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DMT fumerate doses

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I haven't tried this but my understanding, which may well be wrong, is that its highly variable from one person to the next and the type of harmala alkaloid used also effects the outcome.
 
Yea, it depends person to person and the with admin technique. With fasting and controlled admin, some can have breakthroughs at very low doses.
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I can't say with much conviction what a heavy dose it for me, as I am not yet prepared for a 4 hour residency in hyperspace. 55mg fumarate puts me at a maximum sub-breakthrough level. I know a full blown breakthrough dose isn't too much higher. Over 200mg just seems overkill.

It has been mentioned that aya dosages contain around 50mg, so it really all comes down to technique.
 
When I took 200mg of rue extract together with 100mg DMT-Fumarate both mixed in the same glass of orange juice it gave me a way too heavy journey. Much too much, it was really overwhelming! So because of that I voted 75-100mg as too much.

For my next journey I will take 200mg THH-Hcl together with 50mg DMT-Fumarate.


Kind regards,

The Traveler
 
My typical starter dose was 50mg DMT jungle fumerate. This concerns working with rue, as with THH or vine I can quite happily go up to 80mg and still not feel to challenged or maybe more correctly guided is a better term.

I'll be doing a rue extraction soon where I'll be seperating the harmine and harmaline, mainly to get rid of the cloudy fog the excess of harmaline brings and this is going to be my main tool for oral DMT for the sake of oral DMT.

My vine work for the near future will be just that. Vine work :)
 
the other night me and my girlfriend took 170 mg doses in capsules, it was a perfect dose for us that night , i didn't mix the harmalas and the dmt up though so the harmalas were on one side of the capsule and the dmt on the other, i poked a hole in each end of the capsule.

this has been the first time Ive tryed dmt fumerate and i was very pleased with it.

ive had really strong trips on 80 mg of dmt freebase taken orally and other times it has been weak at that dose.

thanks for the votes guys. with more votes we will all be able to better gauge whats going to happen to somone when we give them a dose .

much love and respect.
 
RayOfLight said:
thanks for the votes guys. with more votes we will all be able to better gauge whats going to happen to somone when we give them a dose .
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From what I can see, the poll shows that you won't be able to gauge what's going to happen to someone when you give them a dose :D. There's a huge gap between what's considered strong doses, and the number of people on either end of the spectrum are nearly identical (6:4, which at the moment could very well have been 5:5 or 4:6).

Assuming the difference is from bioavailability, I'm wondering what the cause could be?
 
I am happy I stumbled across this.

Gives a good starting point for one to consider how much is too much for a DMT fumerate dose.

Thanks to those who created this so long ago! :)
 
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