclear if its the latest version (6th)...

So if anyone has the pamphlet: please share :giggle:
 
Spirit_Dan said:
So, you think your brain alone (not your soul) does creat the DMT experience? I actually want to try DMT because I want to make the spiritual experience.

Thanks for the link btw. Is there a free online vesion too?
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I think that every thing I experience is just me being, the concept of having a soul is not something I recognize since it was never part of my upbringing, to me it’s a concept that others have. My materialistic view is also more complex than what the pure concept implies, I also have strong constructivists views and in a allot of ways I hold a, what’s sometimes called a New materialists perspective.
The spiritual experience is certainly part of my life and is very much connected with my dmt use, and aw for nature. At times during trips I have met gods and goddesses and even have become part of them dissolving in there bliss. But I don’t view this experience as something that is real or not, it’s me experiencing it as part of a trip and that makes it part of me being. When sober I think it most likely implies something a mix of being human and therefore being able to experience that feeling but also my desire for such an experience. I don’t think that it is more than a combination of both coming together as an feeling during a trip. And certainly not something I can act upon or expect to fulfill more than the desire.
 
Varallo said:
I think that every thing I experience is just me being, the concept of having a soul is not something I recognize since it was never part of my upbringing, to me it’s a concept that others have. My materialistic view is also more complex than what the pure concept implies, I also have strong constructivists views and in a allot of ways I hold a, what’s sometimes called a New materialists perspective.
The spiritual experience is certainly part of my life and is very much connected with my dmt use, and aw for nature. At times during trips I have met gods and goddesses and even have become part of them dissolving in there bliss. But I don’t view this experience as something that is real or not, it’s me experiencing it as part of a trip and that makes it part of me being. When sober I think it most likely implies something a mix of being human and therefore being able to experience that feeling but also my desire for such an experience. I don’t think that it is more than a combination of both coming together as an feeling during a trip. And certainly not something I can act upon or expect to fulfill more than the desire.
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I don't understand the second half of your post. I'm in spirituality since 15 years and my experiene suggestes that there is more than physical matter.

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I'm about to start my DMT experience with N, N DMT as contained in mimoa hostilis root bark, but definitly want to experience 5MEO as soon as possible.

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If one taktes MHRB extract orally, does he need MAO inhibitors as well?
 
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Spirit_Dan said:


It states "of drugs" at the end of the scentence. Banisteriopsis caapi is legal in most countries and itself just a MAO inhibitor. Does it fall under rule 2.2 or can its distribution be dicussed here?
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It falls under the category of drugs since caapi contains and is used as a drug. No need to get into the semantics and look for the edge of these rules, just act in the spirit of the rules, they are there to protect you, the members and owner of the nexus.
 
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