I am concerned about the experience I have during my dmt trips, they never seem to match any trip reports that I’ve read about or heard about, they are always very negative and traumatic, my thoughts are repeated back to me over and over again, I always have the same phrase in every trip stuck in my mind, it sounds something like ssshhiiimmmooollpeeowwtt, whenever I do a large dose I get the same but my consciousness leaves my body and I go to a dark lonely void and I can feel the presence of an entity, the entity is in control of my mind and it programs me into hell, with a thought loop and it somehow lets me know that it can keep me in this place for eternity, also it feels very familiar, I never see entities but just a feeling of negativity and hopelessness, I don’t understand why I always have this experience when so many people have great experiences, any ideas?
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Are you taking any other drugs, prescription or otherwise? Try to note the particulars about what you regularly consume. Could be something in your diet. Maybe too much caffeine. Try taking a week or more to clean house. Maybe some fasting to really flush things out and then try again. Before your journey try to clear your mind with some meditation or soothing music. Don’t go into the session expecting the same results as before or you could be causing a recurrence.
Peace and good luck to you.
Peace and good luck to you.
Are there issues in your life? And i mean, realy negative things, like traumatic experiences or problems with your family or loved ones?
The experience is always a reflection of what's going on inside you.
It is probably wise not to take DMT for a while, and work on those issues, if you have identified them. If you have no idea where all this darkness is coming from, then in all likelyhood, taking more DMT is not going to be very helpfull either.
I couldn't tell you how to identify the issues in your life that lead to these dark experiences. It may be difficult. But if you are always in a dark place, then SOMETHING is casting a shadow.
The experience is always a reflection of what's going on inside you.
It is probably wise not to take DMT for a while, and work on those issues, if you have identified them. If you have no idea where all this darkness is coming from, then in all likelyhood, taking more DMT is not going to be very helpfull either.
I couldn't tell you how to identify the issues in your life that lead to these dark experiences. It may be difficult. But if you are always in a dark place, then SOMETHING is casting a shadow.
Green bean and dragon rider, both of you asked a question and the answer is yes to both, I have recently separated from my wife, I am a musician and she left with a guy from a famous British group, and I was/am devastated, and I started drinking and using heroine, and that then caused problems with my mother who’s house I now live as my x is living with another man, I love my mother deeply but am causing her serious stress, I didn’t want to be to quick to jump to the easy conclusion that these are the reasons for my dmt experiences, the dmt experience I have feel extremely familiar and more real than real, and that’s what I cannot understand, if it’s so real and familiar, can mixing drugs be the reason, I actually have plenty of dmt but have decided to not take anymore until I sort my shit out, thank you both for your reply
Hey man, you're going through some difficult stuff. You've experienced some great losses recently and are,or should be, in a grieving process. Adding drugs to the mix can't be a good idea, especially something that you admittedly find quite confusing. It's just going to add to your problems and compound your circumstances.
I am not sure why you can't see these stressors as being unrelated to your experiences. Living at your mom's, doing heroin and DMT isn't any way to live man. DMT isn't going to allow you to escape into oblivion which is what you seem to want.
If you want to change your life, for more reasons than for you to have good trips, then quitting drugs altogether should be a primary concern for you. I'm not sure what recovery resources are around you and what kind of financial or insurance resources you have, but my recommendation would be medicated assisted treatment ala methadone or suboxone. And then once you have a handle on yourself physically begin to see a therapist and work on why ally these things happen. Karma preexisted reality, all things are caused, find the root of your pain and you can end it. Then find a supportive community that works intentionally with psychedelics and explore that route as an adjunct to your recovery. Don't think getting high is going to get you off drugs or fix any of your problems.
Psychedelics can be beneficial to catalyze a recovery through a transformative experience in which one's ego is shattered and they become aware of something greater than themselves experientially, but to escape your grief they are not a very effective agent.
I am in recovery myself, having experienced these things, and i can attest to the efficacy of a well-walked path and thoughtfully constructed practice of holistic recovery. After a 25 year heroin addiction and 6 years of homelessness, now I have over three years free of illicits and close to one in my own home, and am happier and more fulfilled than I've ever been.
You can be too, but but by doing what you're doing.
I look forward to seeing them and hope that your future discussions here revolve around solutions, and i also hope you aren't encouraged by others to explore further at this point, and not because of simple drug interactions. Perhaps you should spend some time preparing for when the time is right.
Good luck, peace, and for you and your mom's sake be good to you.
I am not sure why you can't see these stressors as being unrelated to your experiences. Living at your mom's, doing heroin and DMT isn't any way to live man. DMT isn't going to allow you to escape into oblivion which is what you seem to want.
If you want to change your life, for more reasons than for you to have good trips, then quitting drugs altogether should be a primary concern for you. I'm not sure what recovery resources are around you and what kind of financial or insurance resources you have, but my recommendation would be medicated assisted treatment ala methadone or suboxone. And then once you have a handle on yourself physically begin to see a therapist and work on why ally these things happen. Karma preexisted reality, all things are caused, find the root of your pain and you can end it. Then find a supportive community that works intentionally with psychedelics and explore that route as an adjunct to your recovery. Don't think getting high is going to get you off drugs or fix any of your problems.
Psychedelics can be beneficial to catalyze a recovery through a transformative experience in which one's ego is shattered and they become aware of something greater than themselves experientially, but to escape your grief they are not a very effective agent.
I am in recovery myself, having experienced these things, and i can attest to the efficacy of a well-walked path and thoughtfully constructed practice of holistic recovery. After a 25 year heroin addiction and 6 years of homelessness, now I have over three years free of illicits and close to one in my own home, and am happier and more fulfilled than I've ever been.
You can be too, but but by doing what you're doing.
I look forward to seeing them and hope that your future discussions here revolve around solutions, and i also hope you aren't encouraged by others to explore further at this point, and not because of simple drug interactions. Perhaps you should spend some time preparing for when the time is right.
Good luck, peace, and for you and your mom's sake be good to you.
Don't give up on yourself.
To get clean and get your life back on track, is a no doubt a very difficult phase. But you will have to go through that phase.
It will pass, eventually. But you cannot give up.
To get clean and get your life back on track, is a no doubt a very difficult phase. But you will have to go through that phase.
It will pass, eventually. But you cannot give up.
Null24, thank you for your kind reply, I also had a heroine problem for over 20 years but when I met my x partner I gave up, and completely surprised myself by becoming an engineer, buying a beautiful house and having great children, but when it ended I was completely devastated, and went back into drugs,
I have now lost several jobs, my house and rarely see my children (who I was very close to).
Can I ask you a question, recently I had my tarot cards read and it said many things that were surprisingly close to home, and it said my dreams won’t come true, and I will loose my deep relationship with my kids and many other bad things.
It’s obvious that this is the way my life is heading at the moment but do you believe in tarot cards, and if yes do you think the future is set in stone or can we change our destiny’s?
It’s great to hear about someone like yourself overcoming a hard addiction like you did, well done
Thanks again
I have now lost several jobs, my house and rarely see my children (who I was very close to).
Can I ask you a question, recently I had my tarot cards read and it said many things that were surprisingly close to home, and it said my dreams won’t come true, and I will loose my deep relationship with my kids and many other bad things.
It’s obvious that this is the way my life is heading at the moment but do you believe in tarot cards, and if yes do you think the future is set in stone or can we change our destiny’s?
It’s great to hear about someone like yourself overcoming a hard addiction like you did, well done
Thanks again
pineninja
Rising Star
I don't believe in tarot cards anymore than the tea leaves.
I do believe that if you believe in them (no judgement) than there may be a self fulfilling prophecy.
Dmt like most psycs will mirror back to you the deep seeded positives and negatives in your life.
If you didnt understand the message that the dmt experience was shown you than itll be for naught.
Perhaps the nastiness that you had during the experience is but a reflection of the difficulties youre going through in life.
Were you as aware and honest with yourself about your current situation before the DMT?
Have you spoken with you mother about the guilt you hold?
If either of these was a no than there is something to be learned.
I do believe that if you believe in them (no judgement) than there may be a self fulfilling prophecy.
Dmt like most psycs will mirror back to you the deep seeded positives and negatives in your life.
If you didnt understand the message that the dmt experience was shown you than itll be for naught.
Perhaps the nastiness that you had during the experience is but a reflection of the difficulties youre going through in life.
Were you as aware and honest with yourself about your current situation before the DMT?
Have you spoken with you mother about the guilt you hold?
If either of these was a no than there is something to be learned.
Fidelsbeard
The Life You Ordered has Arrived
Was it the end of your relationship with your partner which triggered your relapse? I had a long heroin addiction too and my partner falling pregnant was the catalyst for change. I spent 14 years as a stay at home dad while my partner worked. We are seperated now and I live with my two daughters. The most important relationship I have is with my children...I cannot imagine losing that, do you think you could rebuild yours? Don't be waylaid by tarot, the real world is difficult enough to navigate without looking to blame outside influences which aren't real. Sterkte! 
Asher7
Professional Tracker
Wise words, a hard revelation for many to receive.null24 said:
I don’t know if tarot cards are real, doubt it, but even if they are, with what possibility they’re offering up I’d put in everything I had to prove it wrong come hell or highwater. The tarot card of life says most things won’t make it, and the few that do have a few things in common, like a will made of granite with a healthy sprinkling of stubborness. Consider the tarot cards as a real possibility, perhaps they show you what could happen and you had the bad trip version where it showed you what could happen if you nod through this part of your life. I’d prove those tarot cards to be the foolishness they are.
fathomlessness
Rising Star
I'd like to add that if a woman could do that kind of thing to you then she was definitely not good for you from the start. The sooner you can clean yourself up, put your head on your shoulders the sooner you can go out there and find someone far better/loyal/loving. That in itself can be a motive to change among all the others people have said in this thread.
"grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can". There's only so much feeling sorry for yourself can do (even though the grieving process is unconscious). When it starts to hurt less then that is the time in which its possible to see the benefit of the truth of the situation and rise above it. Just be glad someone like that isn't in your life anymore (as hard as that is to hear).
"grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can". There's only so much feeling sorry for yourself can do (even though the grieving process is unconscious). When it starts to hurt less then that is the time in which its possible to see the benefit of the truth of the situation and rise above it. Just be glad someone like that isn't in your life anymore (as hard as that is to hear).